WLM strips photos from Forwards

This may have already been addressed here, but I can't find it. Also, this
has nothing to do with that monthly allowance of saving of photos on a server
somewhere and uploading only thumbnails. Here's what happens.

If I receive an e-mail with photos embedded (I guess this would be analagous
to WLM "inline" images), they of course show up on the screen right there
with any text. Now... if I simply hit Forward, put in an e-mail address and
hit Send, that message goes to the Outbox, but without the pictures. An
e-mail that was 200kB coming in becomes one in the 4kB to 12kB range,
indicating that the text is there, but not the photos. NOTE: The Send
Pictures With Message box is indeed checked!

I can right-click on a picture in the original mail, save it to the Desktop,
and then do an Insert/Image/Inline in the forward and everything is fine.
But WLM seems otherwise to be stripping photos out of mail when it is
forwarded. What's going on here?

Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send Pictures
option.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Jim" <> wrote in message
news:E5244B1D-4BD7-4F74-84F5-...
> This may have already been addressed here, but I can't find it. Also,
> this
> has nothing to do with that monthly allowance of saving of photos on a
> server
> somewhere and uploading only thumbnails. Here's what happens.
>
> If I receive an e-mail with photos embedded (I guess this would be
> analagous
> to WLM "inline" images), they of course show up on the screen right
> there
> with any text. Now... if I simply hit Forward, put in an e-mail
> address and
> hit Send, that message goes to the Outbox, but without the pictures.
> An
> e-mail that was 200kB coming in becomes one in the 4kB to 12kB range,
> indicating that the text is there, but not the photos. NOTE: The Send
> Pictures With Message box is indeed checked!
>
> I can right-click on a picture in the original mail, save it to the
> Desktop,
> and then do an Insert/Image/Inline in the forward and everything is
> fine.
> But WLM seems otherwise to be stripping photos out of mail when it is
> forwarded. What's going on here?

Thanks, Mike,

...but sure enough, the box is definitely checked. Again, if I insert
pictures with a command from the toolbar, those photos go through fine. It's
just the photos that are already in the received e-mail that don't go through.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

> Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send Pictures
> option.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Jim" <> wrote in message
> news:E5244B1D-4BD7-4F74-84F5-...
> > This may have already been addressed here, but I can't find it. Also,
> > this
> > has nothing to do with that monthly allowance of saving of photos on a
> > server
> > somewhere and uploading only thumbnails. Here's what happens.
> >
> > If I receive an e-mail with photos embedded (I guess this would be
> > analagous
> > to WLM "inline" images), they of course show up on the screen right
> > there
> > with any text. Now... if I simply hit Forward, put in an e-mail
> > address and
> > hit Send, that message goes to the Outbox, but without the pictures.
> > An
> > e-mail that was 200kB coming in becomes one in the 4kB to 12kB range,
> > indicating that the text is there, but not the photos. NOTE: The Send
> > Pictures With Message box is indeed checked!
> >
> > I can right-click on a picture in the original mail, save it to the
> > Desktop,
> > and then do an Insert/Image/Inline in the forward and everything is
> > fine.
> > But WLM seems otherwise to be stripping photos out of mail when it is
> > forwarded. What's going on here?
>
>
>

