Windows Update Service gets deleted

The Windows Update Service did not show in the Services list. I ran one of
the posted scripts to register a number of DLLs. I can now start the service
and access the Windows Update site without problems. However after one reboot
the sevice gets disablet, flagged for deletion and after another reboot it
does not show in the list any more. I can repeat this sequence as many times
that I like with the same result. Any ideas on how to get the service to
stick. I hope I can get some help with a solution otherwise I guess I have to
re-install everything.

An unrelated problem is that afet installing SP2 it seems that my P2P sevice
(Warez) does not seem to be able to download anything but the search function
works. Disabling the firewall does not seem to make any difference.

/Nisse CC

"Nisse CC" <> wrote in message
news:0F11C2A0-4B4D-418B-8719-...
> The Windows Update Service did not show in the Services list. I ran one of
> the posted scripts to register a number of DLLs. I can now start the service
> and access the Windows Update site without problems. However after one reboot
> the sevice gets disablet, flagged for deletion and after another reboot it
> does not show in the list any more.

You haven't told us which version of WU this is nor have you given us
any details about your OS.

I'm puzzled by what you mean exactly by your first sentence.
In XP Services I see Automatic Updates as a service.
That's for WU v5 though and I can't remember how WU v4
was implemented.

Depending on terminology and details something which does
more or less match your symptom description is the behaviour
of the wuauclt.exe process.

Examine your logs for clues. If you have %windir%\WindowsUpdate.log
you have WUv5. Otherwise look for %windir%\Windows Update.log
(Note the space between the same two words.)

If your OS is NT check for other clues in your Event log (probably the
application log.)

Another of your non-disclosed details which may be useful to know is
if you are also using AU and how you have it set up. You could also
experiment with different settings to see if they made any difference
in your problem symptom and report those observations if you need
more help. E.g. Run... control wuaucpl.cpl Again, these are
suggestions which may only apply in a WUv5 or XPsp2 context.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---


> I can repeat this sequence as many times
> that I like with the same result. Any ideas on how to get the service to
> stick. I hope I can get some help with a solution otherwise I guess I have to
> re-install everything.
>
> An unrelated problem is that afet installing SP2 it seems that my P2P sevice
> (Warez) does not seem to be able to download anything but the search function
> works. Disabling the firewall does not seem to make any difference.
>
> /Nisse CC

I am using XP Pro with SP2. Everything except .NET Framework 1.1 has been
downloaded. It seems I have WU 5 and I am setup for Autmatic Updates at 3:00
AM. I have looked in the logs for clues but there is a lot going on I don't
see some obvious proplem.

/Nisse CC

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "Nisse CC" <> wrote in message
> news:0F11C2A0-4B4D-418B-8719-...
> > The Windows Update Service did not show in the Services list. I ran one of
> > the posted scripts to register a number of DLLs. I can now start the service
> > and access the Windows Update site without problems. However after one reboot
> > the sevice gets disablet, flagged for deletion and after another reboot it
> > does not show in the list any more.
>
> You haven't told us which version of WU this is nor have you given us
> any details about your OS.
>
> I'm puzzled by what you mean exactly by your first sentence.
> In XP Services I see Automatic Updates as a service.
> That's for WU v5 though and I can't remember how WU v4
> was implemented.
>
> Depending on terminology and details something which does
> more or less match your symptom description is the behaviour
> of the wuauclt.exe process.
>
> Examine your logs for clues. If you have %windir%\WindowsUpdate.log
> you have WUv5. Otherwise look for %windir%\Windows Update.log
> (Note the space between the same two words.)
>
> If your OS is NT check for other clues in your Event log (probably the
> application log.)
>
> Another of your non-disclosed details which may be useful to know is
> if you are also using AU and how you have it set up. You could also
> experiment with different settings to see if they made any difference
> in your problem symptom and report those observations if you need
> more help. E.g. Run... control wuaucpl.cpl Again, these are
> suggestions which may only apply in a WUv5 or XPsp2 context.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>
> > I can repeat this sequence as many times
> > that I like with the same result. Any ideas on how to get the service to
> > stick. I hope I can get some help with a solution otherwise I guess I have to
> > re-install everything.
> >
> > An unrelated problem is that afet installing SP2 it seems that my P2P sevice
> > (Warez) does not seem to be able to download anything but the search function
> > works. Disabling the firewall does not seem to make any difference.
> >
> > /Nisse CC
>
>
>
>

