Word files corrupted on memory sticks

Vista SP1, Word 2003

If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on my
Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message saying
the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover the
document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick.

If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make changes
all is well.

I work as a teacher in a small school and 3 of my colleagues have reported
the same issue. All use Vista, Word 2003, but different makes of laptop. We
have tried using new/different memory sticks but the problem continues. Our
XP desktops are unaffected.

Regards, Anastas.

"Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Vista SP1, Word 2003
>
> If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on
> my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message
> saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover
> the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick.
>
> If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make changes
> all is well.
>

And you don't see the pattern here?

Thanks for the reply.

> And try changing current setting, there should be at least 2 options
> listed:
> a) Optimize ffor quick removal
> b) Optimize for performance.

Which of these two should I choose?

I hope you are not *driving* the car whilst on your mobile device ;-)

Anastas.
"JEWboy" <> wrote in message
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> Ignore Gordon is a registered idiot.
>
> Now do this, when USBstick is inserted/recognized, goto DeviceManager-->
> find it there, rightclick or somehow get to its properties.
> In properties select one of the tabs (don't remember which - is it
> "POLICIES"?).
> And try changing current setting, there should be at least 2 options
> listed:
> a) Optimize ffor quick removal
> b) Optimize for performance.
>
> If you can't change (option is dimmed), then out of luck, this drive is
> pre-set for certain policy.
> Ok then try doing what you did with OTHER file typoes, e.g. JPG's
> pictures.
>
> I had repeated failures with PNY USB sticks, until I got so anrgy, I trhew
> out $200 worth of 2 sticks, not even complaining to PNY cuz it takes
> agaes, blacklisted PNY and started using an small external USB HARDDISK
> (NOT flashmemory, bu tharddisk) - it works perfectly, downside is I've
> been using USBsticks for several years, due to size, compare to bulky
> harddisk, but I dont have time to find explanation for corruption.
>
> it happens with certain USB manufacturers, are your sticks PNY?
> if not... try USB harddisk, not flash memory, but first off try changing
> disk wiritng Policy (caching) in Device Manager I explaiend on top of this
> article.
> yeah my spelling is insane but I am in a car, on mobile device.....
> bye
>
> Waqit did you say it doesn't happen on WindowsXP? XP is a more mature
> serious OS, than Vista.
> maybe you could try in Vista turning off Packet Windows Autotuning, maybe
> you'r etrying USbsticks from the same CHEAP. manufacturer
>
> My working and best sticks were made by CORSAIR or KINGSTON. Kingston is
> best for that, Corsair is best for RAM, not Flashmemory.

"Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Thanks for the reply.
>
>> And try changing current setting, there should be at least 2 options
>> listed:
>> a) Optimize ffor quick removal
>> b) Optimize for performance.
>
> Which of these two should I choose?
>

Neither. If you'd bothered to post in a WORD group you would have been told
"never edit a Word document on a removable device".
That is why they are being corrupted. DON'T DO IT!!!!

"Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
news:#...
> Thanks for the reply.

And do not listen to JEWboy - the man's an ignoramus and obviously knows
nothing about Word....

"Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Vista SP1, Word 2003
>
> If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on
> my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message
> saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover
> the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick.
>
> If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make changes
> all is well.
>
> I work as a teacher in a small school and 3 of my colleagues have reported
> the same issue. All use Vista, Word 2003, but different makes of laptop.
> We have tried using new/different memory sticks but the problem continues.
> Our XP desktops are unaffected.
>
> Regards, Anastas.
>


You should never rely on a flash device as the primary storage media for any
changed file.

If you open the file in Word it will create a temporary file to the location
that the file was opened from, in your case a flash drive. This is what is
getting corrupted.

Flash drives have a limited read and write cycle life and while this is not
the reason you get file corruption (which can be caused by any number of
reasons) it is better to always save to a hard drive locally then open, make
corrections and save locally then copy back to the flash drive. Yes it is a
PIA but it is much more reliable. A simple batch file to copy the files to
a fixed location, pause to allow Word to process the files and save back to
the local location and then a copy back is what I use to transfer and copy
files from one location to another.

