Windows Update not easy, please fix

This is just too hard now to update my Windows XP with Windows Update. It
isn't working. 10 critical downloads were all uninstalled. It's time
consuming and hard to figure out what to try next. I have turned off my
antivirus program and security shield to try to do this. I have made sure
that popups weren't a problem as much as I can. I have been unsuccessful
today doing this. All the links are confusing and not easy to do. This needs
to be fixed for all the people trying to maintain their computers in the best
way. I have 2 computers and have only tried to update one at this point. Mine
is a Gateway and the other is a Dell. Both are 2.5 and 1 year old
respectively. Both have valid Windows XP programs.

It needs to be fixed.

Oceana Rose

Listed below are my messages that I wrote while reading in the newsgroup
looking for information in order to fix this myself.

Written on 6-16-06,

I tried installing Windows Update on my Windows XP SP2 and it fails
everytime. I tried using Update to install Critical Downloads and it failed
on all 10 downloads. At this point I have spent enough time trying. I turned
off my antivirus and security shields prior to downloads. I quit for now.
This is too time consuming.

In another post same day:

I'm having the same problem. I have a 2+ Year old Gateway. I know my disk is
valid. Error Code: 0x80200010. 10 critical downloads failed twice. I turned
off my antivirus and security shield and have Popups "okay". Now what?

Response to Robin Walker (MVP) on 6-16-06, same day:
Robin Walker asked about my Antivirus software.

No, I am using Freedom antivirus software by Zero Knowledge supplied with
Adelphia Internet Service. I had turned off the antivirus software before
trying to update.

Response also on 6-16-06:

This is just too hard now to update my Windows XP with Windows Update. It
isn't working. 10 critical downloads were all uninstalled. It's time
consuming and hard to figure out what to try next. I have turned off my
antivirus program and security shield to try to do this. I have made sure
that popups weren't a problem as much as I can. I have been unsuccessful
today doing this. All the links are confusing and not easy to do. This needs
to be fixed for all the people trying to maintain their computers in the best
way. I have 2 computers and have only tried to update one at this point. Mine
is a Gateway and the other is a Dell. Both are 2.5 and 1 year old
respectively. Both have valid Windows XP programs.

Now, Mr. Paton: In the first message I mentioned I has Windows XP SP2. I
also reported only one error message on the messages I posted starting
6-16-06. That error message was 0x80200010 not a "number of them". My
firewall is Freedom software supplied by Adelphia.net, my ISP. I had turned
off my antivirus and firewall prior to attempting to download these progams.
I have no other antivirus software installed on my computer.

The information you so generously supplied will be looked into and it looks
like it's in such detail I will just work on it shortly. However, I did not
think that I barged into any conversations. I was reading and contributing
(talking on subject). I did not know there was a specific protocol on this
bulletinboard/newsgroup. I've used many bulletinboard/newsgroups for years,
since this whole internet was a baby. It has evolved so much it's fun to
remember the "old times". I actually thought it was better to try to converse
within already framed conversations rather than post yet another topic.
However, here on this newsgroup I have learned a valuable lesson. I won't
barge in no matter what, I won't post, I'll j ust wait until the answer comes
up, and I will try to figure out what data you all need before I do post
should it become necessary. Had I known all the commands you gave me and
about the BG_E_NETWORK_DISCONNECTED thing,

regsvr32.exe wuaueng.dll
regsvr32.exe wuapi.dll
regsvr32.exe wups.dll
regsvr32.exe wucltui.dll
regsvr32.exe atl.dll
regsvr32.exe wintrust.dll

and all the other things you mentioned here in this message I guess I
wouldn't have needed help. I'm so sorry to have inconvenienced people here
but I needed answers.

I am 61 years old, a grandmother and I think I'm doing pretty good with
computers. I have had a design service for lettering Race Cars and 16 wheel
trucks, I've worked with designing for many things, I work with Photography,
I just try to learn as much as I can to take care of my computer since it's
my road to creating things.
Thank you for your help,
Marion known here and many other places as Oceana Rose

"Noel Paton" wrote:

