Windows Update not automatic

I seem unable to get my PC to download and install MS updates
automatically. My system is set to download and install automatically,
all the required Services are showing automatic and are running.
Windows Defender is updated automatically. Each month I check manually
in Contgrol Panel/Windows Updates and I see that there are updates to
download and install. I am having to manually carry out this action.
They are all then downloaded and installed correctly. Any help would be
appreciated please.

I have Windows Vista Home Premium, 2GB RAM, Avast AntiVirus and use
Windows Firewall with Vista Firewall Control.


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Kathandbrian

"Kathandbrian" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> I seem unable to get my PC to download and install MS updates
> automatically. My system is set to download and install automatically,
> all the required Services are showing automatic and are running.
> Windows Defender is updated automatically. Each month I check manually
> in Contgrol Panel/Windows Updates and I see that there are updates to
> download and install. I am having to manually carry out this action.
> They are all then downloaded and installed correctly. Any help would be
> appreciated please.
>
> I have Windows Vista Home Premium, 2GB RAM, Avast AntiVirus and use
> Windows Firewall with Vista Firewall Control.
>
>
> --
> Kathandbrian


Setting "Automatic Updates" to be fully automatic is a BAD, BAD, BAD
idea!!!!
Set them this way:
Select the radio button beside "Download updates but let me choose whether
to install them."
That way, if an update will break something on your machine, it will not be
installed without your intervention.
IF there are updates, the Windows Update icon will show up in your
Notification Area (System Tray) and allow you to CHOOSE the updates you
actually want, and reject the ones you don't want.

Believe me, you DON'T want Windows Update automatically installing every
update which is supposedly for your machine, especially hardware updates,
which CAN EASILY break your System.

Keep current in these newsgroups if one shows up which breaks systems.
The updates aren't coming on your schedule, but Microsoft's schedule. JUST
WAIT a little longer, and they will be delivered automatically.

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Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the original thread and Newsgroup
=====================================

Donald McDaniel wrote:
> "Kathandbrian" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> I seem unable to get my PC to download and install MS updates
>> automatically. My system is set to download and install automatically,
>> all the required Services are showing automatic and are running.
>> Windows Defender is updated automatically. Each month I check manually
>> in Contgrol Panel/Windows Updates and I see that there are updates to
>> download and install. I am having to manually carry out this action.
>> They are all then downloaded and installed correctly. Any help would be
>> appreciated please.
>>
>> I have Windows Vista Home Premium, 2GB RAM, Avast AntiVirus and use
>> Windows Firewall with Vista Firewall Control.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kathandbrian
>
>
> Setting "Automatic Updates" to be fully automatic is a BAD, BAD, BAD
> idea!!!!
> Set them this way:
> Select the radio button beside "Download updates but let me choose
> whether to install them."
> That way, if an update will break something on your machine, it will not
> be installed without your intervention.
The setting may not do what it is intended in terms of user intervention
per an upcoming ms update. Time will tell if the following is correct.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2413&tag=nl.e539

August 14th, 2008
Microsoft to push another Windows Update to users … whether you want it
or not.

Who will get this update automatically?
It depends on your Windows Update settings. Under Windows Vista there
are four possible settings for Windows Update:
* Install updates automatically (recommended)
* Download updates but let me choose whether to install them
* Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and
install them
* Never check for updates (not recommended)

This update to the Windows Update agent will be updated automatically on
both Windows Vista and Windows XP systems unless Windows Update has been
switched off. That is, set to Never check for updates (not recommended)
under Vista or Turn off Automatic Updates under XP. All tghe other
settings will be taken by Microsoft has an indication that you want
these updates to the Windows Update mechanism to come in and be installed.

> IF there are updates, the Windows Update icon will show up in your
> Notification Area (System Tray) and allow you to CHOOSE the updates you
> actually want, and reject the ones you don't want.
>
> Believe me, you DON'T want Windows Update automatically installing every
> update which is supposedly for your machine, especially hardware
> updates, which CAN EASILY break your System.
>
> Keep current in these newsgroups if one shows up which breaks systems.
> The updates aren't coming on your schedule, but Microsoft's schedule.
> JUST WAIT a little longer, and they will be delivered automatically.
>


