Windows Virtual PC on Windows 7 very slow network access

Hello All,

I'm running Windows Virtual PC on Windows 7 RTM. (4 cores, 64 bit, 8G RAM)

I've created an XP VM but the VM's network performance back to the host
machine is really slow. A similar VM on an XP host (via Virtual PC 2007)
performs much better network-wise (orders of magnitude better probably).

I'm not running this in "XP mode" (at least I don't think I am), I just want
a VM to test software installs on.

I've installed the "Integration features". I dunno what else to pursue.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

John.

OK, worked around it, uninstalled Windows Virtual PC (y'know , the new
Windows 7 one), and installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (y'know, the old
one). This one seems to work and does all I need.

Don't get me started....

/john.

"John Daintree" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hello All,
>
> I'm running Windows Virtual PC on Windows 7 RTM. (4 cores, 64 bit, 8G RAM)
>
> I've created an XP VM but the VM's network performance back to the host
> machine is really slow. A similar VM on an XP host (via Virtual PC 2007)
> performs much better network-wise (orders of magnitude better probably).
>
> I'm not running this in "XP mode" (at least I don't think I am), I just
> want a VM to test software installs on.
>
> I've installed the "Integration features". I dunno what else to pursue.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John.

John Daintree wrote:
> OK, worked around it, uninstalled Windows Virtual PC (y'know , the new
> Windows 7 one), and installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (y'know, the old
> one). This one seems to work and does all I need.
>
> Don't get me started....

Argh! I do appreciate hearing this, as I'm about to go down that path.

So (anyone) what does the new one offer, other than USB support, that I'd be losing?
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:20:31 -0700, "Karl E. Peterson"
<> wrote:

>John Daintree wrote:
>> OK, worked around it, uninstalled Windows Virtual PC (y'know , the new
>> Windows 7 one), and installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (y'know, the old
>> one). This one seems to work and does all I need.
>>
>> Don't get me started....
>
>Argh! I do appreciate hearing this, as I'm about to go down that path.
>
>So (anyone) what does the new one offer, other than USB support, that I'd be losing?

The possibility to run a *single* program inside the virtual machine
and only show this program's window on the Win7 desktop, not the
entire viurtual machine desktop?

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Bo Berglund (Sweden)

Hopefully an update will fix the performance problems.

For my use though, I'm just testing software builds and installations, so I
don't need any of that "new" stuff.

/john

"Bo Berglund" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:20:31 -0700, "Karl E. Peterson"
> <> wrote:
>
>>John Daintree wrote:
>>> OK, worked around it, uninstalled Windows Virtual PC (y'know , the new
>>> Windows 7 one), and installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (y'know, the old
>>> one). This one seems to work and does all I need.
>>>
>>> Don't get me started....
>>
>>Argh! I do appreciate hearing this, as I'm about to go down that path.
>>
>>So (anyone) what does the new one offer, other than USB support, that I'd
>>be losing?
>
> The possibility to run a *single* program inside the virtual machine
> and only show this program's window on the Win7 desktop, not the
> entire viurtual machine desktop?
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)

Bo Berglund wrote:
>>> OK, worked around it, uninstalled Windows Virtual PC (y'know , the new
>>> Windows 7 one), and installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (y'know, the old
>>> one). This one seems to work and does all I need.
>>>
>>> Don't get me started....
>>
>>Argh! I do appreciate hearing this, as I'm about to go down that path.
>>
>>So (anyone) what does the new one offer, other than USB support, that I'd be
>>losing?
>
> The possibility to run a *single* program inside the virtual machine
> and only show this program's window on the Win7 desktop, not the
> entire viurtual machine desktop?

That's somewhat intriguing. What are you doing, maximizing the app within the VM?
Any links that I could use to get a better idea about this feature?
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http://vfred.mvps.org

Hi Karl,

I don't think I'm doing anything unusual. I start the VM, which is a fairly
"clean" XP installation, and then launch our install bootstrapper , which is
just a dialog based (so not full screen) installer. The bootstrap binary is
located on our local network. It takes an age for the install GUI to show,
and then installing the MSIs (also on the network drive) takes even longer.

I'm assuming an update to Windows 7 will fix this, but I'll probably not
notice now that I've un-installed Windows Virtual PC.

If I stumble across anythng online I'll post it here.


/john



"Karl E. Peterson" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Bo Berglund wrote:
>>>> OK, worked around it, uninstalled Windows Virtual PC (y'know , the new
>>>> Windows 7 one), and installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (y'know, the
>>>> old
>>>> one). This one seems to work and does all I need.
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me started....
>>>
>>>Argh! I do appreciate hearing this, as I'm about to go down that path.
>>>
>>>So (anyone) what does the new one offer, other than USB support, that I'd
>>>be
>>>losing?
>>
>> The possibility to run a *single* program inside the virtual machine
>> and only show this program's window on the Win7 desktop, not the
>> entire viurtual machine desktop?
>
> That's somewhat intriguing. What are you doing, maximizing the app within
> the VM? Any links that I could use to get a better idea about this
> feature?
> --
> .NET: It's About Trust!
> http://vfred.mvps.org
>

The new one also offers improved drive mapping. I am finding it easier to
move files in and out of the VM using the mapped drives.

However, they took away the capability to simply drag files in and out of
the VM. This feature was buggy in VPC 2007, but why not fix it instead of
taking it away?

Also, I am having problem with Windows VPC not responding. Occasionally,
the VM seems to simply stop responding and I will have to sit and wait for 3
- 4 seconds for it to come back. This will drive me back to VPC 2007, if I
can't find a work around. If there is a work-around, it is worth staying on
WVPC, in my opinion.

"Karl E. Peterson" wrote:

> John Daintree wrote:
> > OK, worked around it, uninstalled Windows Virtual PC (y'know , the new
> > Windows 7 one), and installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (y'know, the old
> > one). This one seems to work and does all I need.
> >
> > Don't get me started....
>
> Argh! I do appreciate hearing this, as I'm about to go down that path.
>
> So (anyone) what does the new one offer, other than USB support, that I'd be losing?
> --
> ..NET: It's About Trust!
> http://vfred.mvps.org
>
>
> .
>

ssarthur2 explained on 11/24/2009 :
> The new one also offers improved drive mapping. I am finding it easier to
> move files in and out of the VM using the mapped drives.

I like that, yeah.

> However, they took away the capability to simply drag files in and out of
> the VM. This feature was buggy in VPC 2007, but why not fix it instead of
> taking it away?

Hmmmm, yeah, that is a real WTF, isn't it?

> Also, I am having problem with Windows VPC not responding. Occasionally,
> the VM seems to simply stop responding and I will have to sit and wait for 3
> - 4 seconds for it to come back. This will drive me back to VPC 2007, if I
> can't find a work around. If there is a work-around, it is worth staying on
> WVPC, in my opinion.

I have one that I can't get the Integration Components installed in,
and it's just a giant steaming pile of y'knowwhat, at the moment. I'm
not sure what to do to get that one going.

But otherwise, it seems to be kinda sorta okay. Oh, and a Win95 VM is
popping a new error I haven't seen before, either. Ei yi yi..

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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:51:37 -0800, Karl E. Peterson <>
wrote:

>> However, they took away the capability to simply drag files in and out of
>> the VM. This feature was buggy in VPC 2007, but why not fix it instead of
>> taking it away?
>
>Hmmmm, yeah, that is a real WTF, isn't it?

The reason is that the console is totally redesigned and now uses
Remote Desktop technology. Obviously it was never possible to
drag-drop stuff in an RDP session so the infrastructure is not
there....

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Bo Berglund (Sweden)