Here is part of WindowsUpdate.log with shutdowns indicated,



(Running DLL registration script)

2004-10-05 08:33:40+0800 3188 c78 CreateService for wuauserv succeeded

(Starting service manually)
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Service Main starts
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Using BatchFlushAge = 34433.
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Using SamplingValue = 592.
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Successfully loaded event namespace
dictionary.
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Successfully loaded client event namespace
descriptor.
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Successfully initialized local event
logger. Events will be logged at
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\ReportingEvents.lo g.
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Successfully initialized NT event logger.
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Successfully initialized event uploader 0.
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Reopened existing event cache file at
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\EventCache\{4274B9 C0-CC93-44FE-B4FF-F2AB86E9F8BB}.bin for writing.
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Successfully initialized event uploader 1.
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 WU client with version 5.4.3790.2182
successfully initialized
2004-10-05 08:34:00+0800 1012 d38 Service status is now SERVICE_RUNNING
2004-10-05 08:34:45+0800 1012 d38 start delayed initialization of WU client
2004-10-05 08:34:46+0800 3416 d5c Trying to make out of proc datastore active
2004-10-05 08:34:46+0800 3416 d5c Out of proc datastore is now active
2004-10-05 08:34:46+0800 1012 d38 Client Call Recorder finished delayed
initialization
2004-10-05 08:34:46+0800 1012 d38 Setting AU scheduled install time to
2004-10-05 19:00:00
2004-10-05 08:34:46+0800 1012 d38 AU finished delayed initialization
2004-10-05 08:39:46+0800 3416 d5c Out of proc datastore is shutting down
2004-10-05 08:39:47+0800 3416 d5c Out of proc datastore is now inactive

(Shutdown)
2004-10-05 08:41:53+0800 380 190 0 updates are ready to be installed at
shutdown.
2004-10-05 08:41:56+0800 1012 3f8 Service received logoff notification
2004-10-05 08:41:56+0800 1012 d38 AU received event of 3
2004-10-05 08:42:00+0800 1012 548 AU Restart required....
2004-10-05 08:42:00+0800 1012 d38 AU received event of 1
2004-10-05 08:42:00+0800 3976 f8c Trying to make out of proc datastore active
2004-10-05 08:42:01+0800 1012 3f8 Service received SERVICE_CONTROL_SHUTDOWN
control
2004-10-05 08:42:02+0800 3976 f8c Out of proc datastore is now active
2004-10-05 08:42:02+0800 1012 d38 AU is paused, not initializing any handlers
2004-10-05 08:42:02+0800 1012 d38 AU Restart required....
2004-10-05 08:42:02+0800 1012 d38 Exiting Service Main
2004-10-05 08:42:02+0800 3976 f8c Out of proc datastore is shutting down
2004-10-05 08:42:02+0800 1012 d38 WUAUENG ServiceMain exits. Exit code is
0x240001
2004-10-05 08:42:03+0800 3976 f8c Out of proc datastore is now inactive

(Start)
2004-10-05 08:45:56+0800 1016 20c Service Main starts
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Using BatchFlushAge = 34433.
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Using SamplingValue = 592.
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Successfully loaded event namespace
dictionary.
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Successfully loaded client event namespace
descriptor.
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Successfully initialized local event
logger. Events will be logged at
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\ReportingEvents.lo g.
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Successfully initialized NT event logger.
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Successfully initialized event uploader 0.
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Reopened existing event cache file at
C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\EventCache\{4274B9 C0-CC93-44FE-B4FF-F2AB86E9F8BB}.bin for writing.
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Successfully initialized event uploader 1.
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c WU client with version 5.4.3790.2182
successfully initialized
2004-10-05 08:45:57+0800 1016 20c Service status is now SERVICE_RUNNING
2004-10-05 08:45:58+0800 1016 3fc Service received connect notification
2004-10-05 08:46:01+0800 1016 3fc Service received SERVICE_CONTROL_STOP
control
2004-10-05 08:46:01+0800 1016 20c Exiting Service Main
2004-10-05 08:46:01+0800 1016 20c WUAUENG ServiceMain exits. Exit code is
0x240001