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norm

"Donald McDaniel" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> "Kathandbrian" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> I seem unable to get my PC to download and install MS updates
>> automatically. My system is set to download and install automatically,
>> all the required Services are showing automatic and are running.
>> Windows Defender is updated automatically. Each month I check manually
>> in Contgrol Panel/Windows Updates and I see that there are updates to
>> download and install. I am having to manually carry out this action.
>> They are all then downloaded and installed correctly. Any help would be
>> appreciated please.
>>
>> I have Windows Vista Home Premium, 2GB RAM, Avast AntiVirus and use
>> Windows Firewall with Vista Firewall Control.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kathandbrian
>
>
> Setting "Automatic Updates" to be fully automatic is a BAD, BAD, BAD
> idea!!!!
> Set them this way:
> Select the radio button beside "Download updates but let me choose whether
> to install them."
> That way, if an update will break something on your machine, it will not
> be installed without your intervention.
> IF there are updates, the Windows Update icon will show up in your
> Notification Area (System Tray) and allow you to CHOOSE the updates you
> actually want, and reject the ones you don't want.
>
> Believe me, you DON'T want Windows Update automatically installing every
> update which is supposedly for your machine, especially hardware updates,
> which CAN EASILY break your System.
>
> Keep current in these newsgroups if one shows up which breaks systems.
> The updates aren't coming on your schedule, but Microsoft's schedule.
> JUST WAIT a little longer, and they will be delivered automatically.
>
> --
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please reply to the original thread and Newsgroup
> =====================================

I've always wondered about this "don't do it" approach. Always allowed the
automatic updates through the entire time I had XP, and never had a problem.
Now allow them under Vista; same thing. Perhaps if a person tweaks their
machine, it's a bad idea, but for those of us who are running 'standard'
equipment, the automatic approach doesn't seem to create problems. (Not a
neophyte; got my first computer in 83; took my first computer lessons in
72.)
LesleyO

norm wrote:
> Donald McDaniel wrote:
>> "Kathandbrian" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>
>>> I seem unable to get my PC to download and install MS updates
>>> automatically. My system is set to download and install automatically,
>>> all the required Services are showing automatic and are running.
>>> Windows Defender is updated automatically. Each month I check manually
>>> in Contgrol Panel/Windows Updates and I see that there are updates to
>>> download and install. I am having to manually carry out this action.
>>> They are all then downloaded and installed correctly. Any help would be
>>> appreciated please.
>>>
>>> I have Windows Vista Home Premium, 2GB RAM, Avast AntiVirus and use
>>> Windows Firewall with Vista Firewall Control.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kathandbrian
>>
>>
>> Setting "Automatic Updates" to be fully automatic is a BAD, BAD, BAD
>> idea!!!!
>> Set them this way:
>> Select the radio button beside "Download updates but let me choose
>> whether to install them."
>> That way, if an update will break something on your machine, it will
>> not be installed without your intervention.
> The setting may not do what it is intended in terms of user intervention
> per an upcoming ms update. Time will tell if the following is correct.
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2413&tag=nl.e539
>
> August 14th, 2008
> Microsoft to push another Windows Update to users … whether you want it
> or not.
>
> Who will get this update automatically?
> It depends on your Windows Update settings. Under Windows Vista there
> are four possible settings for Windows Update:
> * Install updates automatically (recommended)
> * Download updates but let me choose whether to install them
> * Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and
> install them
> * Never check for updates (not recommended)
>
> This update to the Windows Update agent will be updated automatically on
> both Windows Vista and Windows XP systems unless Windows Update has been
> switched off. That is, set to Never check for updates (not recommended)
> under Vista or Turn off Automatic Updates under XP. All tghe other
> settings will be taken by Microsoft has an indication that you want
> these updates to the Windows Update mechanism to come in and be installed.
>
>> IF there are updates, the Windows Update icon will show up in your
>> Notification Area (System Tray) and allow you to CHOOSE the updates
>> you actually want, and reject the ones you don't want.
>>
>> Believe me, you DON'T want Windows Update automatically installing
>> every update which is supposedly for your machine, especially hardware
>> updates, which CAN EASILY break your System.
>>
>> Keep current in these newsgroups if one shows up which breaks systems.
>> The updates aren't coming on your schedule, but Microsoft's schedule.
>> JUST WAIT a little longer, and they will be delivered automatically.
>>
>
>

That's Exactly Why Microsoft Should Be Slapped With Another Anti-Trust
Lawsuit From The U.S.D.O.J. (Hopefully Barack Hussain O'Bama Will Add
That 2 His Presidential Nomination Acceptance Speech At The Convention
In Denver Later This Month), Also Just FYI.

Thanks for the advice guys. I am going to leave the automatic setting
until any September updates and then wait and see how long afterwards I
have to wait before it possibly activates the automatic way. If that
does not work I will take up your suggestions of setting it to download
and let me decide what to install.