Check the message source content of the original email that included the pictures.
I.e. they may point to a server rather than be actually imbedded and thus not forwardable.
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Jim" <> wrote in message news:ED06A6CC-60D2-46F0-AF27-...
> Thanks, Mike,
>
> ...but sure enough, the box is definitely checked. Again, if I insert
> pictures with a command from the toolbar, those photos go through fine. It's
> just the photos that are already in the received e-mail that don't go through.
>
> "Michael Santovec" wrote:
>
>> Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send Pictures
>> option.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jim" <> wrote in message
>> news:E5244B1D-4BD7-4F74-84F5-...
>> > This may have already been addressed here, but I can't find it. Also,
>> > this
>> > has nothing to do with that monthly allowance of saving of photos on a
>> > server
>> > somewhere and uploading only thumbnails. Here's what happens.
>> >
>> > If I receive an e-mail with photos embedded (I guess this would be
>> > analagous
>> > to WLM "inline" images), they of course show up on the screen right
>> > there
>> > with any text. Now... if I simply hit Forward, put in an e-mail
>> > address and
>> > hit Send, that message goes to the Outbox, but without the pictures.
>> > An
>> > e-mail that was 200kB coming in becomes one in the 4kB to 12kB range,
>> > indicating that the text is there, but not the photos. NOTE: The Send
>> > Pictures With Message box is indeed checked!
>> >
>> > I can right-click on a picture in the original mail, save it to the
>> > Desktop,
>> > and then do an Insert/Image/Inline in the forward and everything is
>> > fine.
>> > But WLM seems otherwise to be stripping photos out of mail when it is
>> > forwarded. What's going on here?
>>
>>
>>

Good thought, Winston,

...but the e-mail I received was a forward already, so unless that
sender's ISP strips and holds, I don't think that could be it. Plus, the
incoming e-mail was over 200k, and when forwarded was 4k. This makes me
think the problem is local.

Thanks, though.

"...winston" wrote:

> Check the message source content of the original email that included the pictures.
> I.e. they may point to a server rather than be actually imbedded and thus not forwardable.
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
> "Jim" <> wrote in message news:ED06A6CC-60D2-46F0-AF27-...
> > Thanks, Mike,
> >
> > ...but sure enough, the box is definitely checked. Again, if I insert
> > pictures with a command from the toolbar, those photos go through fine. It's
> > just the photos that are already in the received e-mail that don't go through.
> >
> > "Michael Santovec" wrote:
> >
> >> Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send Pictures
> >> option.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jim" <> wrote in message
> >> news:E5244B1D-4BD7-4F74-84F5-...
> >> > This may have already been addressed here, but I can't find it. Also,
> >> > this
> >> > has nothing to do with that monthly allowance of saving of photos on a
> >> > server
> >> > somewhere and uploading only thumbnails. Here's what happens.
> >> >
> >> > If I receive an e-mail with photos embedded (I guess this would be
> >> > analagous
> >> > to WLM "inline" images), they of course show up on the screen right
> >> > there
> >> > with any text. Now... if I simply hit Forward, put in an e-mail
> >> > address and
> >> > hit Send, that message goes to the Outbox, but without the pictures.
> >> > An
> >> > e-mail that was 200kB coming in becomes one in the 4kB to 12kB range,
> >> > indicating that the text is there, but not the photos. NOTE: The Send
> >> > Pictures With Message box is indeed checked!
> >> >
> >> > I can right-click on a picture in the original mail, save it to the
> >> > Desktop,
> >> > and then do an Insert/Image/Inline in the forward and everything is
> >> > fine.
> >> > But WLM seems otherwise to be stripping photos out of mail when it is
> >> > forwarded. What's going on here?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

If you would like, you may send me the problem messages and I'll take a
look at it. It's best if you zip the message so that I get an exact
copy of it. To do that, do a File, Save As to an EML file of a problem
messages. Include both the original incoming message and the Sent Items
version that you tried to forward. Then Right click the saved EML files
and select Send To, Compressed (zipped) folder. Then e-mail me the
resulting ZIP file.

e-mail:

