Is WU supposed to be working for Win98 now?

Pre-support cutoff date updates only, of course.

Or is WU just not accessible at all?

With the 0x8ddd0004 error I'm seeing in WU -- for which I've tried every
single thing ever published online to solve -- it's hard to tell, as today
is the first time I've tried it in the last couple months.

Oh, and is "Microsoft Update" supposed to be usable on Win98? That I've
never tried before today, so again, it's hard to tell. The furthest I get
with it is the message about installing the ActiveX control -- by clicking
on IE SP2's Information Bar, which, of course, doesn't exist in Win98's IE
SP1.

End of support for Windows 98
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx

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Windows - Shell/User

Enjoy all the benefits of genuine Microsoft software:
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"Milhouse Van Houten" wrote:

| Pre-support cutoff date updates only, of course.
|
| Or is WU just not accessible at all?
|
| With the 0x8ddd0004 error I'm seeing in WU -- for which I've tried every
| single thing ever published online to solve -- it's hard to tell, as today
| is the first time I've tried it in the last couple months.
|
| Oh, and is "Microsoft Update" supposed to be usable on Win98? That I've
| never tried before today, so again, it's hard to tell. The furthest I get
| with it is the message about installing the ActiveX control -- by clicking
| on IE SP2's Information Bar, which, of course, doesn't exist in Win98's IE
| SP1.

Yes, I realize that (and alluded to it), but was speaking only of pre-cutoff
date updates.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> End of support for Windows 98
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Enjoy all the benefits of genuine Microsoft software:
> http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/default.mspx
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---------------------------------
>
> "Milhouse Van Houten" wrote:
>
> | Pre-support cutoff date updates only, of course.
> |
> | Or is WU just not accessible at all?
> |
> | With the 0x8ddd0004 error I'm seeing in WU -- for which I've tried every
> | single thing ever published online to solve -- it's hard to tell, as
> today
> | is the first time I've tried it in the last couple months.
> |
> | Oh, and is "Microsoft Update" supposed to be usable on Win98? That I've
> | never tried before today, so again, it's hard to tell. The furthest I
> get
> | with it is the message about installing the ActiveX control -- by
> clicking
> | on IE SP2's Information Bar, which, of course, doesn't exist in Win98's
> IE
> | SP1.
>

"Milhouse Van Houten" <> schrieb:

> Pre-support cutoff date updates only, of course.
>
> Or is WU just not accessible at all?

Nope, it should still work.

> With the 0x8ddd0004 error I'm seeing in WU -- for which I've tried every
> single thing ever published online to solve -- it's hard to tell, as today
> is the first time I've tried it in the last couple months.

http://www.mshelper.de/downloads/regs/WinUpdRestore.exe
was among those "things" you've tried so far?

> Oh, and is "Microsoft Update" supposed to be usable on Win98?

Nope, Microsoft Update is V6, Windows Update for Windows 98 stucks on
V4 IIRC.

Bye,
Freudi

Any help?
If you need to remove the Windows Update ActiveX controls and re-install
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=319585 - Win 98 etc

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"Milhouse Van Houten" <> wrote in message
news:...
| Pre-support cutoff date updates only, of course.
|
| Or is WU just not accessible at all?
|
| With the 0x8ddd0004 error I'm seeing in WU -- for which I've tried every
| single thing ever published online to solve -- it's hard to tell, as today
| is the first time I've tried it in the last couple months.
|
| Oh, and is "Microsoft Update" supposed to be usable on Win98? That I've
| never tried before today, so again, it's hard to tell. The furthest I get
| with it is the message about installing the ActiveX control -- by clicking
| on IE SP2's Information Bar, which, of course, doesn't exist in Win98's IE
| SP1.
|
|

"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:...
> IE6 SP1 must be installed on the Win98 machine for it to be able to access
> and use Windows Update. Is it?
>
> The last updates for Win9x were released on 11 Jul-06. There will not be
> any newer updates for Win9x but earlier ones remain available at Windows
> Update for the time being.

Yes, I learned that when installing from scratch early in the year. Once
that was installed, WU worked fine for everything up through the last time I
tried it a couple months ago. It was up-to-date as of then.

"TaurArian [MS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Any help?
> If you need to remove the Windows Update ActiveX controls and re-install
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=319585 - Win 98 etc

Of the three things in there, the first two I'd done before, but not the
third (deleting the two DLLs), so I tried all three and rebooted for good
measure, but still no luck. I don't think I've ever seen a WU error this
stubborn before, it's amazing. Thanks.