An example would be:

@echo off
xcopy X:\transfer\*.* C:\transfer /e /c /y /r
pause This is where you start Word and edit
and save the files. When word is closed press any key to copy back to flash
xcopy C:\transfer\*.* X:\transfer /e /c /y /r
exit



X:\ would be your flash drive's drive letter and "Transfer" would be the
folder name where the files to change would be placed and retrieved from.

Gordon,

Thank you for your help. Makes sense not to edit Word Documents on a memory
stick. I will share your advice with my colleagues.

Anastas.
"Gordon" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>> Thanks for the reply.
>
> And do not listen to JEWboy - the man's an ignoramus and obviously knows
> nothing about Word....
>
>

Thanks for the the reply LVTravel

Regards, Anastas
"LVTravel" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
>
> "Mikoyan" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Vista SP1, Word 2003
>>
>> If I copy a file from another PC to my USB memory stick, then open it on
>> my Vista laptop, make some changes and click save I get an error message
>> saying the file is now G:\~[134].tmp and is corrupted. I cannot recover
>> the document, and it disappears entirely from the memory stick.
>>
>> If I copy the document directly to my laptop hard drive, then make
>> changes all is well.
>>
>> I work as a teacher in a small school and 3 of my colleagues have
>> reported the same issue. All use Vista, Word 2003, but different makes of
>> laptop. We have tried using new/different memory sticks but the problem
>> continues. Our XP desktops are unaffected.
>>
>> Regards, Anastas.
>>
>
>
> You should never rely on a flash device as the primary storage media for
> any changed file.
>
> If you open the file in Word it will create a temporary file to the
> location that the file was opened from, in your case a flash drive. This
> is what is getting corrupted.
>
> Flash drives have a limited read and write cycle life and while this is
> not the reason you get file corruption (which can be caused by any number
> of reasons) it is better to always save to a hard drive locally then open,
> make corrections and save locally then copy back to the flash drive. Yes
> it is a PIA but it is much more reliable. A simple batch file to copy the
> files to a fixed location, pause to allow Word to process the files and
> save back to the local location and then a copy back is what I use to
> transfer and copy files from one location to another.
>
> An example would be:
>
> @echo off
> xcopy X:\transfer\*.* C:\transfer /e /c /y /r
> pause This is where you start Word and edit
> and save the files. When word is closed press any key to copy back to
> flash
> xcopy C:\transfer\*.* X:\transfer /e /c /y /r
> exit
>
>
>
> X:\ would be your flash drive's drive letter and "Transfer" would be the
> folder name where the files to change would be placed and retrieved from.

Ignore Gordon is a registered idiot.

Now do this, when USBstick is inserted/recognized, goto DeviceManager-->
find it there, rightclick or somehow get to its properties.
In properties select one of the tabs (don't remember which - is it
"POLICIES"?).
And try changing current setting, there should be at least 2 options listed:
a) Optimize ffor quick removal
b) Optimize for performance.

If you can't change (option is dimmed), then out of luck, this drive is
pre-set for certain policy.
Ok then try doing what you did with OTHER file typoes, e.g. JPG's pictures.

I had repeated failures with PNY USB sticks, until I got so anrgy, I trhew
out $200 worth of 2 sticks, not even complaining to PNY cuz it takes agaes,
blacklisted PNY and started using an small external USB HARDDISK (NOT
flashmemory, bu tharddisk) - it works perfectly, downside is I've been using
USBsticks for several years, due to size, compare to bulky harddisk, but I
dont have time to find explanation for corruption.

it happens with certain USB manufacturers, are your sticks PNY?
if not... try USB harddisk, not flash memory, but first off try changing
disk wiritng Policy (caching) in Device Manager I explaiend on top of this
article.
yeah my spelling is insane but I am in a car, on mobile device.....
bye

Waqit did you say it doesn't happen on WindowsXP? XP is a more mature
serious OS, than Vista.
maybe you could try in Vista turning off Packet Windows Autotuning, maybe
you'r etrying USbsticks from the same CHEAP. manufacturer

My working and best sticks were made by CORSAIR or KINGSTON. Kingston is
best for that, Corsair is best for RAM, not Flashmemory.

"JEWboy" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Ignore Gordon is a registered idiot.
>

....and you're a registered moronic troll.
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