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Jim" <> wrote in message
news:27D07395-6EEC-4895-AC62-...
> Good thought, Winston,
>
> ...but the e-mail I received was a forward already, so unless that
> sender's ISP strips and holds, I don't think that could be it. Plus,
> the
> incoming e-mail was over 200k, and when forwarded was 4k. This makes
> me
> think the problem is local.
>
> Thanks, though.
>
> "...winston" wrote:
>
>> Check the message source content of the original email that included
>> the pictures.
>> I.e. they may point to a server rather than be actually imbedded and
>> thus not forwardable.
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>>
>> "Jim" <> wrote in message
>> news:ED06A6CC-60D2-46F0-AF27-...
>> > Thanks, Mike,
>> >
>> > ...but sure enough, the box is definitely checked. Again, if I
>> > insert
>> > pictures with a command from the toolbar, those photos go through
>> > fine. It's
>> > just the photos that are already in the received e-mail that don't
>> > go through.
>> >
>> > "Michael Santovec" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send
>> >> Pictures
>> >> option.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Jim" <> wrote in message
>> >> news:E5244B1D-4BD7-4F74-84F5-...
>> >> > This may have already been addressed here, but I can't find it.
>> >> > Also,
>> >> > this
>> >> > has nothing to do with that monthly allowance of saving of
>> >> > photos on a
>> >> > server
>> >> > somewhere and uploading only thumbnails. Here's what happens.
>> >> >
>> >> > If I receive an e-mail with photos embedded (I guess this would
>> >> > be
>> >> > analagous
>> >> > to WLM "inline" images), they of course show up on the screen
>> >> > right
>> >> > there
>> >> > with any text. Now... if I simply hit Forward, put in an e-mail
>> >> > address and
>> >> > hit Send, that message goes to the Outbox, but without the
>> >> > pictures.
>> >> > An
>> >> > e-mail that was 200kB coming in becomes one in the 4kB to 12kB
>> >> > range,
>> >> > indicating that the text is there, but not the photos. NOTE:
>> >> > The Send
>> >> > Pictures With Message box is indeed checked!
>> >> >
>> >> > I can right-click on a picture in the original mail, save it to
>> >> > the
>> >> > Desktop,
>> >> > and then do an Insert/Image/Inline in the forward and everything
>> >> > is
>> >> > fine.
>> >> > But WLM seems otherwise to be stripping photos out of mail when
>> >> > it is
>> >> > forwarded. What's going on here?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

I got the sample message from the original poster and this appears to be
a bug or limitation of Windows Live Mail (WLM).

The MIME multipart/related has two ways of referencing embedded images.

In the problem mail which was forwarded using Outlook 2002, the HTML IMG
tag has:
src=3D"07544401.jpg"

and the MIME header for the referenced embedded image has

Content-Type: image/jpeg;
name="07544401.jpg"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-ID: <002901c911d8$147882a0$ >
Content-Location: 07544401.jpg

The message is using the Content-Location tag to find the image.

The more common HTML IMG tag would instead use the CID
src=3D"CID:002901c911d8$147882a0$65c7a8c0@AlltechL LC.local"
to reference the Content-ID and not even have a Content-Location tag.

WLM doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying incoming messages
using either option. And the message composition window for the forward
doesn't seem to show any problem, but when you go to send the message,
if the reference was to the Content-Location rather than the Content-ID,
WLM generates code for that image as if you had not set the option to
Send Pictures. Image references that used Content-ID get properly
forwarded.

Interestingly enough, Outlook Express 6 (OE6) which WLM is based on,
will properly forward the message that used Content-Location converting
to using the Content-ID in the outgoing message. I'm not sure why WLM
lost that ability.

The Content-Location is intended for mailing web sites (related web
pages, images, etc.) without having to alter the HTML. It would not
normally be used for messages composed in a mail program.

I don't know why Outlook 2002 used the Content-Location rather than the
generally preferred Content-ID. Possibly it's an artifact of Outlook
2002 forwarding the message and might even be dependent on the mail
program that sent the original message to the Outlook 2002 user. I have
some messages from Outlook 2003 that just used the Content-ID and no
Content-Location.

As for workarounds, I don't have any good ones. A quick and dirty one
would be to do a Forward As Attachment. But that requires that the
recipient go through an extra step of opening the attachment to read the
message.

A more tedious option would be to save the message to an EML file and
then edit in Notepad replacing the value of the SRC= tag as the above
example showed. Then double click the EML file and forward that. You
could also drag the EML file to the folder in WLM and delete the
original message and proceed from there.