--
Kathandbrian

Donald McDaniel wrote:
> "Kathandbrian" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> I seem unable to get my PC to download and install MS updates
>> automatically. My system is set to download and install automatically,
>> all the required Services are showing automatic and are running.
>> Windows Defender is updated automatically. Each month I check manually
>> in Contgrol Panel/Windows Updates and I see that there are updates to
>> download and install. I am having to manually carry out this action.
>> They are all then downloaded and installed correctly. Any help would be
>> appreciated please.
>>
>> I have Windows Vista Home Premium, 2GB RAM, Avast AntiVirus and use
>> Windows Firewall with Vista Firewall Control.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kathandbrian
>
>
> Setting "Automatic Updates" to be fully automatic is a BAD, BAD, BAD
> idea!!!!
> Set them this way:
> Select the radio button beside "Download updates but let me choose
> whether to install them."
> That way, if an update will break something on your machine, it will not
> be installed without your intervention.
> IF there are updates, the Windows Update icon will show up in your
> Notification Area (System Tray) and allow you to CHOOSE the updates you
> actually want, and reject the ones you don't want.
>
> Believe me, you DON'T want Windows Update automatically installing every
> update which is supposedly for your machine, especially hardware
> updates, which CAN EASILY break your System.
>
> Keep current in these newsgroups if one shows up which breaks systems.
> The updates aren't coming on your schedule, but Microsoft's schedule.
> JUST WAIT a little longer, and they will be delivered automatically.
>

But even under this setting, MS will download and install anything they
want on your machine with or without your permission:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;946928
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...ws-update.aspx

And remember the stealth updates from a year ago?!
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=779

--
"...every non-modular OS SUCKS...Speaking for myself only."
- zachd [MSFT]

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101

<> wrote in message
news:...
> norm wrote:
>> Donald McDaniel wrote:
>>> "Kathandbrian" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>>
>>>> I seem unable to get my PC to download and install MS updates
>>>> automatically. My system is set to download and install automatically,
>>>> all the required Services are showing automatic and are running.
>>>> Windows Defender is updated automatically. Each month I check manually
>>>> in Contgrol Panel/Windows Updates and I see that there are updates to
>>>> download and install. I am having to manually carry out this action.
>>>> They are all then downloaded and installed correctly. Any help would
>>>> be
>>>> appreciated please.
>>>>
>>>> I have Windows Vista Home Premium, 2GB RAM, Avast AntiVirus and use
>>>> Windows Firewall with Vista Firewall Control.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kathandbrian
>>>
>>>
>>> Setting "Automatic Updates" to be fully automatic is a BAD, BAD, BAD
>>> idea!!!!
>>> Set them this way:
>>> Select the radio button beside "Download updates but let me choose
>>> whether to install them."
>>> That way, if an update will break something on your machine, it will not
>>> be installed without your intervention.
>> The setting may not do what it is intended in terms of user intervention
>> per an upcoming ms update. Time will tell if the following is correct.
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2413&tag=nl.e539
>>
>> August 14th, 2008
>> Microsoft to push another Windows Update to users … whether you want it
>> or not.
>>
>> Who will get this update automatically?
>> It depends on your Windows Update settings. Under Windows Vista there are
>> four possible settings for Windows Update:
>> * Install updates automatically (recommended)
>> * Download updates but let me choose whether to install them
>> * Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install
>> them
>> * Never check for updates (not recommended)
>>
>> This update to the Windows Update agent will be updated automatically on
>> both Windows Vista and Windows XP systems unless Windows Update has been
>> switched off. That is, set to Never check for updates (not recommended)
>> under Vista or Turn off Automatic Updates under XP. All tghe other
>> settings will be taken by Microsoft has an indication that you want these
>> updates to the Windows Update mechanism to come in and be installed.
>>
>>> IF there are updates, the Windows Update icon will show up in your
>>> Notification Area (System Tray) and allow you to CHOOSE the updates you
>>> actually want, and reject the ones you don't want.
>>>
>>> Believe me, you DON'T want Windows Update automatically installing every
>>> update which is supposedly for your machine, especially hardware
>>> updates, which CAN EASILY break your System.
>>>
>>> Keep current in these newsgroups if one shows up which breaks systems.
>>> The updates aren't coming on your schedule, but Microsoft's schedule.
>>> JUST WAIT a little longer, and they will be delivered automatically.
>>>
>>
>>
>
> That's Exactly Why Microsoft Should Be Slapped With Another Anti-Trust
> Lawsuit From The U.S.D.O.J. (Hopefully Barack Hussain O'Bama Will Add That
> 2 His Presidential Nomination Acceptance Speech At The Convention In
> Denver Later This Month), Also Just FYI.

Why don't you take a camel and head up to Redmond and let them know what
they are doing wrong.

Then shove your head up your ass

Okay, the September updates were all downloaded and installe
automatically. I was asked to download a Hotfix, KB942288 by anothe
Forum previously. This appears to have worked for me

Many thanks for your efforts

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Kathandbrian