> You seem to have posted rather a lot of threads (which would not endear you
> to many regulars!) recently?
>
> Your thread of 16th June (Update fails) was not very informative, either...
> which is probably why you got no response (apart from the fact that you
> tacked it onto someone else's thread - never a good idea!)
>
> Your thread of 16th June (0x80070643 for Microsoft .NET framework 1.1
> service pack 1)
> was totally uninformative also!
>
> Again - on 17th June - you barged into another thread (Windows Genuine
> Advantage Validation Tool (KB892130) FAILED IN) - with no data.
>
> and today you come in here with no real data - and expect a solution.......
>
> OK - I'll try, but this is working from a VERY poor data base!!
>
> 1) SO far, in all threads that I've seen you failed to mention one VERY
> important factor - your Operating System!! (version of Windows) - I'll have
> to assume that it's Windows XP... and probably SP1, rather than SP2
>
> 2) You've referenced a number of error messages.... 0x80200010 would seem
> to be the current problem??
>
> 3) this error message would appear to result from an apparently missing
> network connection - what firewall are you using? (if any???) Do you have
> Norton software installed??
>
>
> Assuming that, then I suggest that you try the following first
> Go to Start|Run, and type in the following commands - end each with OK, or
> Enter
>
> regsvr32.exe wuaueng.dll
> regsvr32.exe wuapi.dll
> regsvr32.exe wups.dll
> regsvr32.exe wucltui.dll
> regsvr32.exe atl.dll
> regsvr32.exe wintrust.dll
>
> reboot the machine and try again
>
> 3) What Anti-Virus are you using??
> the error message actually means....
> <quote Taurarian>
> BG_E_NETWORK_DISCONNECTED
> 0x80200010
> The network card is inactive or disconnected. All jobs are placed in the
> BG_JOB_STATE_TRANSIENT_ERROR state
> If you're not running Panda anti virus, check your device manager.
>
> If you have Panda, have you ran the hotfixes?
> For the conflict between windows update and Panda anti-virus Titanium 2005
> the hotfix is: hfT50504s8.exe
> and you can find it here:
> http://www.pandasoftware.com/support...ma=2&pagina=16
>
> For Panda Platinum 2005, and you get 0x80200010 , go to:
> http://www.pandasoftware.com/support...oma=2&pagina=3
> <\quote>
> Again, reboot, and try Windows Updates again
>
> You should also check your Services are running properly!
>
> <quote Maurice N>
> From Start menu, select RUN, then type in
>
> services.msc <Enter-key>
>
>
> Here are the services & their Startup types:
>
> Background Intelligent Transfer Service(BITS) Manual
> Cryptographic Services Automatic
> Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Automatic
> System Restore Service Automatic
>
>
> Bring up Windows Explorer / Tools / Folder Options/ select VIEW Tab and
> look at all of settings listed.
>
> "CHECK" (turn on) Display the contents of system folders.
>
> Under column, Hidden files and folders----choose ( *select* ) Show hidden
> files and folders.
> Next, un-check Hide extensions for known file types.
> Next un-check Hide protected operating system files.
>
> Use Windows Explorer. Go to C:\Windows\System32
>
> If you have a sub-folder called * Catroot2 * (not Catroot) rename the
> folder to CR2OLD. Or delete everything in that folder. Just make sure you
> do the right one.
>
> (to clean up downloaded files for Automatic updates / Windows Update)
> From main Windows Start menu, select RUN, type in
> CMD <Enter-key>
>
> type in
> net stop wuauserv <Enter-key>
>
> Go to Windows Explorer.
> Look on your system drive (usually C ) and look at the Windows folder name.
> Like Windows or WINNT.
> Modify following as appropriate.
> If your Windows folder is C:\Windows. Look at this folder
> C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download
>
> If you find files in there, delete them. That folder is where files are
> stored from W U downloads.
>
> Go back to Command prompt window.
> type in
> net start wuauserv <Enter-key>
>
> EXIT <Enter-key>
>
> keep this page handy
> http://aumha.org/win5/a/sp2faq.htm
>
> Logoff and restart Windows before trying updates again.
> <\quote>
>
> Check your Event Viewer (Start|Run, type EVENTVWR.MSC and click OK) - what
> errors is it throwing up??
>
>
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> "Oceana Rose" <> wrote in message
> news:80A6451C-100A-4CD9-A1CE-...
> > Noel, below you will see a message I wrote earlier this week regarding
> > this
> > situation. It seems many people are having similar or same problems. What
> > If
> > upi type in "Oceana Rose" in the Search For Box you will see my messages
> > this
> > week. Now you will probably not want to do that because it means you have
> > to
> > go "here and there" to read all the things I wrote, but that's exactly why
> > I'm not happy with this problem. I'm tired of going " here and there"
> > because
> > it should be easier than this. It should just plain work.
> >
> > <<<<<I'm having the same problem. I have a 2+ Year old Gateway. I know my
> > disk is valid. Error Code: 0x80200010. 10 critical downloads failed twice.
> > I
> > turned
> > off my antivirus and security shield and have Popups "okay". Now
> > what?>>>>>
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> >
> > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >
> >> All whinge and no data gets a poor response
> >> What was the EXACT error message?
> >> How did you attempt to install the patches? - did they download OK, but
> >> refuse to install, or did they not download??
> >>
> >> --
> >> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >>
> >> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >>
> >> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> >> "Oceana Rose" <> wrote in message
> >> news:51F39E05-3893-45AF-A158-...
> >> > This is just too hard now to update my Windows XP with Windows Update.
> >> > It
> >> > isn't working. 10 critical downloads were all uninstalled. It's time
> >> > consuming and hard to figure out what to try next. I have turned off my
> >> > antivirus program and security shield to try to do this. I have made
> >> > sure
> >> > that popups weren't a problem as much as I can. I have been
> >> > unsuccessful
> >> > today doing this. All the links are confusing and not easy to do. This
> >> > needs
> >> > to be fixed for all the people trying to maintain their computers in
> >> > the
> >> > best
> >> > way. I have 2 computers and have only tried to update one at this
> >> > point.
> >> > Mine
> >> > is a Gateway and the other is a Dell. Both are 2.5 and 1 year old
> >> > respectively. Both have valid Windows XP programs.
> >> >
> >> > It needs to be fixed.
> >> >
> >> > Oceana Rose
> >>
> >>
>
>