And if you have OE, it gives a 3rd workaround. You can save the
original message to an EML file, open that EML file in OE, start the
Forward there, then save that message composition to an EML file and
open that EML file in WLM to complete the send. I bit hokey, but less
work than option 2.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
news:eq#...
> If you would like, you may send me the problem messages and I'll take
> a look at it. It's best if you zip the message so that I get an exact
> copy of it. To do that, do a File, Save As to an EML file of a
> problem messages. Include both the original incoming message and the
> Sent Items version that you tried to forward. Then Right click the
> saved EML files and select Send To, Compressed (zipped) folder. Then
> e-mail me the resulting ZIP file.
>
> e-mail:
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Jim" <> wrote in message
> news:27D07395-6EEC-4895-AC62-...
>> Good thought, Winston,
>>
>> ...but the e-mail I received was a forward already, so unless
>> that
>> sender's ISP strips and holds, I don't think that could be it. Plus,
>> the
>> incoming e-mail was over 200k, and when forwarded was 4k. This makes
>> me
>> think the problem is local.
>>
>> Thanks, though.
>>
>> "...winston" wrote:
>>
>>> Check the message source content of the original email that included
>>> the pictures.
>>> I.e. they may point to a server rather than be actually imbedded
>>> and thus not forwardable.
>>> --
>>> ...winston
>>> ms-mvp mail
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jim" <> wrote in message
>>> news:ED06A6CC-60D2-46F0-AF27-...
>>> > Thanks, Mike,
>>> >
>>> > ...but sure enough, the box is definitely checked. Again, if
>>> > I insert
>>> > pictures with a command from the toolbar, those photos go through
>>> > fine. It's
>>> > just the photos that are already in the received e-mail that don't
>>> > go through.
>>> >
>>> > "Michael Santovec" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send
>>> >> Pictures
>>> >> option.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >>
>>> >> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Jim" <> wrote in message
>>> >> news:E5244B1D-4BD7-4F74-84F5-...
>>> >> > This may have already been addressed here, but I can't find it.
>>> >> > Also,
>>> >> > this
>>> >> > has nothing to do with that monthly allowance of saving of
>>> >> > photos on a
>>> >> > server
>>> >> > somewhere and uploading only thumbnails. Here's what happens.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If I receive an e-mail with photos embedded (I guess this would
>>> >> > be
>>> >> > analagous
>>> >> > to WLM "inline" images), they of course show up on the screen
>>> >> > right
>>> >> > there
>>> >> > with any text. Now... if I simply hit Forward, put in an
>>> >> > e-mail
>>> >> > address and
>>> >> > hit Send, that message goes to the Outbox, but without the
>>> >> > pictures.
>>> >> > An
>>> >> > e-mail that was 200kB coming in becomes one in the 4kB to 12kB
>>> >> > range,
>>> >> > indicating that the text is there, but not the photos. NOTE:
>>> >> > The Send
>>> >> > Pictures With Message box is indeed checked!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I can right-click on a picture in the original mail, save it to
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > Desktop,
>>> >> > and then do an Insert/Image/Inline in the forward and
>>> >> > everything is
>>> >> > fine.
>>> >> > But WLM seems otherwise to be stripping photos out of mail when
>>> >> > it is
>>> >> > forwarded. What's going on here?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>

When I receive a message with an active hyperlink, and then try to forward it, the hyperlink converts to plain text.
When I check the format, the message is now in Plain TEXT rather that HTML. I can then change the forwarded message to HTLM and then reactivate the hyperlink.
The SEND format option is set to HTML.

