Windows Vista (In)capable

http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298

Alias

Alias wrote:

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> Alias

What's interesting is that the i915 couldn't run Vista's aero but has no
problem whatsoever running compiz-fusion which is so much more advanced
than aero. So, it doesn't seem it's the a hardware limitation as much as
it's the inability of Microsoft developers to provide a 3d desktop that can
run efficiently. But, we already knew that. :-)

Cheers.

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Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/war...tm/compost.htm

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:40:08 +0100, Alias
<> wrote:

>http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298
>
>Alias

Maybe that is why the M$ execs went to Linux while waiting on Windows
7. Hell even they have to get some work done and that way they can
claim they've never seen a Vista BSOD like our Village Idiot.

thetruthhurts @homail.com wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:40:08 +0100, Alias
> <> wrote:
>
>
>>http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298
>>
>>Alias
>
>
> Maybe that is why the M$ execs went to Linux while waiting on Windows
> 7. Hell even they have to get some work done and that way they can
> claim they've never seen a Vista BSOD like our Village Idiot.

The queen of all village idiots can't back up anything he says with any
facts.
Liar!
Frank

thetruthhurts @homail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:40:08 +0100, Alias
> <> wrote:
>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298
>>
>> Alias
>
> Maybe that is why the M$ execs went to Linux while waiting on Windows
> 7. Hell even they have to get some work done and that way they can
> claim they've never seen a Vista BSOD like our Village Idiot.

After all the promoting you've done for Windows 7, it better be able to
make my meals, clean the house and do the laundry and dishes ;-)

Alias

Just because it can run Compiz-Fusion doesn't mean that it runs it well.

Compiz-fusion runs on my Mobility Radeon 9000. It doesn't run well
(elevated CPU usage when performing simple desktop functions, and a pegged
processor when watching Youtube videos, whereas it hits about 40% with
compiz-fusion disabled), but it runs. This is after applying every tweak I
could find.

"NoStop" wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>
> > http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298
> >
> > Alias
>
> What's interesting is that the i915 couldn't run Vista's aero but has no
> problem whatsoever running compiz-fusion which is so much more advanced
> than aero. So, it doesn't seem it's the a hardware limitation as much as
> it's the inability of Microsoft developers to provide a 3d desktop that can
> run efficiently. But, we already knew that. :-)
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> What does Bill Gates use?
> http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
>
> Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
>
> Q: What OS is built for lusers?
> A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
>
> Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
> http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/war...tm/compost.htm
>
>

"Alias" <> wrote in message
news:...
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298
>
> Alias


As always, trolls only post those links that fit their arguement. Boring and
not news to those of us who keep up, so to speak.

Yawn....

Lang

Lang Murphy wrote:
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> As always, trolls only post those links that fit their arguement. Boring
> and not news to those of us who keep up, so to speak.
>
> Yawn....
>
> Lang

The post wasn't intended for your Geekship but for the newbies that post
here. Live with it.

Alias

Alias wrote:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298
>
> Alias

http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/vistalabels.html

Windows Vista Premium Ready and Vista Capable label fiasco


I have been investigating the Windows Vista labels, and I've posted my
findings here for those who are also interested in learning more about
it. How confusing is it really, and what if any blame does Microsoft
have responsibility for with this situation?

So I have been looking at labels on new computers to see what the labels
actually look like. Here are some pictures:

So, if you read about the class action lawsuit details and know what
it's about:
Windows Vista (In)capable

Then you know that the whole issue is that computers with the "Windows
Vista Capable" label can run Vista, except for the visual effects like
flip 3d and aero. The "Windows Vista" premium ready computers can run it
all. The consumers don't understand the difference, and feel gypped
since some of them bought a Vista capable computer and expected it to
run all Vista features.

So, is this whole issue really so confusing? Well, lots of consumers
seem to feel that way. What else about this is confusing? Well, IMO, the
fact that the "Windows Vista" labels are really the Windows Vista
Premium Ready, then why don't they say plainly "Windows Vista Premium
Ready"? Also, notice the "Windows Vista Basic" label pictured above?
Where does that fit into all of these labels and classifications that
Microsoft has put on Vista computers? What specifically do those labels
mean to consumers? Normally, I would expect that they mean exactly what
they say, that the computers with this label will run Windows Vista
Basic well, and may not run all features of other flavors of Vista, but
honestly, you can't understand what each label means and what any given
computer will handle based on the labels alone because the labels don't
explicitly state the facts and details about any given machine they
appear on. So, no, you can't feel safe taking any of these labels at
face value without any other knowledge.

The way I see it, there are 2 main things that Microsoft has the
responsibility for, caving in to Intel's demands in the first place with
the Vista Capable label for Intel's crappy graphics chipsets, and once
committing to that poor decision, failing to make a reasonable effort of
awareness about the difference between the various labels and what they
mean to resellers, retailers, and consumers. Microsoft alone is not to
blame for this problem, Intel certainly started it all. But Microsoft
needs to get back to treating customers like customers again. Customers
may not always be right, but the customer is the customer, and it
matters how they feel and how they perceive things because ultimately
they pay the bills.

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<> wrote in message
news:47d03e93$0$27883$.. .
> Alias wrote:
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=298
>>
>> Alias
>
> http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/vistalabels.html
>
> Windows Vista Premium Ready and Vista Capable label fiasco
>
>
> I have been investigating the Windows Vista labels, and I've posted my
> findings here for those who are also interested in learning more about it.
> How confusing is it really, and what if any blame does Microsoft have
> responsibility for with this situation?
>
> So I have been looking at labels on new computers to see what the labels
> actually look like. Here are some pictures:
>
> So, if you read about the class action lawsuit details and know what it's
> about:
> Windows Vista (In)capable
>
> Then you know that the whole issue is that computers with the "Windows
> Vista Capable" label can run Vista, except for the visual effects like
> flip 3d and aero. The "Windows Vista" premium ready computers can run it
> all. The consumers don't understand the difference, and feel gypped since
> some of them bought a Vista capable computer and expected it to run all
> Vista features.
>
> So, is this whole issue really so confusing? Well, lots of consumers seem
> to feel that way. What else about this is confusing? Well, IMO, the fact
> that the "Windows Vista" labels are really the Windows Vista Premium
> Ready, then why don't they say plainly "Windows Vista Premium Ready"?
> Also, notice the "Windows Vista Basic" label pictured above? Where does
> that fit into all of these labels and classifications that Microsoft has
> put on Vista computers? What specifically do those labels mean to
> consumers? Normally, I would expect that they mean exactly what they say,
> that the computers with this label will run Windows Vista Basic well, and
> may not run all features of other flavors of Vista, but honestly, you
> can't understand what each label means and what any given computer will
> handle based on the labels alone because the labels don't explicitly state
> the facts and details about any given machine they appear on. So, no, you
> can't feel safe taking any of these labels at face value without any other
> knowledge.
>
> The way I see it, there are 2 main things that Microsoft has the
> responsibility for, caving in to Intel's demands in the first place with
> the Vista Capable label for Intel's crappy graphics chipsets, and once
> committing to that poor decision, failing to make a reasonable effort of
> awareness about the difference between the various labels and what they
> mean to resellers, retailers, and consumers. Microsoft alone is not to
> blame for this problem, Intel certainly started it all. But Microsoft
> needs to get back to treating customers like customers again. Customers
> may not always be right, but the customer is the customer, and it matters
> how they feel and how they perceive things because ultimately they pay the
> bills.
>
> --
> "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free
> speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
> creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
> rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
> - Maura Corbett
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
I agree.
Now I'd like to upgrade from Basic to Premium, but can't due to the graphics
card.