(Shutdown)
2004-10-05 08:51:36+0800 340 18c WUCheckForUpdatesAtShutdown failed,
hr=8024000C
2004-10-05 08:51:50+0800 624 af0 WUAutoUpdateAtShutdown failed, hr=8024000C




"Nisse CC" wrote:

> I am using XP Pro with SP2. Everything except .NET Framework 1.1 has been
> downloaded. It seems I have WU 5 and I am setup for Autmatic Updates at 3:00
> AM. I have looked in the logs for clues but there is a lot going on I don't
> see some obvious proplem.
>
> /Nisse CC
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
> > "Nisse CC" <> wrote in message
> > news:0F11C2A0-4B4D-418B-8719-...
> > > The Windows Update Service did not show in the Services list. I ran one of
> > > the posted scripts to register a number of DLLs. I can now start the service
> > > and access the Windows Update site without problems. However after one reboot
> > > the sevice gets disablet, flagged for deletion and after another reboot it
> > > does not show in the list any more.
> >
> > You haven't told us which version of WU this is nor have you given us
> > any details about your OS.
> >
> > I'm puzzled by what you mean exactly by your first sentence.
> > In XP Services I see Automatic Updates as a service.
> > That's for WU v5 though and I can't remember how WU v4
> > was implemented.
> >
> > Depending on terminology and details something which does
> > more or less match your symptom description is the behaviour
> > of the wuauclt.exe process.
> >
> > Examine your logs for clues. If you have %windir%\WindowsUpdate.log
> > you have WUv5. Otherwise look for %windir%\Windows Update.log
> > (Note the space between the same two words.)
> >
> > If your OS is NT check for other clues in your Event log (probably the
> > application log.)
> >
> > Another of your non-disclosed details which may be useful to know is
> > if you are also using AU and how you have it set up. You could also
> > experiment with different settings to see if they made any difference
> > in your problem symptom and report those observations if you need
> > more help. E.g. Run... control wuaucpl.cpl Again, these are
> > suggestions which may only apply in a WUv5 or XPsp2 context.
> >
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Robert Aldwinckle
> > ---
> >
> >
> > > I can repeat this sequence as many times
> > > that I like with the same result. Any ideas on how to get the service to
> > > stick. I hope I can get some help with a solution otherwise I guess I have to
> > > re-install everything.
> > >
> > > An unrelated problem is that afet installing SP2 it seems that my P2P sevice
> > > (Warez) does not seem to be able to download anything but the search function
> > > works. Disabling the firewall does not seem to make any difference.
> > >
> > > /Nisse CC
> >
> >
> >
> >

"Nisse CC" <> wrote in message
news:7BA1E463-60C7-4D7F-A04E-...
>I am using XP Pro with SP2. Everything except .NET Framework 1.1 has been
> downloaded. It seems I have WU 5 and I am setup for Autmatic Updates at 3:00
> AM. I have looked in the logs for clues but there is a lot going on I don't
> see some obvious proplem.

Check the properties of the Automatic Updates service.
I suspect you have it as Manual and you want it to be Automatic.
E.g. Run... services.msc etc.

If that's not it to give us something else to look at use a command
window to enter:

sc queryex wuauserv

and capture the output from the command.


Good luck

Robert
---

....

The Automatic Update is set to Automatic. The query command just confirms the
status as shown in the log capture in my previous post. As you can see the
service will first start after the first reboot but something sends it a stop
signal.

/Nisse CC

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "Nisse CC" <> wrote in message
> news:7BA1E463-60C7-4D7F-A04E-...
> >I am using XP Pro with SP2. Everything except .NET Framework 1.1 has been
> > downloaded. It seems I have WU 5 and I am setup for Autmatic Updates at 3:00
> > AM. I have looked in the logs for clues but there is a lot going on I don't
> > see some obvious proplem.
>
> Check the properties of the Automatic Updates service.
> I suspect you have it as Manual and you want it to be Automatic.
> E.g. Run... services.msc etc.
>
> If that's not it to give us something else to look at use a command
> window to enter:
>
> sc queryex wuauserv
>
> and capture the output from the command.
>
>
> Good luck
>
> Robert
> ---
>
> ....
>
>
>