Any help on leaving the original message in HTML when forwarding would be appreciated. The source of the message in question is gmail.com

HMZ



Michael Santovec wrote:

I got the sample message from the original poster and this appears to be a bug
11-Sep-08

I got the sample message from the original poster and this appears to be
a bug or limitation of Windows Live Mail (WLM)

The MIME multipart/related has two ways of referencing embedded images

In the problem mail which was forwarded using Outlook 2002, the HTML IM
tag has
src=3D"07544401.jpg

and the MIME header for the referenced embedded image ha

Content-Type: image/jpeg
name="07544401.jpg
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base6
Content-ID: <002901c911d8$147882a0$
Content-Location: 07544401.jp

The message is using the Content-Location tag to find the image

The more common HTML IMG tag would instead use the CI
src=3D"CID:002901c911d8$147882a0$65c7a8c0@AlltechL LC.local
to reference the Content-ID and not even have a Content-Location tag

WLM doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying incoming message
using either option. And the message composition window for the forwar
doesn't seem to show any problem, but when you go to send the message
if the reference was to the Content-Location rather than the Content-ID
WLM generates code for that image as if you had not set the option t
Send Pictures. Image references that used Content-ID get properl
forwarded

Interestingly enough, Outlook Express 6 (OE6) which WLM is based on
will properly forward the message that used Content-Location convertin
to using the Content-ID in the outgoing message. I'm not sure why WLM
lost that ability

The Content-Location is intended for mailing web sites (related we
pages, images, etc.) without having to alter the HTML. It would no
normally be used for messages composed in a mail program

I don't know why Outlook 2002 used the Content-Location rather than th
generally preferred Content-ID. Possibly it's an artifact of Outloo
2002 forwarding the message and might even be dependent on the mai
program that sent the original message to the Outlook 2002 user. I hav
some messages from Outlook 2003 that just used the Content-ID and n
Content-Location

As for workarounds, I don't have any good ones. A quick and dirty on
would be to do a Forward As Attachment. But that requires that th
recipient go through an extra step of opening the attachment to read th
message

A more tedious option would be to save the message to an EML file an
then edit in Notepad replacing the value of the SRC= tag as the abov
example showed. Then double click the EML file and forward that. Yo
could also drag the EML file to the folder in WLM and delete th
original message and proceed from there

And if you have OE, it gives a 3rd workaround. You can save th
original message to an EML file, open that EML file in OE, start th
Forward there, then save that message composition to an EML file an
open that EML file in WLM to complete the send. I bit hokey, but les
work than option 2

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.ht


"Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
news:eq#...

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Monday, September 08, 2008 8:41 PM
Ji wrote:

WLM strips photos from Forwards
This may have already been addressed here, but I can't find it. Also, this
has nothing to do with that monthly allowance of saving of photos on a server
somewhere and uploading only thumbnails. Here's what happens

If I receive an e-mail with photos embedded (I guess this would be analagous
to WLM "inline" images), they of course show up on the screen right there
with any text. Now... if I simply hit Forward, put in an e-mail address and
hit Send, that message goes to the Outbox, but without the pictures. An
e-mail that was 200kB coming in becomes one in the 4kB to 12kB range,
indicating that the text is there, but not the photos. NOTE: The Send
Pictures With Message box is indeed checked!

I can right-click on a picture in the original mail, save it to the Desktop,
and then do an Insert/Image/Inline in the forward and everything is fine.
But WLM seems otherwise to be stripping photos out of mail when it is
forwarded. What's going on here?

On Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:14 PM
Michael Santovec wrote:

Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send Pictures option.
Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send Pictures
option.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm

On Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:36 PM
Ji wrote:

Thanks, Mike, ...but sure enough, the box is definitely checked.
Thanks, Mike,

...but sure enough, the box is definitely checked. Again, if I insert
pictures with a command from the toolbar, those photos go through fine. It's
just the photos that are already in the received e-mail that don't go through.

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

On Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:52 AM
....winston wrote:

Check the message source content of the original email that included the
Check the message source content of the original email that included the pictures.
I.e. they may point to a server rather than be actually imbedded and thus not forwardable.
--
....winston
ms-mvp mail

On Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:26 PM
Ji wrote:

Good thought, Winston, ...
Good thought, Winston,

...but the e-mail I received was a forward already, so unless that
sender's ISP strips and holds, I don't think that could be it. Plus, the
incoming e-mail was over 200k, and when forwarded was 4k. This makes me
think the problem is local.

Thanks, though.