No-one expects you to sit and wait for a solution to you problem - but you
need to begin your own threads, rather than tag along on the end of other
peoples.
No two PCs are the same, and its rare that any two PCs will exhibit exactly
the same symptoms in an error, so when troubleshooting, its far better to
have your own thread (and then stick to it), and include a coherent history
of the problem together with verbatim error messages where applicable.
One of the problems with the way that you scatter-gunned your earlier data
was that little bits of information were contained in different places -
with the consequence that they got lost - and it was late here, so I didn't,
I admit give it the attention I should have done.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Oceana Rose" <> wrote in message
news922562B-766C-4FEE-8425-...
> Listed below are my messages that I wrote while reading in the newsgroup
> looking for information in order to fix this myself.
>
> Written on 6-16-06,
>
> I tried installing Windows Update on my Windows XP SP2 and it fails
> everytime. I tried using Update to install Critical Downloads and it
> failed
> on all 10 downloads. At this point I have spent enough time trying. I
> turned
> off my antivirus and security shields prior to downloads. I quit for now.
> This is too time consuming.
>
> In another post same day:
>
> I'm having the same problem. I have a 2+ Year old Gateway. I know my disk
> is
> valid. Error Code: 0x80200010. 10 critical downloads failed twice. I
> turned
> off my antivirus and security shield and have Popups "okay". Now what?
>
> Response to Robin Walker (MVP) on 6-16-06, same day:
> Robin Walker asked about my Antivirus software.
>
> No, I am using Freedom antivirus software by Zero Knowledge supplied with
> Adelphia Internet Service. I had turned off the antivirus software before
> trying to update.
>
> Response also on 6-16-06:
>
> This is just too hard now to update my Windows XP with Windows Update. It
> isn't working. 10 critical downloads were all uninstalled. It's time
> consuming and hard to figure out what to try next. I have turned off my
> antivirus program and security shield to try to do this. I have made sure
> that popups weren't a problem as much as I can. I have been unsuccessful
> today doing this. All the links are confusing and not easy to do. This
> needs
> to be fixed for all the people trying to maintain their computers in the
> best
> way. I have 2 computers and have only tried to update one at this point.
> Mine
> is a Gateway and the other is a Dell. Both are 2.5 and 1 year old
> respectively. Both have valid Windows XP programs.
>
> Now, Mr. Paton: In the first message I mentioned I has Windows XP SP2. I
> also reported only one error message on the messages I posted starting
> 6-16-06. That error message was 0x80200010 not a "number of them". My
> firewall is Freedom software supplied by Adelphia.net, my ISP. I had
> turned
> off my antivirus and firewall prior to attempting to download these
> progams.
> I have no other antivirus software installed on my computer.
>
> The information you so generously supplied will be looked into and it
> looks
> like it's in such detail I will just work on it shortly. However, I did
> not
> think that I barged into any conversations. I was reading and contributing
> (talking on subject). I did not know there was a specific protocol on this
> bulletinboard/newsgroup. I've used many bulletinboard/newsgroups for
> years,
> since this whole internet was a baby. It has evolved so much it's fun to
> remember the "old times". I actually thought it was better to try to
> converse
> within already framed conversations rather than post yet another topic.
> However, here on this newsgroup I have learned a valuable lesson. I won't
> barge in no matter what, I won't post, I'll j ust wait until the answer
> comes
> up, and I will try to figure out what data you all need before I do post
> should it become necessary. Had I known all the commands you gave me and
> about the BG_E_NETWORK_DISCONNECTED thing,
>
> regsvr32.exe wuaueng.dll
> regsvr32.exe wuapi.dll
> regsvr32.exe wups.dll
> regsvr32.exe wucltui.dll
> regsvr32.exe atl.dll
> regsvr32.exe wintrust.dll
>
> and all the other things you mentioned here in this message I guess I
> wouldn't have needed help. I'm so sorry to have inconvenienced people here
> but I needed answers.
>
> I am 61 years old, a grandmother and I think I'm doing pretty good with
> computers. I have had a design service for lettering Race Cars and 16
> wheel
> trucks, I've worked with designing for many things, I work with
> Photography,
> I just try to learn as much as I can to take care of my computer since
> it's
> my road to creating things.
> Thank you for your help,
> Marion known here and many other places as Oceana Rose
>

I know this is an old post, but I just read it as I'm having the same
problem. Noel.....some of us older people don't even know what a "thread"
is, what a "post" means, much less how to use them.....it's all greek to
beginners and I think you were being quite rude during this session. Just an
observation Noel, and I hope you've improved your people skills, because
you're obviously very intelligent.

