Windows update installing updates over riding my settings

I had the update setting on automatic to be done at 8pm and my time was being
overridden and I was also receiving updates that had no bearing on my system
(updates for XPSP2! not Vista) So I changed it to download but don't install
until I checked them. I was finding updates that were being installed anyway
and sometimes twice back to back. ie - that fateful Tues in March with KB
938371 that took away all my USB drives. Now I have changed it to just
notify me of updates and I will decide which ones to install and the stupid
updates are being updated and installed anyway.
Is anyone else having this problem? I am sick of Microsoft deciding which
updates I need. I know a lot of them were in preparation for SP1 but I never
did get that as an update. Downloaded and installed myself with the help
from Microsoft and I had no problem. Sorry - BTP I don't know any thing else
to do but cut them off completely which is certainly enticing at this point.
Would appreciate any help.
Thanks, Jody

Is Windows Live OneCare installed ? If not, read on ...

Please provide me a copy of the WindowsUpdate.log located in the WINDOWS
directory [folder], Jody. Compress it into a .zip file before sending.
Send it to mowgreenAT@gmaildotcom ( you can figure out the real email
addy, right? <w> )
I'll send it along to the Update Team and, hopefully, we'll find out why
the updating options are not honoring your settings.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Jody wrote:

> I had the update setting on automatic to be done at 8pm and my time was being
> overridden and I was also receiving updates that had no bearing on my system
> (updates for XPSP2! not Vista) So I changed it to download but don't install
> until I checked them. I was finding updates that were being installed anyway
> and sometimes twice back to back. ie - that fateful Tues in March with KB
> 938371 that took away all my USB drives. Now I have changed it to just
> notify me of updates and I will decide which ones to install and the stupid
> updates are being updated and installed anyway.
> Is anyone else having this problem? I am sick of Microsoft deciding which
> updates I need. I know a lot of them were in preparation for SP1 but I never
> did get that as an update. Downloaded and installed myself with the help
> from Microsoft and I had no problem. Sorry - BTP I don't know any thing else
> to do but cut them off completely which is certainly enticing at this point.
> Would appreciate any help.
> Thanks, Jody

Your post is not clear: Are you currently running Vista or Vista SP1?

What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What
anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall
(if any)?

One or more options/settings in an ever-growing number of third-party
applications may be disallowing the change(s) from "sticking". These include
but are not limited to Ad-aware's Ad-Watch, Spybot Tea Timer,
SpywareBlaster, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, AVG Anti-Spyware,
Norton AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware, NOD32, and Zone Alarm
(Free, Pro, & Security Suite).
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Jody wrote:
> I had the update setting on automatic to be done at 8pm and my time was
> being overridden and I was also receiving updates that had no bearing on
> my
> system (updates for XPSP2! not Vista) So I changed it to download but
> don't
> install until I checked them. I was finding updates that were being
> installed anyway and sometimes twice back to back. ie - that fateful Tues
> in March with KB 938371 that took away all my USB drives. Now I have
> changed it to just notify me of updates and I will decide which ones to
> install and the stupid updates are being updated and installed anyway.
> Is anyone else having this problem? I am sick of Microsoft deciding which
> updates I need. I know a lot of them were in preparation for SP1 but I
> never
> did get that as an update. Downloaded and installed myself with the help
> from Microsoft and I had no problem. Sorry - BTP I don't know any thing
> else to do but cut them off completely which is certainly enticing at this
> point. Would appreciate any help.
> Thanks, Jody

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Your post is not clear: Are you currently running Vista or Vista SP1?
>
> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What
> anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall
> (if any)?
>
> One or more options/settings in an ever-growing number of third-party
> applications may be disallowing the change(s) from "sticking". These include
> but are not limited to Ad-aware's Ad-Watch, Spybot Tea Timer,
> SpywareBlaster, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, AVG Anti-Spyware,
> Norton AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware, NOD32, and Zone Alarm
> (Free, Pro, & Security Suite).
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Jody wrote:
> > I had the update setting on automatic to be done at 8pm and my time was
> > being overridden and I was also receiving updates that had no bearing on
> > my
> > system (updates for XPSP2! not Vista) So I changed it to download but
> > don't
> > install until I checked them. I was finding updates that were being
> > installed anyway and sometimes twice back to back. ie - that fateful Tues
> > in March with KB 938371 that took away all my USB drives. Now I have
> > changed it to just notify me of updates and I will decide which ones to
> > install and the stupid updates are being updated and installed anyway.
> > Is anyone else having this problem? I am sick of Microsoft deciding which
> > updates I need. I know a lot of them were in preparation for SP1 but I
> > never
> > did get that as an update. Downloaded and installed myself with the help
> > from Microsoft and I had no problem. Sorry - BTP I don't know any thing
> > else to do but cut them off completely which is certainly enticing at this
> > point. Would appreciate any help.
> > Thanks, Jody
>
> Sorry, looking at this post I certainly left out info, but thank you for pointing them out to me. I honestly had not thought of them.
Vista Home SP1, Avast anti-virus, spysweeper, spyware blaster, windows
firewall, spybot without TeaTimer and that is it.
I hope that helps.
Jody