"...winston" wrote:

On Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:37 PM
Michael Santovec wrote:

If you would like, you may send me the problem messages and I'll take a look
If you would like, you may send me the problem messages and I'll take a
look at it. It's best if you zip the message so that I get an exact
copy of it. To do that, do a File, Save As to an EML file of a problem
messages. Include both the original incoming message and the Sent Items
version that you tried to forward. Then Right click the saved EML files
and select Send To, Compressed (zipped) folder. Then e-mail me the
resulting ZIP file.

e-mail:

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Jim" <> wrote in message
news:27D07395-6EEC-4895-AC62-...

On Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:54 PM
Michael Santovec wrote:

I got the sample message from the original poster and this appears to be a bug
I got the sample message from the original poster and this appears to be
a bug or limitation of Windows Live Mail (WLM).

The MIME multipart/related has two ways of referencing embedded images.

In the problem mail which was forwarded using Outlook 2002, the HTML IMG
tag has:
src=3D"07544401.jpg"

and the MIME header for the referenced embedded image has

Content-Type: image/jpeg;
name="07544401.jpg"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-ID: <002901c911d8$147882a0$ >
Content-Location: 07544401.jpg

The message is using the Content-Location tag to find the image.

The more common HTML IMG tag would instead use the CID
src=3D"CID:002901c911d8$147882a0$65c7a8c0@AlltechL LC.local"
to reference the Content-ID and not even have a Content-Location tag.

WLM doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying incoming messages
using either option. And the message composition window for the forward
doesn't seem to show any problem, but when you go to send the message,
if the reference was to the Content-Location rather than the Content-ID,
WLM generates code for that image as if you had not set the option to
Send Pictures. Image references that used Content-ID get properly
forwarded.

Interestingly enough, Outlook Express 6 (OE6) which WLM is based on,
will properly forward the message that used Content-Location converting
to using the Content-ID in the outgoing message. I'm not sure why WLM
lost that ability.

The Content-Location is intended for mailing web sites (related web
pages, images, etc.) without having to alter the HTML. It would not
normally be used for messages composed in a mail program.

I don't know why Outlook 2002 used the Content-Location rather than the
generally preferred Content-ID. Possibly it's an artifact of Outlook
2002 forwarding the message and might even be dependent on the mail
program that sent the original message to the Outlook 2002 user. I have
some messages from Outlook 2003 that just used the Content-ID and no
Content-Location.

As for workarounds, I don't have any good ones. A quick and dirty one
would be to do a Forward As Attachment. But that requires that the
recipient go through an extra step of opening the attachment to read the
message.

A more tedious option would be to save the message to an EML file and
then edit in Notepad replacing the value of the SRC= tag as the above
example showed. Then double click the EML file and forward that. You
could also drag the EML file to the folder in WLM and delete the
original message and proceed from there.

And if you have OE, it gives a 3rd workaround. You can save the
original message to an EML file, open that EML file in OE, start the
Forward there, then save that message composition to an EML file and
open that EML file in WLM to complete the send. I bit hokey, but less
work than option 2.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
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Tools, Options, Send, check Reply to messages in the format is which they
were sent.
--
Ron Sommer
MS MVP-Mail