"Noel Paton" wrote:

> No-one expects you to sit and wait for a solution to you problem - but you
> need to begin your own threads, rather than tag along on the end of other
> peoples.
> No two PCs are the same, and its rare that any two PCs will exhibit exactly
> the same symptoms in an error, so when troubleshooting, its far better to
> have your own thread (and then stick to it), and include a coherent history
> of the problem together with verbatim error messages where applicable.
> One of the problems with the way that you scatter-gunned your earlier data
> was that little bits of information were contained in different places -
> with the consequence that they got lost - and it was late here, so I didn't,
> I admit give it the attention I should have done.
>
> --
> Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>
> Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>
> Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>
> "Oceana Rose" <> wrote in message
> news922562B-766C-4FEE-8425-...
> > Listed below are my messages that I wrote while reading in the newsgroup
> > looking for information in order to fix this myself.
> >
> > Written on 6-16-06,
> >
> > I tried installing Windows Update on my Windows XP SP2 and it fails
> > everytime. I tried using Update to install Critical Downloads and it
> > failed
> > on all 10 downloads. At this point I have spent enough time trying. I
> > turned
> > off my antivirus and security shields prior to downloads. I quit for now.
> > This is too time consuming.
> >
> > In another post same day:
> >
> > I'm having the same problem. I have a 2+ Year old Gateway. I know my disk
> > is
> > valid. Error Code: 0x80200010. 10 critical downloads failed twice. I
> > turned
> > off my antivirus and security shield and have Popups "okay". Now what?
> >
> > Response to Robin Walker (MVP) on 6-16-06, same day:
> > Robin Walker asked about my Antivirus software.
> >
> > No, I am using Freedom antivirus software by Zero Knowledge supplied with
> > Adelphia Internet Service. I had turned off the antivirus software before
> > trying to update.
> >
> > Response also on 6-16-06:
> >
> > This is just too hard now to update my Windows XP with Windows Update. It
> > isn't working. 10 critical downloads were all uninstalled. It's time
> > consuming and hard to figure out what to try next. I have turned off my
> > antivirus program and security shield to try to do this. I have made sure
> > that popups weren't a problem as much as I can. I have been unsuccessful
> > today doing this. All the links are confusing and not easy to do. This
> > needs
> > to be fixed for all the people trying to maintain their computers in the
> > best
> > way. I have 2 computers and have only tried to update one at this point.
> > Mine
> > is a Gateway and the other is a Dell. Both are 2.5 and 1 year old
> > respectively. Both have valid Windows XP programs.
> >
> > Now, Mr. Paton: In the first message I mentioned I has Windows XP SP2. I
> > also reported only one error message on the messages I posted starting
> > 6-16-06. That error message was 0x80200010 not a "number of them". My
> > firewall is Freedom software supplied by Adelphia.net, my ISP. I had
> > turned
> > off my antivirus and firewall prior to attempting to download these
> > progams.
> > I have no other antivirus software installed on my computer.
> >
> > The information you so generously supplied will be looked into and it
> > looks
> > like it's in such detail I will just work on it shortly. However, I did
> > not
> > think that I barged into any conversations. I was reading and contributing
> > (talking on subject). I did not know there was a specific protocol on this
> > bulletinboard/newsgroup. I've used many bulletinboard/newsgroups for
> > years,
> > since this whole internet was a baby. It has evolved so much it's fun to
> > remember the "old times". I actually thought it was better to try to
> > converse
> > within already framed conversations rather than post yet another topic.
> > However, here on this newsgroup I have learned a valuable lesson. I won't
> > barge in no matter what, I won't post, I'll j ust wait until the answer
> > comes
> > up, and I will try to figure out what data you all need before I do post
> > should it become necessary. Had I known all the commands you gave me and
> > about the BG_E_NETWORK_DISCONNECTED thing,
> >
> > regsvr32.exe wuaueng.dll
> > regsvr32.exe wuapi.dll
> > regsvr32.exe wups.dll
> > regsvr32.exe wucltui.dll
> > regsvr32.exe atl.dll
> > regsvr32.exe wintrust.dll
> >
> > and all the other things you mentioned here in this message I guess I
> > wouldn't have needed help. I'm so sorry to have inconvenienced people here
> > but I needed answers.
> >
> > I am 61 years old, a grandmother and I think I'm doing pretty good with
> > computers. I have had a design service for lettering Race Cars and 16
> > wheel
> > trucks, I've worked with designing for many things, I work with
> > Photography,
> > I just try to learn as much as I can to take care of my computer since
> > it's
> > my road to creating things.
> > Thank you for your help,
> > Marion known here and many other places as Oceana Rose
> >
>
>

