WLM Alternatives

Is there a consensus choice for a WLM alternative
(Mail/Newsreader/Calendar)? I guess it depends on exactly what your issue is
with WLM (mine would be lack of quoting capability). But at a minimum I
would need to be able to load my existing (large) Mail database.

And a related question. Can Windows Mail load WLM email (News and Calendar
being less important)?

Thanks.

dave

Dave Lee wrote:

> Is there a consensus choice for a WLM alternative
> (Mail/Newsreader/Calendar)? I guess it depends on exactly what your issue is
> with WLM (mine would be lack of quoting capability). But at a minimum I
> would need to be able to load my existing (large) Mail database.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980534

http://email.about.com/od/windowsliv...ve_Hotmail.htm

http://www.freeemailtutorials.com/wi...rtContacts.htm

and more:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%2B"windows+live+mail"+%2Bexport

On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:19:48 -0500, Dave Lee wrote:

> Is there a consensus choice for a WLM alternative
> (Mail/Newsreader/Calendar)? I guess it depends on exactly what your issue is
> with WLM (mine would be lack of quoting capability). But at a minimum I
> would need to be able to load my existing (large) Mail database.

Mozilla Thunderbird comes to mind; has a Sunbird (calendar) plug-in
available.

> And a related question. Can Windows Mail load WLM email (News and Calendar
> being less important)?

Not sure; I no longer have Windows Vista to play with.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Regarding the 'related question'

Both WLM and WM save email and news files in the same format(*.eml and
*.nws)
The filename for each use the same type of nomenclature...a numerical
filename with an eml or nws extension. (0FBF2F14-00000065.eml or
575360BF-00000064.nws).

Both WLM and WM can open *.eml and *.nws files.

WM was released prior to WLM(its code was frozen in 2006) thus does not
have the ability to import messages from WLM's database.....though WLM eml
and nws messages can be dragged into WM(preferably to a user created folder
in WM) allowing WM to index the messages and rebuild its index and message
store.


These may be of help.
Viewing A Windows Live Mail Message Subject Field in Vista and Windows 7
using Windows Explorer
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2...dows-explorer/


Moving Messages from Windows Live Mail to Vista's Windows Mail
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2...-windows-mail/





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msft mvp mail

"Dave Lee" wrote in message
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Is there a consensus choice for a WLM alternative
(Mail/Newsreader/Calendar)? I guess it depends on exactly what your issue
is
with WLM (mine would be lack of quoting capability). But at a minimum I
would need to be able to load my existing (large) Mail database.

And a related question. Can Windows Mail load WLM email (News and Calendar
being less important)?

Thanks.

dave

On 1/10/2011 6:06 PM, N. Miller wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:19:48 -0500, Dave Lee wrote:
>
>> Is there a consensus choice for a WLM alternative
>> (Mail/Newsreader/Calendar)? I guess it depends on exactly what your issue is
>> with WLM (mine would be lack of quoting capability). But at a minimum I
>> would need to be able to load my existing (large) Mail database.
>
> Mozilla Thunderbird comes to mind; has a Sunbird (calendar) plug-in
> available.

TB wouldn't automatically import mail/news from WLM. I was able to
export it to Outlook and then TB could import it from there. This may
be fixed by now though.

>> And a related question. Can Windows Mail load WLM email (News and Calendar
>> being less important)?
>
> Not sure; I no longer have Windows Vista to play with.

I know that you can go from Windows Mail to WLM but not sure about the
other way. Reason that I went to WLM to begin with was that I was
having problems with Windows Mail (mostly pdf attachments hanging my system)

On 1/11/2011 9:06 AM, Duane Hébert wrote:
> On 1/10/2011 6:06 PM, N. Miller wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:19:48 -0500, Dave Lee wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a consensus choice for a WLM alternative
>>> (Mail/Newsreader/Calendar)? I guess it depends on exactly what your
>>> issue is
>>> with WLM (mine would be lack of quoting capability). But at a minimum I
>>> would need to be able to load my existing (large) Mail database.
>>
>> Mozilla Thunderbird comes to mind; has a Sunbird (calendar) plug-in
>> available.
>
> TB wouldn't automatically import mail/news from WLM. I was able to
> export it to Outlook and then TB could import it from there. This may be
> fixed by now though.

I drag/dropped my WLM eml messages from WLM Local Folders into
Thunderbird, folder-by-folder. It was a bit tedious, and took about 30
minutes. There are other ways to do that. For IMAP accounts, everything
happens auto-magically!

News messages can be handled similarly if you first rename *.nws to
*.eml before dragging to Thunderbird. All my threads and references were
preserved AFAIK.

On 1/11/2011 10:53 AM, Magnus wrote:
> On 1/11/2011 9:06 AM, Duane Hébert wrote:
>> On 1/10/2011 6:06 PM, N. Miller wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:19:48 -0500, Dave Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a consensus choice for a WLM alternative
>>>> (Mail/Newsreader/Calendar)? I guess it depends on exactly what your
>>>> issue is
>>>> with WLM (mine would be lack of quoting capability). But at a minimum I
>>>> would need to be able to load my existing (large) Mail database.
>>>
>>> Mozilla Thunderbird comes to mind; has a Sunbird (calendar) plug-in
>>> available.
>>
>> TB wouldn't automatically import mail/news from WLM. I was able to
>> export it to Outlook and then TB could import it from there. This may be
>> fixed by now though.
>
> I drag/dropped my WLM eml messages from WLM Local Folders into
> Thunderbird, folder-by-folder. It was a bit tedious, and took about 30
> minutes. There are other ways to do that. For IMAP accounts, everything
> happens auto-magically!
>
> News messages can be handled similarly if you first rename *.nws to
> *.eml before dragging to Thunderbird. All my threads and references were
> preserved AFAIK.