"herb zydney" wrote in message news:...
> When I receive a message with an active hyperlink, and then try to forward
> it, the hyperlink converts to plain text.
> When I check the format, the message is now in Plain TEXT rather that
> HTML. I can then change the forwarded message to HTLM and then reactivate
> the hyperlink.
> The SEND format option is set to HTML.
>
> Any help on leaving the original message in HTML when forwarding would be
> appreciated. The source of the message in question is gmail.com
>
> HMZ
>
>
>
> Michael Santovec wrote:
>
> I got the sample message from the original poster and this appears to be a
> bug
> 11-Sep-08
>
> I got the sample message from the original poster and this appears to be
> a bug or limitation of Windows Live Mail (WLM).
>
> The MIME multipart/related has two ways of referencing embedded images.
>
> In the problem mail which was forwarded using Outlook 2002, the HTML IMG
> tag has:
> src=3D"07544401.jpg"
>
> and the MIME header for the referenced embedded image has
>
> Content-Type: image/jpeg;
> name="07544401.jpg"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-ID: <002901c911d8$147882a0$ >
> Content-Location: 07544401.jpg
>
> The message is using the Content-Location tag to find the image.
>
> The more common HTML IMG tag would instead use the CID
> src=3D"CID:002901c911d8$147882a0$65c7a8c0@AlltechL LC.local"
> to reference the Content-ID and not even have a Content-Location tag.
>
> WLM doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying incoming messages
> using either option. And the message composition window for the forward
> doesn't seem to show any problem, but when you go to send the message,
> if the reference was to the Content-Location rather than the Content-ID,
> WLM generates code for that image as if you had not set the option to
> Send Pictures. Image references that used Content-ID get properly
> forwarded.
>
> Interestingly enough, Outlook Express 6 (OE6) which WLM is based on,
> will properly forward the message that used Content-Location converting
> to using the Content-ID in the outgoing message. I'm not sure why WLM
> lost that ability.
>
> The Content-Location is intended for mailing web sites (related web
> pages, images, etc.) without having to alter the HTML. It would not
> normally be used for messages composed in a mail program.
>
> I don't know why Outlook 2002 used the Content-Location rather than the
> generally preferred Content-ID. Possibly it's an artifact of Outlook
> 2002 forwarding the message and might even be dependent on the mail
> program that sent the original message to the Outlook 2002 user. I have
> some messages from Outlook 2003 that just used the Content-ID and no
> Content-Location.
>
> As for workarounds, I don't have any good ones. A quick and dirty one
> would be to do a Forward As Attachment. But that requires that the
> recipient go through an extra step of opening the attachment to read the
> message.
>
> A more tedious option would be to save the message to an EML file and
> then edit in Notepad replacing the value of the SRC= tag as the above
> example showed. Then double click the EML file and forward that. You
> could also drag the EML file to the folder in WLM and delete the
> original message and proceed from there.
>
> And if you have OE, it gives a 3rd workaround. You can save the
> original message to an EML file, open that EML file in OE, start the
> Forward there, then save that message composition to an EML file and
> open that EML file in WLM to complete the send. I bit hokey, but less
> work than option 2.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
> news:eq#...
>
> Previous Posts In This Thread:
>
> On Monday, September 08, 2008 8:41 PM
> Ji wrote:
>
> WLM strips photos from Forwards
> This may have already been addressed here, but I can't find it. Also,
> this
> has nothing to do with that monthly allowance of saving of photos on a
> server
> somewhere and uploading only thumbnails. Here's what happens.
>
> If I receive an e-mail with photos embedded (I guess this would be
> analagous
> to WLM "inline" images), they of course show up on the screen right there
> with any text. Now... if I simply hit Forward, put in an e-mail address
> and
> hit Send, that message goes to the Outbox, but without the pictures. An
> e-mail that was 200kB coming in becomes one in the 4kB to 12kB range,
> indicating that the text is there, but not the photos. NOTE: The Send
> Pictures With Message box is indeed checked!
>
> I can right-click on a picture in the original mail, save it to the
> Desktop,
> and then do an Insert/Image/Inline in the forward and everything is fine.
> But WLM seems otherwise to be stripping photos out of mail when it is
> forwarded. What's going on here?
>
> On Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:14 PM
> Michael Santovec wrote:
>
> Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send Pictures
> option.
> Tools, Options, Send, Mail, HTML Settings. Check the Send Pictures
> option.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
> On Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:36 PM
> Ji wrote:
