Would like to remove Vista & install XP

We recently pruchased (3/07) a new Gateway desktop with Vista on it. Vista
has been nothing but problems. My wife's employer had the same issue. They
were given copies of XP for 1 cent to replace Vista. Any idea if that
applies to home computers? We've spent hours on fixes because of Vista.

Which Vista Edition did your Gateway come preinstalled with?

Previously posted by Carey Frisch [MVP]
Sure, if you have your own Windows XP installation CD and Windows XP product
key that is not in use. Otherwise, the Windows Vista Home Premium version
does not confer downgrade rights. Please see:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf

What type of problems are you experiencing with Windows Vista? You never
know, we might be able to help you fix it.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"John Mc" <John > wrote in message
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> We recently pruchased (3/07) a new Gateway desktop with Vista on it.
> Vista
> has been nothing but problems. My wife's employer had the same issue.
> They
> were given copies of XP for 1 cent to replace Vista. Any idea if that
> applies to home computers? We've spent hours on fixes because of Vista.

It takes about 20 to 30 "clicks" on our webrowser to engage the internent; we
often lose word documents, other incompatability issues. I have already
re-loaded Vista due to these issues from the operating systems disk supplied
with the computer when we purchased it. In total have spent about 15 hours
on fixes. We do not have a Windows XP CD or product key that is not in use.
I really don't want to have to buy XP and feel Microsoft should suppy it for
a reduced cost at least if not free. There are just so many problems with
Vista. I recently spoke with Microsoft directly. The tech admitted that
Vista was not ready for release when we purchased this computer and regretted
she could not help me futher. We have Windows Vista Home Premium. Any other
thoughts on this matter would be appreciated.

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:

> Which Vista Edition did your Gateway come preinstalled with?
>
> Previously posted by Carey Frisch [MVP]
> Sure, if you have your own Windows XP installation CD and Windows XP product
> key that is not in use. Otherwise, the Windows Vista Home Premium version
> does not confer downgrade rights. Please see:
> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf
>
> What type of problems are you experiencing with Windows Vista? You never
> know, we might be able to help you fix it.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "John Mc" <John > wrote in message
> news2A1C870-ADC0-4B05-AA35-...
> > We recently pruchased (3/07) a new Gateway desktop with Vista on it.
> > Vista
> > has been nothing but problems. My wife's employer had the same issue.
> > They
> > were given copies of XP for 1 cent to replace Vista. Any idea if that
> > applies to home computers? We've spent hours on fixes because of Vista.
>
>
>

John Mc wrote:
> We recently pruchased (3/07) a new Gateway desktop with Vista on it. Vista
> has been nothing but problems. My wife's employer had the same issue. They
> were given copies of XP for 1 cent to replace Vista. Any idea if that
> applies to home computers? We've spent hours on fixes because of Vista.

Take the new computer back and demand a refund. If you think they may
give you problems, go when you know there will be a lot of customers
present and make your request in a loud, but polite, voice. Then find a
computer store that will sell you a computer with XP and one who will
provide you with a XP and drivers CD, not a restore disk or XP on a
hidden partition. Usually, small computer shops that build to order will
do this. Gateway, Dell et al, are sh¡t computers that come with hidden
partitions and all kinds of crap-ware bundled in with it.

Good luck!

Alias

What is causing the requirement for 20 to 30 clicks to 'engage' with your
web browser? I have Windows Vista installed on 3 computers and all I do is
double click Internet Explorer icon on the desktop when I am surfing on any
of them, it opens Google.com as the default home page, if I want to go
somewhere I click in the address bar and type the desired URL, if I don't
want to leave a specific web page, I simply open a new Tab and type in a new
URL. What in that requires 20 to 30 clicks? I do understand you might be
required to download new or updated plug ins.

The only thing I can think of that could require so many clicks is if
someone was surfing sites that intentially try to force drive by downloads.
Sometimes the OEMs themselves install additional freeware or shareware
programs that install plug ins that can cause all kind of havoc.

Could you be a bit more specific on what the fixes are that required 15
hours of your time? What are the problems with Vista that are so many, is
user interface related, application compatibility, hardware compatibility?
We can't help you if you don't tell us whats really going on, that is what
these newsgroups are setup for, to help you fix the problems.

As for downgrading XP, since its an OEM copy of Windows Vista, the chance of
getting your licensed changed for Windows XP is really up to the OEM, not
Microsoft in this case. I would suggest you contact Gateway if your machine
is still under warranty about the possibility of this happening.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"John Mc" <> wrote in message
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> It takes about 20 to 30 "clicks" on our webrowser to engage the internent;
> we
> often lose word documents, other incompatability issues. I have already
> re-loaded Vista due to these issues from the operating systems disk
> supplied
> with the computer when we purchased it. In total have spent about 15
> hours
> on fixes. We do not have a Windows XP CD or product key that is not in
> use.
> I really don't want to have to buy XP and feel Microsoft should suppy it
> for
> a reduced cost at least if not free. There are just so many problems with
> Vista. I recently spoke with Microsoft directly. The tech admitted that
> Vista was not ready for release when we purchased this computer and
> regretted
> she could not help me futher. We have Windows Vista Home Premium. Any
> other
> thoughts on this matter would be appreciated.
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>
>> Which Vista Edition did your Gateway come preinstalled with?
>>
>> Previously posted by Carey Frisch [MVP]
>> Sure, if you have your own Windows XP installation CD and Windows XP
>> product
>> key that is not in use. Otherwise, the Windows Vista Home Premium
>> version
>> does not confer downgrade rights. Please see:
>> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...rencesheet.pdf
>>
>> What type of problems are you experiencing with Windows Vista? You never
>> know, we might be able to help you fix it.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "John Mc" <John > wrote in message
>> news2A1C870-ADC0-4B05-AA35-...
>> > We recently pruchased (3/07) a new Gateway desktop with Vista on it.
>> > Vista
>> > has been nothing but problems. My wife's employer had the same issue.
>> > They
>> > were given copies of XP for 1 cent to replace Vista. Any idea if that
>> > applies to home computers? We've spent hours on fixes because of Vista.
>>
>>
>>