It was quicker for me to use Outlook for my mail because my IT guy
forces us to install Outlook. I don't use it but I had it. I have a
lot of business mail, already grouped in folders and such. The trick
with Outlook, is to make it your default, import your stuff from WLM and
then install TBird. TBird lets you import from outlook. But this only
worked for mail. For newsgroups I had to configure each server in TBird
and then add the groups. Your trick for the newsgroups would have been
better for me.

On 1/11/2011 12:45 PM, Duane Hébert wrote:
> On 1/11/2011 10:53 AM, Magnus wrote:
>> On 1/11/2011 9:06 AM, Duane Hébert wrote:
>>> On 1/10/2011 6:06 PM, N. Miller wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:19:48 -0500, Dave Lee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a consensus choice for a WLM alternative
>>>>> (Mail/Newsreader/Calendar)? I guess it depends on exactly what your
>>>>> issue is
>>>>> with WLM (mine would be lack of quoting capability). But at a
>>>>> minimum I
>>>>> would need to be able to load my existing (large) Mail database.
>>>>
>>>> Mozilla Thunderbird comes to mind; has a Sunbird (calendar) plug-in
>>>> available.
>>>
>>> TB wouldn't automatically import mail/news from WLM. I was able to
>>> export it to Outlook and then TB could import it from there. This may be
>>> fixed by now though.
>>
>> I drag/dropped my WLM eml messages from WLM Local Folders into
>> Thunderbird, folder-by-folder. It was a bit tedious, and took about 30
>> minutes. There are other ways to do that. For IMAP accounts, everything
>> happens auto-magically!
>>
>> News messages can be handled similarly if you first rename *.nws to
>> *.eml before dragging to Thunderbird. All my threads and references were
>> preserved AFAIK.
>
> It was quicker for me to use Outlook for my mail because my IT guy
> forces us to install Outlook. I don't use it but I had it. I have a lot
> of business mail, already grouped in folders and such. The trick with
> Outlook, is to make it your default, import your stuff from WLM and then
> install TBird. TBird lets you import from outlook. But this only worked
> for mail. For newsgroups I had to configure each server in TBird and
> then add the groups. Your trick for the newsgroups would have been
> better for me.

Just to be clear... what I did with newsgroup messages was for those I
had copied/stored to WLM's Local Folders.

"Duane Hébert" wrote in message
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On 1/11/2011 10:53 AM, Magnus wrote:
It was quicker for me to use Outlook for my mail because my IT guy
forces us to install Outlook. I don't use it but I had it. I have a
lot of business mail, already grouped in folders and such. The trick
with Outlook, is to make it your default, import your stuff from WLM and
then install TBird. TBird lets you import from outlook. But this only
worked for mail. For newsgroups I had to configure each server in TBird
and then add the groups. Your trick for the newsgroups would have been
better for me.

>
Outlook doesn't import from WLM.
WLM does export to Outlook(using the Exchange option)

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msft mvp mail

On 1/11/2011 1:18 PM, Magnus wrote:
> On 1/11/2011 12:45 PM, Duane Hébert wrote:
>> On 1/11/2011 10:53 AM, Magnus wrote:
>>> On 1/11/2011 9:06 AM, Duane Hébert wrote:
>>>> On 1/10/2011 6:06 PM, N. Miller wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 11:19:48 -0500, Dave Lee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a consensus choice for a WLM alternative
>>>>>> (Mail/Newsreader/Calendar)? I guess it depends on exactly what your
>>>>>> issue is
>>>>>> with WLM (mine would be lack of quoting capability). But at a
>>>>>> minimum I
>>>>>> would need to be able to load my existing (large) Mail database.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mozilla Thunderbird comes to mind; has a Sunbird (calendar) plug-in
>>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> TB wouldn't automatically import mail/news from WLM. I was able to
>>>> export it to Outlook and then TB could import it from there. This
>>>> may be
>>>> fixed by now though.
>>>
>>> I drag/dropped my WLM eml messages from WLM Local Folders into
>>> Thunderbird, folder-by-folder. It was a bit tedious, and took about 30
>>> minutes. There are other ways to do that. For IMAP accounts, everything
>>> happens auto-magically!
>>>
>>> News messages can be handled similarly if you first rename *.nws to
>>> *.eml before dragging to Thunderbird. All my threads and references were
>>> preserved AFAIK.
>>
>> It was quicker for me to use Outlook for my mail because my IT guy
>> forces us to install Outlook. I don't use it but I had it. I have a lot
>> of business mail, already grouped in folders and such. The trick with
>> Outlook, is to make it your default, import your stuff from WLM and then
>> install TBird. TBird lets you import from outlook. But this only worked
>> for mail. For newsgroups I had to configure each server in TBird and
>> then add the groups. Your trick for the newsgroups would have been
>> better for me.
>
> Just to be clear... what I did with newsgroup messages was for those I
> had copied/stored to WLM's Local Folders.

How did you get your contacts to work? I tried exporting to CSV and
importing to TB but that didn't work. The Outlook trick worked ok with
a few tweeks.