>
> Thanks, Mike, ...but sure enough, the box is definitely checked.
> Thanks, Mike,
>
> ...but sure enough, the box is definitely checked. Again, if I insert
> pictures with a command from the toolbar, those photos go through fine.
> It's
> just the photos that are already in the received e-mail that don't go
> through.
>
> "Michael Santovec" wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:52 AM
> ...winston wrote:
>
> Check the message source content of the original email that included the
> Check the message source content of the original email that included the
> pictures.
> I.e. they may point to a server rather than be actually imbedded and thus
> not forwardable.
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:26 PM
> Ji wrote:
>
> Good thought, Winston, ...
> Good thought, Winston,
>
> ...but the e-mail I received was a forward already, so unless that
> sender's ISP strips and holds, I don't think that could be it. Plus, the
> incoming e-mail was over 200k, and when forwarded was 4k. This makes me
> think the problem is local.
>
> Thanks, though.
>
> "...winston" wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:37 PM
> Michael Santovec wrote:
>
> If you would like, you may send me the problem messages and I'll take a
> look
> If you would like, you may send me the problem messages and I'll take a
> look at it. It's best if you zip the message so that I get an exact
> copy of it. To do that, do a File, Save As to an EML file of a problem
> messages. Include both the original incoming message and the Sent Items
> version that you tried to forward. Then Right click the saved EML files
> and select Send To, Compressed (zipped) folder. Then e-mail me the
> resulting ZIP file.
>
> e-mail:
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Jim" <> wrote in message
> news:27D07395-6EEC-4895-AC62-...
>
> On Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:54 PM
> Michael Santovec wrote:
>
> I got the sample message from the original poster and this appears to be a
> bug
> I got the sample message from the original poster and this appears to be
> a bug or limitation of Windows Live Mail (WLM).
>
> The MIME multipart/related has two ways of referencing embedded images.
>
> In the problem mail which was forwarded using Outlook 2002, the HTML IMG
> tag has:
> src=3D"07544401.jpg"
>
> and the MIME header for the referenced embedded image has
>
> Content-Type: image/jpeg;
> name="07544401.jpg"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-ID: <002901c911d8$147882a0$ >
> Content-Location: 07544401.jpg
>
> The message is using the Content-Location tag to find the image.
>
> The more common HTML IMG tag would instead use the CID
> src=3D"CID:002901c911d8$147882a0$65c7a8c0@AlltechL LC.local"
> to reference the Content-ID and not even have a Content-Location tag.
>
> WLM doesn't seem to have a problem with displaying incoming messages
> using either option. And the message composition window for the forward
> doesn't seem to show any problem, but when you go to send the message,
> if the reference was to the Content-Location rather than the Content-ID,
> WLM generates code for that image as if you had not set the option to
> Send Pictures. Image references that used Content-ID get properly
> forwarded.
>
> Interestingly enough, Outlook Express 6 (OE6) which WLM is based on,
> will properly forward the message that used Content-Location converting
> to using the Content-ID in the outgoing message. I'm not sure why WLM
> lost that ability.
>
> The Content-Location is intended for mailing web sites (related web
> pages, images, etc.) without having to alter the HTML. It would not
> normally be used for messages composed in a mail program.
>
> I don't know why Outlook 2002 used the Content-Location rather than the
> generally preferred Content-ID. Possibly it's an artifact of Outlook
> 2002 forwarding the message and might even be dependent on the mail
> program that sent the original message to the Outlook 2002 user. I have
> some messages from Outlook 2003 that just used the Content-ID and no
> Content-Location.
>
> As for workarounds, I don't have any good ones. A quick and dirty one
> would be to do a Forward As Attachment. But that requires that the
> recipient go through an extra step of opening the attachment to read the
> message.
>
> A more tedious option would be to save the message to an EML file and
> then edit in Notepad replacing the value of the SRC= tag as the above
> example showed. Then double click the EML file and forward that. You
> could also drag the EML file to the folder in WLM and delete the
> original message and proceed from there.
>
> And if you have OE, it gives a 3rd workaround. You can save the
> original message to an EML file, open that EML file in OE, start the
> Forward there, then save that message composition to an EML file and
> open that EML file in WLM to complete the send. I bit hokey, but less
> work than option 2.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Michael Santovec" <> wrote in message
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>
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