WL9: Sharing Folders vs Skydrive

It seems that you are dropping the sharing folders for a new model.

I never used sharing folders as they were usually too slow and had no
feedback whatsoever on the file transfer. When I want to send a file to
someone, I want that my recipient have the file as soon as possible.
So, because Shared Folders didn't work like this for me, I continued to use
the normal send file. Its not perfect, but at least I can see the file going
and know it the other party received it!
Now, it seems that Sharing folders are going to be replaced with SkyDrive.

That is OK with me. Personally I'm a dropbox fan so I was looking for some
of the features of dropbox with the added functionality of Sharing Folders.
Instead, I found less features, with a very bad integration.

The conversation window has an option for Files with a menu: Publish Files
Online and Send a File of Photo.

The second, is the old send file (good!). The first is a shortcut to the
skydrive.

The problem is, although it allows me share the folder with the contact
(after going a few menus) it does not provide automatic notifications to the
other user (and I have to send a special link with the folder address). So,
skyfire is not a direct replacement of Sharing Folders as it is not directly
connected with messenger. There is only a link to it.
Also, SkyFire limits files to 50M each, which is a big limit for today
standard.

Therefore I ask: What is the road map for messenger file sharing (that is
not only photos, but also music, albums, code, pictures, documents,
presentations...).

after a bit of more using, an update:

It seems that if either party adds a file to the shared folder, a "warning"
appears on top of the conversation window (just under the name and message).
But this i still buggy:
It only appears after login into messenger. So if during a conversation the
file is added it does not show.
The message "Added files to <folder>" also shows how long ago it was (10
minutes ago). This time does not refresh, so it would be more useful if it
showed the local time instead of always showing 10 minutes ago.


"ups" wrote:

> It seems that you are dropping the sharing folders for a new model.
>
> I never used sharing folders as they were usually too slow and had no
> feedback whatsoever on the file transfer. When I want to send a file to
> someone, I want that my recipient have the file as soon as possible.
> So, because Shared Folders didn't work like this for me, I continued to use
> the normal send file. Its not perfect, but at least I can see the file going
> and know it the other party received it!
> Now, it seems that Sharing folders are going to be replaced with SkyDrive.
>
> That is OK with me. Personally I'm a dropbox fan so I was looking for some
> of the features of dropbox with the added functionality of Sharing Folders.
> Instead, I found less features, with a very bad integration.
>
> The conversation window has an option for Files with a menu: Publish Files
> Online and Send a File of Photo.
>
> The second, is the old send file (good!). The first is a shortcut to the
> skydrive.
>
> The problem is, although it allows me share the folder with the contact
> (after going a few menus) it does not provide automatic notifications to the
> other user (and I have to send a special link with the folder address). So,
> skyfire is not a direct replacement of Sharing Folders as it is not directly
> connected with messenger. There is only a link to it.
> Also, SkyFire limits files to 50M each, which is a big limit for today
> standard.
>
> Therefore I ask: What is the road map for messenger file sharing (that is
> not only photos, but also music, albums, code, pictures, documents,
> presentations...).
>
>

"ups" <> wrote in message:
> It only appears after login into messenger. So if during a conversation the
> file is added it does not show.

I think it's linked to the "What's new?" stuff, so it'll refresh eventually (without signing
in again) - but that could be awhile.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--

A long while it seems.. I left the window open all night and it still shows
"10 minutes ago". The other party is offine atm, I wonder if it will refresh
when she sign in, or it will only refresh when I sign in again.



"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> "ups" <> wrote in message:
> > It only appears after login into messenger. So if during a conversation the
> > file is added it does not show.
>
> I think it's linked to the "What's new?" stuff, so it'll refresh eventually (without signing
> in again) - but that could be awhile.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
> --
>
>
>
>

I've been using dropbox and I'm pretty happy with it!

The purpose of my "concern" here is the integration with Messenger.
Simple drag and drop, immediate transfer, and windows notifications are a
must.


"i love vista" wrote:

> forget everything else and use
>
> www.foldershare.com
>
>
> that is now called windows live sync
>
>

As said above, you can use Windows Live Sync (http://sync.live.com), it's
like use a p2p trought the web, you just need to install the client
(available for Mac too), add some folders, tell your friend that install the
client, sync the folder, and you'll be able to share files with your
friend(s).

PD: It doesn't have the 50Mb SkyDrive limit.