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:

> What type of problems are you experiencing with Windows Vista? You never
> know, we might be able to help you fix it.

LOL! And pigs fly, right?

Alias

Alias,

Thanks for the advice. I purchased the computer directly from Gateway - it
is custom. Looks like I'm in for a battle. Microsoft seems to have such a
monoploy these days.

"Alias" wrote:

> John Mc wrote:
> > We recently pruchased (3/07) a new Gateway desktop with Vista on it. Vista
> > has been nothing but problems. My wife's employer had the same issue. They
> > were given copies of XP for 1 cent to replace Vista. Any idea if that
> > applies to home computers? We've spent hours on fixes because of Vista.
>
> Take the new computer back and demand a refund. If you think they may
> give you problems, go when you know there will be a lot of customers
> present and make your request in a loud, but polite, voice. Then find a
> computer store that will sell you a computer with XP and one who will
> provide you with a XP and drivers CD, not a restore disk or XP on a
> hidden partition. Usually, small computer shops that build to order will
> do this. Gateway, Dell et al, are sh¡t computers that come with hidden
> partitions and all kinds of crap-ware bundled in with it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Alias
>

Microsoft has nothing to do with your problems. Its a name brand computer
built and manufactured by Gateway, they are the ones responsible for
configuring and testing the system before it was shipped to you. If there is
anybody to have issue with here it is most certainly Gateway.

You still have not even put into detail what type of problems you are having
with Vista on your Gateway.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"John Mc" <> wrote in message
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> Alias,
>
> Thanks for the advice. I purchased the computer directly from Gateway -
> it
> is custom. Looks like I'm in for a battle. Microsoft seems to have such
> a
> monoploy these days.
>
> "Alias" wrote:
>
>> John Mc wrote:
>> > We recently pruchased (3/07) a new Gateway desktop with Vista on it.
>> > Vista
>> > has been nothing but problems. My wife's employer had the same issue.
>> > They
>> > were given copies of XP for 1 cent to replace Vista. Any idea if that
>> > applies to home computers? We've spent hours on fixes because of Vista.
>>
>> Take the new computer back and demand a refund. If you think they may
>> give you problems, go when you know there will be a lot of customers
>> present and make your request in a loud, but polite, voice. Then find a
>> computer store that will sell you a computer with XP and one who will
>> provide you with a XP and drivers CD, not a restore disk or XP on a
>> hidden partition. Usually, small computer shops that build to order will
>> do this. Gateway, Dell et al, are sh¡t computers that come with hidden
>> partitions and all kinds of crap-ware bundled in with it.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Alias
>>

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
> Microsoft has nothing to do with your problems. Its a name brand computer
> built and manufactured by Gateway, they are the ones responsible for
> configuring and testing the system before it was shipped to you. If there is
> anybody to have issue with here it is most certainly Gateway.
>
> You still have not even put into detail what type of problems you are having
> with Vista on your Gateway.

Yeah, sure, it has Gateway's Vista on it. I didn't know that Gateway has
made their own Vista operating system. When did that happen?

Alias

John Mc wrote:
> Alias,
>
> Thanks for the advice. I purchased the computer directly from Gateway - it
> is custom. Looks like I'm in for a battle. Microsoft seems to have such a
> monoploy these days.

I am not familiar with Gateway computers because here in Spain we don't
have them. Do they have Gateway stores or do they have to be bought on
line? If there is no brick and mortar store, you're right, you have a
battle on your hands and you can best believe that Microsoft won't help
you at all. What's worse, some of your hardware may only have Vista
drivers and won't work with XP.

Alias
>
> "Alias" wrote:
>
>> John Mc wrote:
>>> We recently pruchased (3/07) a new Gateway desktop with Vista on it. Vista
>>> has been nothing but problems. My wife's employer had the same issue. They
>>> were given copies of XP for 1 cent to replace Vista. Any idea if that
>>> applies to home computers? We've spent hours on fixes because of Vista.
>> Take the new computer back and demand a refund. If you think they may
>> give you problems, go when you know there will be a lot of customers
>> present and make your request in a loud, but polite, voice. Then find a
>> computer store that will sell you a computer with XP and one who will
>> provide you with a XP and drivers CD, not a restore disk or XP on a
>> hidden partition. Usually, small computer shops that build to order will
>> do this. Gateway, Dell et al, are sh¡t computers that come with hidden
>> partitions and all kinds of crap-ware bundled in with it.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Alias
>>