Thanks for your very clear, explicit statement about Windows Update support,
below. That should be on the WinXP SP3 (Release Candidate 2) site. It's not
- and I did look. It should be in big, bold letters on a banner.
FYI - I wasn't trying to run SP-3rc on a "production" machine - it's a
secondary test workstation I was using to test both OS and application
stability and functionality under SP3rc2. Silly me for expecting the
simplest, most basic OS features, such as Windows Update and manual patches,
to actually work.
I am rolling-back the box. I won't bother with SP3 until it's released,
officially - assuming they've fixed the update & patching problems by then.
I'm not so self-indulgent as to leave an unpatched, unpatchable box tied to
the internet that's wide open for the spammers and the rest of the organized
crime in the world. (The fact that a number of old, critical post-SP2
security patches were left out of what was allegedly a "cumulative" update is
something I'll press further in the SP3 forum).
Finally, this thread was originally a comment and a warning for others who
might be facing the same issues with Windows Update. Not a request for
support.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> With very rare exceptions, Windows Update simply does not support beta
> applications (especially Windows betas), period, end of story.
>
> Note that neither of us are saying that WinXP SP3 isn't vulnerable to the
> exploits addressed by the Feb-08 critical updates. Then again, you
> shouldn't be running a beta build of a Windows OS on a production machine in
> the first place.
>
> Repeat: The only support for WinXP SP3 is in
> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...2010&SiteID=17 or
> the beta newsgroup.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
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>
>
> LB_Colorado wrote:
> > XP SP3rc forum has nothing to say on the issue.
> >
> > No where did I see anything like "Won't update - don't expect it to" on
> > the
> > beta site. Only an idiot, or a developer who needs to do some application
> > testing, would ever want ot use an OS that couldn't be patched.
> >
> > As noted, the failure to replace vulnerable files left over from 2004
> > indicates the updates are needed - they simply aren't happening.
> >
> > Cannot individually install updates, as installers flake out when applying
> > what is apparently a pre-SP3 update to a box that identifying itself as
> > SP3.
> >
> > Don't mind problems and helping MS test - that's the point of betas.
> > However, when something as basic as Windows Update - or the ability to
> > apply
> > later patches is broken beyond repair, then it would seem this version of
> > SP3 should still be an alpha - not a second-generation "release
> > candidate".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks" wrote:
> >
> >> XP sp3 is as you say a beta. Check with the XP sp3 beta newsgroup for
> >> guidance.
> >>
> >> When items are in beta they are not officially supported for all
> >> security patches thus it's typical that you won't get offered all of
> >> them nor even perhaps need them.
> >>
> >> Betas should not be run on production machines without the administrator
> >> understanding that you won't get all the patches, nor you may not need
> >> them.
> >>
> >> My advice to get rid of the bad feeling is to either roll yourself back
> >> to XP sp2 or obtain guidance in the beta newsgroup.
> >>
> >> LB_Colorado wrote:
> >>> Although Windows XP SP3-RC2 is still a beta, it's worthwhile for folks
> >>> to
> >>> be aware that there are issues with security updates.
> >>>
> >>> Running WinXP Pro with SP3 rc2 applied to a base SP2 reinstall (rebuild
> >>> less than 2 weeks old).
> >>>
> >>> Confirm that the only Feb. 2008 Windows update that appears is the
> >>> malicious code removal tool. Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer vs.
> >>> 2.0.1 shows no missing updates yesterday and today (Feb. 12-13).
> >>>
> >>> My 3 other SP2 boxes are happily updating (now updated).
> >>>
> >>> Manually checked file versions for Critical MS-08-007 and -008 updates.
> >>> My SP3 RC build shows 2004 versions of both:
> >>>
> >>> MRXDAV.SYS vs 5.1.2600.3264 (dtd 9/14/2004) instead of updated
> >>> 5.1.2600.3276, dtd 12/18/2007
> >>>
> >>> OLEAUT32.DLL vs. 5.1.2600.3264, dtd Oct 2004 instead of updated Dec 2007
> >>> vs.
> >>> 5.1.2600.3266.
> >>>
> >>> Have not checked older MS security updates, but have very bad feeling
> >>> about this.
> >>>
> >>> Windows Updates and Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer appear to be
> >>> broken under SP3 rc. Will try to manually apply the MS-007 and MS-008
> >>> updates, but previous attempts to apply old updates (i.e. Time Zone
> >>> Update for Dec. 2007) have failed under SP3 rc2.
>
>
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