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Your post is not clear: Are you currently running Vista or Vista SP1?
>
> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What
> anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall
> (if any)?
>
> One or more options/settings in an ever-growing number of third-party
> applications may be disallowing the change(s) from "sticking". These include
> but are not limited to Ad-aware's Ad-Watch, Spybot Tea Timer,
> SpywareBlaster, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, AVG Anti-Spyware,
> Norton AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware, NOD32, and Zone Alarm
> (Free, Pro, & Security Suite).
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Jody wrote:
> > I had the update setting on automatic to be done at 8pm and my time was
> > being overridden and I was also receiving updates that had no bearing on
> > my
> > system (updates for XPSP2! not Vista) So I changed it to download but
> > don't
> > install until I checked them. I was finding updates that were being
> > installed anyway and sometimes twice back to back. ie - that fateful Tues
> > in March with KB 938371 that took away all my USB drives. Now I have
> > changed it to just notify me of updates and I will decide which ones to
> > install and the stupid updates are being updated and installed anyway.
> > Is anyone else having this problem? I am sick of Microsoft deciding which
> > updates I need. I know a lot of them were in preparation for SP1 but I
> > never
> > did get that as an update. Downloaded and installed myself with the help
> > from Microsoft and I had no problem. Sorry - BTP I don't know any thing
> > else to do but cut them off completely which is certainly enticing at this
> > point. Would appreciate any help.
> > Thanks, Jody
>
>

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Your post is not clear: Are you currently running Vista or Vista SP1?
>
> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What
> anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall
> (if any)?
>
> One or more options/settings in an ever-growing number of third-party
> applications may be disallowing the change(s) from "sticking". These include
> but are not limited to Ad-aware's Ad-Watch, Spybot Tea Timer,
> SpywareBlaster, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, AVG Anti-Spyware,
> Norton AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware, NOD32, and Zone Alarm
> (Free, Pro, & Security Suite).
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
Well I am still learning this forum but I have never had a reply disappear
before, so this may be a duplicate. I have not seen anything about a time
limit to post your reply - is there one? I read about my e-mail address and
using a different one. Glad I found that 'cuz I didn't quite understand the
first reply :]
Looking at my post I realized I had left a lot of info out. Thank you for
pointing it out to me, but I honestly had not thought of it.
I run Vista Home, SP1, Avast anti-virus,SpySweeper,Spybot,SpywareBlaster,
windows firewall and that's it.
Thanks, Jody


>
> Jody wrote:
> > I had the update setting on automatic to be done at 8pm and my time was
> > being overridden and I was also receiving updates that had no bearing on
> > my
> > system (updates for XPSP2! not Vista) So I changed it to download but
> > don't
> > install until I checked them. I was finding updates that were being
> > installed anyway and sometimes twice back to back. ie - that fateful Tues
> > in March with KB 938371 that took away all my USB drives. Now I have
> > changed it to just notify me of updates and I will decide which ones to
> > install and the stupid updates are being updated and installed anyway.
> > Is anyone else having this problem? I am sick of Microsoft deciding which
> > updates I need. I know a lot of them were in preparation for SP1 but I
> > never
> > did get that as an update. Downloaded and installed myself with the help
> > from Microsoft and I had no problem. Sorry - BTP I don't know any thing
> > else to do but cut them off completely which is certainly enticing at this
> > point. Would appreciate any help.
> > Thanks, Jody
>
>