Noel has not been in these newsgroups in quite some time, Imagrandma2.
Frankly, how did you find such an old post ? >>>>6-16-06

Are you having an issue with updating Windows or are you trying to
contact Noel ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Imagrandma2 wrote:

> I know this is an old post, but I just read it as I'm having the same
> problem. Noel.....some of us older people don't even know what a "thread"
> is, what a "post" means, much less how to use them.....it's all greek to
> beginners and I think you were being quite rude during this session. Just an
> observation Noel, and I hope you've improved your people skills, because
> you're obviously very intelligent.
>
> "Noel Paton" wrote:
>
>
>>No-one expects you to sit and wait for a solution to you problem - but you
>>need to begin your own threads, rather than tag along on the end of other
>>peoples.
>>No two PCs are the same, and its rare that any two PCs will exhibit exactly
>>the same symptoms in an error, so when troubleshooting, its far better to
>>have your own thread (and then stick to it), and include a coherent history
>>of the problem together with verbatim error messages where applicable.
>>One of the problems with the way that you scatter-gunned your earlier data
>>was that little bits of information were contained in different places -
>>with the consequence that they got lost - and it was late here, so I didn't,
>>I admit give it the attention I should have done.
>>
>>--
>>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>
>>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>
>>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>>
>>"Oceana Rose" <> wrote in message
>>news922562B-766C-4FEE-8425-...
>>
>>>Listed below are my messages that I wrote while reading in the newsgroup
>>>looking for information in order to fix this myself.
>>>
>>>Written on 6-16-06,
>>>
>>>I tried installing Windows Update on my Windows XP SP2 and it fails
>>>everytime. I tried using Update to install Critical Downloads and it
>>>failed
>>>on all 10 downloads. At this point I have spent enough time trying. I
>>>turned
>>>off my antivirus and security shields prior to downloads. I quit for now.
>>>This is too time consuming.
>>>
>>>In another post same day:
>>>
>>>I'm having the same problem. I have a 2+ Year old Gateway. I know my disk
>>>is
>>>valid. Error Code: 0x80200010. 10 critical downloads failed twice. I
>>>turned
>>>off my antivirus and security shield and have Popups "okay". Now what?
>>>
>>>Response to Robin Walker (MVP) on 6-16-06, same day:
>>>Robin Walker asked about my Antivirus software.
>>>
>>>No, I am using Freedom antivirus software by Zero Knowledge supplied with
>>>Adelphia Internet Service. I had turned off the antivirus software before
>>>trying to update.
>>>
>>>Response also on 6-16-06:
>>>
>>>This is just too hard now to update my Windows XP with Windows Update. It
>>>isn't working. 10 critical downloads were all uninstalled. It's time
>>>consuming and hard to figure out what to try next. I have turned off my
>>>antivirus program and security shield to try to do this. I have made sure
>>>that popups weren't a problem as much as I can. I have been unsuccessful
>>>today doing this. All the links are confusing and not easy to do. This
>>>needs
>>>to be fixed for all the people trying to maintain their computers in the
>>>best
>>>way. I have 2 computers and have only tried to update one at this point.
>>>Mine
>>>is a Gateway and the other is a Dell. Both are 2.5 and 1 year old
>>>respectively. Both have valid Windows XP programs.
>>>
>>>Now, Mr. Paton: In the first message I mentioned I has Windows XP SP2. I
>>>also reported only one error message on the messages I posted starting
>>>6-16-06. That error message was 0x80200010 not a "number of them". My
>>>firewall is Freedom software supplied by Adelphia.net, my ISP. I had
>>>turned
>>>off my antivirus and firewall prior to attempting to download these
>>>progams.
>>>I have no other antivirus software installed on my computer.
>>>
>>>The information you so generously supplied will be looked into and it
>>>looks
>>>like it's in such detail I will just work on it shortly. However, I did
>>>not
>>>think that I barged into any conversations. I was reading and contributing
>>>(talking on subject). I did not know there was a specific protocol on this
>>>bulletinboard/newsgroup. I've used many bulletinboard/newsgroups for
>>>years,
>>>since this whole internet was a baby. It has evolved so much it's fun to
>>>remember the "old times". I actually thought it was better to try to
>>>converse
>>>within already framed conversations rather than post yet another topic.
>>>However, here on this newsgroup I have learned a valuable lesson. I won't
>>>barge in no matter what, I won't post, I'll j ust wait until the answer
>>>comes
>>>up, and I will try to figure out what data you all need before I do post
>>>should it become necessary. Had I known all the commands you gave me and
>>>about the BG_E_NETWORK_DISCONNECTED thing,
>>>
>>>regsvr32.exe wuaueng.dll
>>>regsvr32.exe wuapi.dll
>>>regsvr32.exe wups.dll
>>>regsvr32.exe wucltui.dll
>>>regsvr32.exe atl.dll
>>>regsvr32.exe wintrust.dll
>>>
>>>and all the other things you mentioned here in this message I guess I
>>>wouldn't have needed help. I'm so sorry to have inconvenienced people here
>>>but I needed answers.
>>>
>>>I am 61 years old, a grandmother and I think I'm doing pretty good with
>>>computers. I have had a design service for lettering Race Cars and 16
>>>wheel
>>>trucks, I've worked with designing for many things, I work with
>>>Photography,
>>>I just try to learn as much as I can to take care of my computer since
>>>it's
>>>my road to creating things.
>>>Thank you for your help,
>>>Marion known here and many other places as Oceana Rose
>>>
>>
>>