"Milhouse Van Houten" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "TaurArian [MS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Any help?
>> If you need to remove the Windows Update ActiveX controls and re-install
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=319585 - Win 98 etc
>
> Of the three things in there, the first two I'd done before, but not the
> third (deleting the two DLLs), so I tried all three and rebooted for good
> measure, but still no luck. I don't think I've ever seen a WU error this
> stubborn before, it's amazing. Thanks.

Admitting defeat, I went back to an image from June, when I could get into
WU fine. It's a totally clean, updated installation (as of that time) with
nothing else installed.

Here's what I'm presented with when I run WU from that:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8990/wuxx2.jpg

And if I say "Yes" to that, about a minute later I'm dumped to the
0x8ddd0004 screen like before.

What's interesting about MS offering that control is the date: May 2005. I
should have already had that from all the updates I did earlier this year--I
always say Yes to those prompts, and if you say No, it doesn't even let you
in.

So why would it be asking again? If people weren't telling me WU is still
turned on for Win98 users, I'd sure think it wasn't. This very much seems
like a change made on their end, not mine.

I've only been try WU, not expecting MU to really work.

However, note the screen shot in my previous message: Win98's WU is routing
me to *v6*, not v4. Why it's doing that I don't know. Is there a way to
force going to v4? Perhaps the reason the control I'm being offered with WU
v6 doesn't work is that it's not for W98. Has MS crossed something up with
their servers?
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8990/wuxx2.jpg

"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:%...
>> Oh, and is "Microsoft Update" supposed to be usable on Win98?
>
> No, Microsoft Update only supports WinXP, Win2K SP4 and Win2K03, so that's
> probably why you're not able to install the Active X Control: Win98
> continues to use the V4 update engine, while WinXP, Win2K and Win2K03 use
> the V6 engine to reach Windows Update /and/ Microsoft Update.
>
> Once again: To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you quote all
> of previous message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup. Thank you.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
>> Pre-support cutoff date updates only, of course.
>>
>> Or is WU just not accessible at all?
>>
>> With the 0x8ddd0004 error I'm seeing in WU -- for which I've tried every
>> single thing ever published online to solve -- it's hard to tell, as
>> today
>> is the first time I've tried it in the last couple months.
>>
>> Oh, and is "Microsoft Update" supposed to be usable on Win98? That I've
>> never tried before today, so again, it's hard to tell. The furthest I get
>> with it is the message about installing the ActiveX control -- by
>> clicking
>> on IE SP2's Information Bar, which, of course, doesn't exist in Win98's
>> IE
>> SP1.

It's a different machine altogether. v4 redirects to v6 for me. Does anyone
on W98 actually stay on v4 anymore?

"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> You post here using a WinXP SP2 machine. Is Win98 installed on a
> partition on this machine or is it a different machine altogether? If the
> same machine, did you install Win98 after installing WinXP?
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
>> I've only been try WU, not expecting MU to really work.
>>
>> However, note the screen shot in my previous message: Win98's WU is
>> routing
>> me to *v6*, not v4. Why it's doing that I don't know. Is there a way to
>> force going to v4? Perhaps the reason the control I'm being offered with
>> WU
>> v6 doesn't work is that it's not for W98. Has MS crossed something up
>> with
>> their servers?
>> http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8990/wuxx2.jpg
>>
>> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>>> Oh, and is "Microsoft Update" supposed to be usable on Win98?
>>>
>>> No, Microsoft Update only supports WinXP, Win2K SP4 and Win2K03, so
>>> that's
>>> probably why you're not able to install the Active X Control: Win98
>>> continues to use the V4 update engine, while WinXP, Win2K and Win2K03
>>> use
>>> the V6 engine to reach Windows Update /and/ Microsoft Update.
>>>
>>> Once again: To keep track of things, it helps immensely if you quote all
>>> of previous message(s) in your replies to the newsgroup. Thank you.
>>> --
>>> ~PA Bear
>>>
>>>
>>> Milhouse Van Houten wrote:
>>>> Pre-support cutoff date updates only, of course.
>>>>
>>>> Or is WU just not accessible at all?
>>>>
>>>> With the 0x8ddd0004 error I'm seeing in WU -- for which I've tried
>>>> every
>>>> single thing ever published online to solve -- it's hard to tell, as
>>>> today
>>>> is the first time I've tried it in the last couple months.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and is "Microsoft Update" supposed to be usable on Win98? That
>>>> I've
>>>> never tried before today, so again, it's hard to tell. The furthest I
>>>> get
>>>> with it is the message about installing the ActiveX control -- by
>>>> clicking
>>>> on IE SP2's Information Bar, which, of course, doesn't exist in Win98's
>>>> IE
>>>> SP1.