Jody wrote:
>>> I had the update setting on automatic to be done at 8pm and my time was
>>> being overridden and I was also receiving updates that had no bearing on
>>> my system (updates for XPSP2! not Vista) So I changed it to download but
>>> don't install until I checked them. I was finding updates that were
>>> being
>>> installed anyway and sometimes twice back to back. ie - that fateful
>>> Tues
>>> in March with KB 938371 that took away all my USB drives. Now I have
>>> changed it to just notify me of updates and I will decide which ones to
>>> install and the stupid updates are being updated and installed anyway.
>>> Is anyone else having this problem? I am sick of Microsoft deciding
>>> which
>>> updates I need. I know a lot of them were in preparation for SP1 but I
>>> never
>>> did get that as an update. Downloaded and installed myself with the
>>> help
>>> from Microsoft and I had no problem. Sorry - BTP I don't know any thing
>>> else to do but cut them off completely which is certainly enticing at
>>> this
>>> point. Would appreciate any help.
>>>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> Your post is not clear: Are you currently running Vista or Vista SP1?
>>
>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What
>> anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party
>> firewall
>> (if any)?
>>
>> One or more options/settings in an ever-growing number of third-party
>> applications may be disallowing the change(s) from "sticking". These
>> include
>> but are not limited to Ad-aware's Ad-Watch, Spybot Tea Timer,
>> SpywareBlaster, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, AVG Anti-Spyware,
>> Norton AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware, NOD32, and Zone
>> Alarm (Free, Pro, & Security Suite).
>>
> Sorry, looking at this post I certainly left out info, but thank you for
> pointing them out to me. I honestly had not thought of them.
>
> Vista Home SP1, Avast anti-virus, spysweeper, spyware blaster, windows
> firewall, spybot without TeaTimer and that is it.

And is Automatic Updates still set to "Notify Only" or has it reverted back
to the earlier setting?

In any event, if you found or find that the setting had reverted back to an
earlier setting, chances are that Spysweeper's real-time protection was the
responsible party. However...

If you'd been using Windows Update as your default update source and then
switched it to Microsoft Update (offers updates for Windows, Office, and
Windows Live), making that switch will reset Automatic Updates back to the
"Automatic" setting.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Jody wrote:
> >>> I had the update setting on automatic to be done at 8pm and my time was
> >>> being overridden and I was also receiving updates that had no bearing on
> >>> my system (updates for XPSP2! not Vista) So I changed it to download but
> >>> don't install until I checked them. I was finding updates that were
> >>> being
> >>> installed anyway and sometimes twice back to back. ie - that fateful
> >>> Tues
> >>> in March with KB 938371 that took away all my USB drives. Now I have
> >>> changed it to just notify me of updates and I will decide which ones to
> >>> install and the stupid updates are being updated and installed anyway.
> >>> Is anyone else having this problem? I am sick of Microsoft deciding
> >>> which
> >>> updates I need. I know a lot of them were in preparation for SP1 but I
> >>> never
> >>> did get that as an update. Downloaded and installed myself with the
> >>> help
> >>> from Microsoft and I had no problem. Sorry - BTP I don't know any thing
> >>> else to do but cut them off completely which is certainly enticing at
> >>> this
> >>> point. Would appreciate any help.
> >>>
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >> Your post is not clear: Are you currently running Vista or Vista SP1?
> >>
> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What
> >> anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party
> >> firewall
> >> (if any)?
> >>
> >> One or more options/settings in an ever-growing number of third-party
> >> applications may be disallowing the change(s) from "sticking". These
> >> include
> >> but are not limited to Ad-aware's Ad-Watch, Spybot Tea Timer,
> >> SpywareBlaster, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, AVG Anti-Spyware,
> >> Norton AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware, NOD32, and Zone
> >> Alarm (Free, Pro, & Security Suite).
> >>
> > Sorry, looking at this post I certainly left out info, but thank you for
> > pointing them out to me. I honestly had not thought of them.
> >
> > Vista Home SP1, Avast anti-virus, spysweeper, spyware blaster, windows
> > firewall, spybot without TeaTimer and that is it.
>
> And is Automatic Updates still set to "Notify Only" or has it reverted back
> to the earlier setting?
>
> In any event, if you found or find that the setting had reverted back to an
> earlier setting, chances are that Spysweeper's real-time protection was the
> responsible party. However...
>
> If you'd been using Windows Update as your default update source and then
> switched it to Microsoft Update (offers updates for Windows, Office, and
> Windows Live), making that switch will reset Automatic Updates back to the
> "Automatic" setting.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> I am using Windows Update and the setting is still on Notify of updates but let me choose whether to download and install. But yesterday an update was automatically installed and the setting was to download and install only if I choose. I had checked it earlier that day. So I assume it is SpySweeper, so how do I fix it? I don't want it on Automatic,which it isn't anyway. What a mess. Now what?
Thank you.
Jody (At least I have found out that it takes a long, long time for my
replies to show up :{