Sorry MowGreen, It just irritates me when I see people criticized for their
lack of knowledge on such a difficult subject (for most older people). I was
having the same issue and did a googe search for some help, that's how I
found the post. I apologize for reacting and using the area for personal
comments. Won't happen again. And I have solved my issue with helpful
advice from this public dicussion area. Thanks MowGreen.


"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> Noel has not been in these newsgroups in quite some time, Imagrandma2.
> Frankly, how did you find such an old post ? >>>>6-16-06
>
> Are you having an issue with updating Windows or are you trying to
> contact Noel ?
>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
>
> Imagrandma2 wrote:
>
> > I know this is an old post, but I just read it as I'm having the same
> > problem. Noel.....some of us older people don't even know what a "thread"
> > is, what a "post" means, much less how to use them.....it's all greek to
> > beginners and I think you were being quite rude during this session. Just an
> > observation Noel, and I hope you've improved your people skills, because
> > you're obviously very intelligent.
> >
> > "Noel Paton" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>No-one expects you to sit and wait for a solution to you problem - but you
> >>need to begin your own threads, rather than tag along on the end of other
> >>peoples.
> >>No two PCs are the same, and its rare that any two PCs will exhibit exactly
> >>the same symptoms in an error, so when troubleshooting, its far better to
> >>have your own thread (and then stick to it), and include a coherent history
> >>of the problem together with verbatim error messages where applicable.
> >>One of the problems with the way that you scatter-gunned your earlier data
> >>was that little bits of information were contained in different places -
> >>with the consequence that they got lost - and it was late here, so I didn't,
> >>I admit give it the attention I should have done.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
> >>
> >>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
> >>http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
> >>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
> >>
> >>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
> >>
> >>"Oceana Rose" <> wrote in message
> >>news922562B-766C-4FEE-8425-...
> >>
> >>>Listed below are my messages that I wrote while reading in the newsgroup
> >>>looking for information in order to fix this myself.
> >>>
> >>>Written on 6-16-06,
> >>>
> >>>I tried installing Windows Update on my Windows XP SP2 and it fails
> >>>everytime. I tried using Update to install Critical Downloads and it
> >>>failed
> >>>on all 10 downloads. At this point I have spent enough time trying. I
> >>>turned
> >>>off my antivirus and security shields prior to downloads. I quit for now.
> >>>This is too time consuming.
> >>>
> >>>In another post same day:
> >>>
> >>>I'm having the same problem. I have a 2+ Year old Gateway. I know my disk
> >>>is
> >>>valid. Error Code: 0x80200010. 10 critical downloads failed twice. I
> >>>turned
> >>>off my antivirus and security shield and have Popups "okay". Now what?
> >>>
> >>>Response to Robin Walker (MVP) on 6-16-06, same day:
> >>>Robin Walker asked about my Antivirus software.
> >>>
> >>>No, I am using Freedom antivirus software by Zero Knowledge supplied with
> >>>Adelphia Internet Service. I had turned off the antivirus software before
> >>>trying to update.
> >>>
> >>>Response also on 6-16-06:
> >>>
> >>>This is just too hard now to update my Windows XP with Windows Update. It
> >>>isn't working. 10 critical downloads were all uninstalled. It's time
> >>>consuming and hard to figure out what to try next. I have turned off my
> >>>antivirus program and security shield to try to do this. I have made sure
> >>>that popups weren't a problem as much as I can. I have been unsuccessful
> >>>today doing this. All the links are confusing and not easy to do. This
> >>>needs
> >>>to be fixed for all the people trying to maintain their computers in the
> >>>best
> >>>way. I have 2 computers and have only tried to update one at this point.
> >>>Mine
> >>>is a Gateway and the other is a Dell. Both are 2.5 and 1 year old
> >>>respectively. Both have valid Windows XP programs.
> >>>
> >>>Now, Mr. Paton: In the first message I mentioned I has Windows XP SP2. I
> >>>also reported only one error message on the messages I posted starting
> >>>6-16-06. That error message was 0x80200010 not a "number of them". My
> >>>firewall is Freedom software supplied by Adelphia.net, my ISP. I had
> >>>turned
> >>>off my antivirus and firewall prior to attempting to download these
> >>>progams.
> >>>I have no other antivirus software installed on my computer.
> >>>
> >>>The information you so generously supplied will be looked into and it
> >>>looks
> >>>like it's in such detail I will just work on it shortly. However, I did
> >>>not
> >>>think that I barged into any conversations. I was reading and contributing
> >>>(talking on subject). I did not know there was a specific protocol on this
> >>>bulletinboard/newsgroup. I've used many bulletinboard/newsgroups for
> >>>years,
> >>>since this whole internet was a baby. It has evolved so much it's fun to
> >>>remember the "old times". I actually thought it was better to try to
> >>>converse
> >>>within already framed conversations rather than post yet another topic.
> >>>However, here on this newsgroup I have learned a valuable lesson. I won't
> >>>barge in no matter what, I won't post, I'll j ust wait until the answer
> >>>comes
> >>>up, and I will try to figure out what data you all need before I do post
> >>>should it become necessary. Had I known all the commands you gave me and
> >>>about the BG_E_NETWORK_DISCONNECTED thing,
> >>>
> >>>regsvr32.exe wuaueng.dll
> >>>regsvr32.exe wuapi.dll
> >>>regsvr32.exe wups.dll
> >>>regsvr32.exe wucltui.dll
> >>>regsvr32.exe atl.dll
> >>>regsvr32.exe wintrust.dll
> >>>
> >>>and all the other things you mentioned here in this message I guess I
> >>>wouldn't have needed help. I'm so sorry to have inconvenienced people here
> >>>but I needed answers.
> >>>
> >>>I am 61 years old, a grandmother and I think I'm doing pretty good with
> >>>computers. I have had a design service for lettering Race Cars and 16
> >>>wheel
> >>>trucks, I've worked with designing for many things, I work with
> >>>Photography,
> >>>I just try to learn as much as I can to take care of my computer since
> >>>it's
> >>>my road to creating things.
> >>>Thank you for your help,
> >>>Marion known here and many other places as Oceana Rose
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>