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> Is Windows Live OneCare installed ? If not, read on ...
>
> Please provide me a copy of the WindowsUpdate.log located in the WINDOWS
> directory [folder], Jody. Compress it into a .zip file before sending.
> Send it to mowgreenAT@gmaildotcom ( you can figure out the real email
> addy, right? <w> )
> I'll send it along to the Update Team and, hopefully, we'll find out why
> the updating options are not honoring your settings.
>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
>
I am sorry I haven't answered you but since I thought I kept losing replies,
I certainly was not going to lose yours,
No I do not have Live Care installed. I am going to try to send log, but I
am tired so I will do it tomorrow OK?
Thanks a bunce
Jody
>

Jody wrote:
>>>>> I had the update setting on automatic to be done at 8pm and my time
>>>>> was
>>>>> being overridden and I was also receiving updates that had no bearing
>>>>> on
>>>>> my system (updates for XPSP2! not Vista) So I changed it to download
>>>>> but
>>>>> don't install until I checked them. I was finding updates that were
>>>>> being
>>>>> installed anyway and sometimes twice back to back. ie - that fateful
>>>>> Tues
>>>>> in March with KB 938371 that took away all my USB drives. Now I have
>>>>> changed it to just notify me of updates and I will decide which ones
>>>>> to
>>>>> install and the stupid updates are being updated and installed anyway.
>>>>> Is anyone else having this problem? I am sick of Microsoft deciding
>>>>> which
>>>>> updates I need. I know a lot of them were in preparation for SP1 but I
>>>>> never
>>>>> did get that as an update. Downloaded and installed myself with the
>>>>> help
>>>>> from Microsoft and I had no problem. Sorry - BTP I don't know any
>>>>> thing
>>>>> else to do but cut them off completely which is certainly enticing at
>>>>> this
>>>>> point. Would appreciate any help.
>>>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>> Your post is not clear: Are you currently running Vista or Vista SP1?
>>>>
>>>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What
>>>> anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party
>>>> firewall
>>>> (if any)?
>>>>
>>>> One or more options/settings in an ever-growing number of third-party
>>>> applications may be disallowing the change(s) from "sticking". These
>>>> include
>>>> but are not limited to Ad-aware's Ad-Watch, Spybot Tea Timer,
>>>> SpywareBlaster, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, AVG
>>>> Anti-Spyware,
>>>> Norton AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware, NOD32, and Zone
>>>> Alarm (Free, Pro, & Security Suite).
>>>>
>>> Sorry, looking at this post I certainly left out info, but thank you for
>>> pointing them out to me. I honestly had not thought of them.
>>>
>>> Vista Home SP1, Avast anti-virus, spysweeper, spyware blaster, windows
>>> firewall, spybot without TeaTimer and that is it.
>>
>> And is Automatic Updates still set to "Notify Only" or has it reverted
>> back
>> to the earlier setting?
>>
>> In any event, if you found or find that the setting had reverted back to
>> an
>> earlier setting, chances are that Spysweeper's real-time protection was
>> the
>> responsible party. However...
>>
>> If you'd been using Windows Update as your default update source and then
>> switched it to Microsoft Update (offers updates for Windows, Office, and
>> Windows Live), making that switch will reset Automatic Updates back to
>> the
>> "Automatic" setting.
>>
> I am using Windows Update and the setting is still on Notify of updates
> but let me choose whether to download and install. But yesterday an
> update was automatically installed and the setting was to download and
> install only if I choose. I had checked it earlier that day. So I assume
> it is SpySweeper, so how do I fix it? I don't want it on Automatic,which
> it isn't anyway. What a mess. Now what?

Can you identify the update that was automatically installed yesterday,
Jody?

Might it have been the Windows Update "infrastructure" update I referenced
in a post in this same newsgroup on 03 July? =>
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...50d15661?hl=en
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/