Well, I'm no spring chicken myself, so I have a foot in both camps. <w>
Believe me, trying to help others becomes very frustrating when some
folks think they know what they're doing and won't listen and others
have no clue as to the protocols in regards to how to post a question.

BTW, this is the new URL that shows how a post should be made so that
others who want to help out understand just what the issue may be :
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm

Anywho ... glad to hear that you resolved the issue. Now everyone is
happy. <g>


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



Imagrandma2 wrote:

> Sorry MowGreen, It just irritates me when I see people criticized for their
> lack of knowledge on such a difficult subject (for most older people). I was
> having the same issue and did a googe search for some help, that's how I
> found the post. I apologize for reacting and using the area for personal
> comments. Won't happen again. And I have solved my issue with helpful
> advice from this public dicussion area. Thanks MowGreen.
>
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:
>
>
>>Noel has not been in these newsgroups in quite some time, Imagrandma2.
>>Frankly, how did you find such an old post ? >>>>6-16-06
>>
>>Are you having an issue with updating Windows or are you trying to
>>contact Noel ?
>>
>>
>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
>>===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>>Never Forgotten
>>===============
>>
>>
>>
>>Imagrandma2 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I know this is an old post, but I just read it as I'm having the same
>>>problem. Noel.....some of us older people don't even know what a "thread"
>>>is, what a "post" means, much less how to use them.....it's all greek to
>>>beginners and I think you were being quite rude during this session. Just an
>>>observation Noel, and I hope you've improved your people skills, because
>>>you're obviously very intelligent.
>>>
>>>"Noel Paton" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>No-one expects you to sit and wait for a solution to you problem - but you
>>>>need to begin your own threads, rather than tag along on the end of other
>>>>peoples.
>>>>No two PCs are the same, and its rare that any two PCs will exhibit exactly
>>>>the same symptoms in an error, so when troubleshooting, its far better to
>>>>have your own thread (and then stick to it), and include a coherent history
>>>>of the problem together with verbatim error messages where applicable.
>>>>One of the problems with the way that you scatter-gunned your earlier data
>>>>was that little bits of information were contained in different places -
>>>>with the consequence that they got lost - and it was late here, so I didn't,
>>>>I admit give it the attention I should have done.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
>>>>
>>>>Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
>>>>http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
>>>>
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
>>>>
>>>>Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
>>>>
>>>>"Oceana Rose" <> wrote in message
>>>>news922562B-766C-4FEE-8425-...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Listed below are my messages that I wrote while reading in the newsgroup
>>>>>looking for information in order to fix this myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>Written on 6-16-06,
>>>>>
>>>>>I tried installing Windows Update on my Windows XP SP2 and it fails
>>>>>everytime. I tried using Update to install Critical Downloads and it
>>>>>failed
>>>>>on all 10 downloads. At this point I have spent enough time trying. I
>>>>>turned
>>>>>off my antivirus and security shields prior to downloads. I quit for now.
>>>>>This is too time consuming.
>>>>>
>>>>>In another post same day:
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm having the same problem. I have a 2+ Year old Gateway. I know my disk
>>>>>is
>>>>>valid. Error Code: 0x80200010. 10 critical downloads failed twice. I
>>>>>turned
>>>>>off my antivirus and security shield and have Popups "okay". Now what?
>>>>>
>>>>>Response to Robin Walker (MVP) on 6-16-06, same day:
>>>>>Robin Walker asked about my Antivirus software.
>>>>>
>>>>>No, I am using Freedom antivirus software by Zero Knowledge supplied with
>>>>>Adelphia Internet Service. I had turned off the antivirus software before
>>>>>trying to update.
>>>>>
>>>>>Response also on 6-16-06:
>>>>>
>>>>>This is just too hard now to update my Windows XP with Windows Update. It
>>>>>isn't working. 10 critical downloads were all uninstalled. It's time
>>>>>consuming and hard to figure out what to try next. I have turned off my
>>>>>antivirus program and security shield to try to do this. I have made sure
>>>>>that popups weren't a problem as much as I can. I have been unsuccessful
>>>>>today doing this. All the links are confusing and not easy to do. This
>>>>>needs
>>>>>to be fixed for all the people trying to maintain their computers in the
>>>>>best
>>>>>way. I have 2 computers and have only tried to update one at this point.
>>>>>Mine
>>>>>is a Gateway and the other is a Dell. Both are 2.5 and 1 year old
>>>>>respectively. Both have valid Windows XP programs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now, Mr. Paton: In the first message I mentioned I has Windows XP SP2. I
>>>>>also reported only one error message on the messages I posted starting
>>>>>6-16-06. That error message was 0x80200010 not a "number of them". My
>>>>>firewall is Freedom software supplied by Adelphia.net, my ISP. I had
>>>>>turned
>>>>>off my antivirus and firewall prior to attempting to download these
>>>>>progams.
>>>>>I have no other antivirus software installed on my computer.
>>>>>
>>>>>The information you so generously supplied will be looked into and it
>>>>>looks
>>>>>like it's in such detail I will just work on it shortly. However, I did
>>>>>not
>>>>>think that I barged into any conversations. I was reading and contributing
>>>>>(talking on subject). I did not know there was a specific protocol on this
>>>>>bulletinboard/newsgroup. I've used many bulletinboard/newsgroups for
>>>>>years,
>>>>>since this whole internet was a baby. It has evolved so much it's fun to
>>>>>remember the "old times". I actually thought it was better to try to
>>>>>converse
>>>>>within already framed conversations rather than post yet another topic.
>>>>>However, here on this newsgroup I have learned a valuable lesson. I won't
>>>>>barge in no matter what, I won't post, I'll j ust wait until the answer
>>>>>comes
>>>>>up, and I will try to figure out what data you all need before I do post
>>>>>should it become necessary. Had I known all the commands you gave me and
>>>>>about the BG_E_NETWORK_DISCONNECTED thing,
>>>>>
>>>>>regsvr32.exe wuaueng.dll
>>>>>regsvr32.exe wuapi.dll
>>>>>regsvr32.exe wups.dll
>>>>>regsvr32.exe wucltui.dll
>>>>>regsvr32.exe atl.dll
>>>>>regsvr32.exe wintrust.dll
>>>>>
>>>>>and all the other things you mentioned here in this message I guess I
>>>>>wouldn't have needed help. I'm so sorry to have inconvenienced people here
>>>>>but I needed answers.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am 61 years old, a grandmother and I think I'm doing pretty good with
>>>>>computers. I have had a design service for lettering Race Cars and 16
>>>>>wheel
>>>>>trucks, I've worked with designing for many things, I work with
>>>>>Photography,
>>>>>I just try to learn as much as I can to take care of my computer since
>>>>>it's
>>>>>my road to creating things.
>>>>>Thank you for your help,
>>>>>Marion known here and many other places as Oceana Rose
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>