XP Vista folder permissions

Hello,
I'm slaving a hard drive with Vista Home on it to an XP Pro machine, the
laptop says the hard drive is going to crash, I slaved it and it is still
accessible, I'm familiar with folder permissions and taking ownership of the
folders/drive ect... I've had this issue in the past (but with an XP OS)
where I had to take ownership of the drive so on and so fourth. So, all of
that is good, except Vista is different, I can see all the folders but
nothing is in them. I've researched quite a bit (maybe not in the right
places) but to no avail.
Is there a way to access the information in those folders?
Thanks Craig

alias wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm slaving a hard drive with Vista Home on it to an XP Pro machine, the
> laptop says the hard drive is going to crash, I slaved it and it is still
> accessible, I'm familiar with folder permissions and taking ownership of the
> folders/drive ect... I've had this issue in the past (but with an XP OS)
> where I had to take ownership of the drive so on and so fourth. So, all of
> that is good, except Vista is different, I can see all the folders but
> nothing is in them. I've researched quite a bit (maybe not in the right
> places) but to no avail.
> Is there a way to access the information in those folders?
> Thanks Craig
>
>

If you can see the folder but you cannot list the content of the folder,
then maybe the user account you're using doesn't have the rights set to
read and list folder content.

Does the Administrator group have the rights? Does the Users group have
the rights?

Thanks Paul,
Yes it does, not only did I set the rights but I also gave the proper user
ownership of the drive which propagated down to the
directories that I need to access. I thought maybe there was something
different with Vista but maybe not?
Thanks again for the help.
Craig
"Paul Montgumdrop" <> wrote in message
news:...
> alias wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm slaving a hard drive with Vista Home on it to an XP Pro machine, the
>> laptop says the hard drive is going to crash, I slaved it and it is still
>> accessible, I'm familiar with folder permissions and taking ownership of
>> the folders/drive ect... I've had this issue in the past (but with an XP
>> OS) where I had to take ownership of the drive so on and so fourth. So,
>> all of that is good, except Vista is different, I can see all the folders
>> but nothing is in them. I've researched quite a bit (maybe not in the
>> right places) but to no avail.
>> Is there a way to access the information in those folders?
>> Thanks Craig
>
> If you can see the folder but you cannot list the content of the folder,
> then maybe the user account you're using doesn't have the rights set to
> read and list folder content.
>
> Does the Administrator group have the rights? Does the Users group have
> the rights?
>

Sorry I just read the rest of you question the users group have the rights
to the folder.

"Paul Montgumdrop" <> wrote in message
news:...
> alias wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm slaving a hard drive with Vista Home on it to an XP Pro machine, the
>> laptop says the hard drive is going to crash, I slaved it and it is still
>> accessible, I'm familiar with folder permissions and taking ownership of
>> the folders/drive ect... I've had this issue in the past (but with an XP
>> OS) where I had to take ownership of the drive so on and so fourth. So,
>> all of that is good, except Vista is different, I can see all the folders
>> but nothing is in them. I've researched quite a bit (maybe not in the
>> right places) but to no avail.
>> Is there a way to access the information in those folders?
>> Thanks Craig
>
> If you can see the folder but you cannot list the content of the folder,
> then maybe the user account you're using doesn't have the rights set to
> read and list folder content.
>
> Does the Administrator group have the rights? Does the Users group have
> the rights?
>

alias wrote:
> Thanks Paul,
> Yes it does, not only did I set the rights but I also gave the proper user
> ownership of the drive which propagated down to the
> directories that I need to access. I thought maybe there was something
> different with Vista but maybe not?

It may not be the case as Vista is different. You're not user/admin with
full rights to take ownership not in all cases. It maybe going through
the motions, but not doing it.

The hidden built-in Administrator account maybe able to take ownership,
but it doesn't mean your user/admin account can do the same thing.

Can you add a new account called stjoe573 to the folders if stjoe573 is
the user/admin account you logged in with and give it full rights to
match the Administrator group? What happens if you do that.

As a test as user/admin here, can you go to Program Files and add a new
user account, change existing user account permissions or delete a user
account off of that folder or even C:\Windows?

You can make a new folder in C:\Programs File. But can you use notepad
to save a file to that folder without having to get stjoe573 on the
folder to match Administrator group rights on the folder?

Check it out.

Thanks again Paul so are you saying that nothing has changed then with the
permissions on folders or how Vista will
allow you to access them in this manner?
Craig
"Paul Montgumdrop" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> alias wrote:
>> Thanks Paul,
>> Yes it does, not only did I set the rights but I also gave the proper
>> user ownership of the drive which propagated down to the
>> directories that I need to access. I thought maybe there was something
>> different with Vista but maybe not?
>
> It may not be the case as Vista is different. You're not user/admin with
> full rights to take ownership not in all cases. It maybe going through the
> motions, but not doing it.
>
> The hidden built-in Administrator account maybe able to take ownership,
> but it doesn't mean your user/admin account can do the same thing.
>
> Can you add a new account called stjoe573 to the folders if stjoe573 is
> the user/admin account you logged in with and give it full rights to match
> the Administrator group? What happens if you do that.
>
> As a test as user/admin here, can you go to Program Files and add a new
> user account, change existing user account permissions or delete a user
> account off of that folder or even C:\Windows?
>
> You can make a new folder in C:\Programs File. But can you use notepad to
> save a file to that folder without having to get stjoe573 on the folder to
> match Administrator group rights on the folder?
>
> Check it out.
>

alias wrote:
> Thanks again Paul so are you saying that nothing has changed then with the
> permissions on folders or how Vista will
> allow you to access them in this manner?

I suggest you use the hidden built-in Administrator account on Vista and
start checking ownership and rights, because if you can see the folder
but you cannot list the content of the folders, then there must be a
permissions issue or account conflict somewhere, even if you are
user/admin. You'll have to active that hidden admin account, use Google

I am also saying that you do the other stuff as user/admin that I am
talking about to see what happens, and you think to yourself. If one
can't do it at the graphical UI of the security screens, they how does
one think it's going to happen at the Command Prompt.

I had one poster in the Security NG using a Batch file setting account
ownership for users along with other security settings as ussr/admin for
users running the Batch file, and Vista blew it all off.


> Craig
> "Paul Montgumdrop" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> alias wrote:
>>> Thanks Paul,
>>> Yes it does, not only did I set the rights but I also gave the proper
>>> user ownership of the drive which propagated down to the
>>> directories that I need to access. I thought maybe there was something
>>> different with Vista but maybe not?
>> It may not be the case as Vista is different. You're not user/admin with
>> full rights to take ownership not in all cases. It maybe going through the
>> motions, but not doing it.
>>
>> The hidden built-in Administrator account maybe able to take ownership,
>> but it doesn't mean your user/admin account can do the same thing.
>>
>> Can you add a new account called stjoe573 to the folders if stjoe573 is
>> the user/admin account you logged in with and give it full rights to match
>> the Administrator group? What happens if you do that.
>>
>> As a test as user/admin here, can you go to Program Files and add a new
>> user account, change existing user account permissions or delete a user
>> account off of that folder or even C:\Windows?
>>
>> You can make a new folder in C:\Programs File. But can you use notepad to
>> save a file to that folder without having to get stjoe573 on the folder to
>> match Administrator group rights on the folder?
>>
>> Check it out.
>>
>
>

I tried the built-in Admin to no avail, same result.
Craig
"Paul Montgumdrop" <> wrote in message
news:...
> alias wrote:
>> Thanks again Paul so are you saying that nothing has changed then with
>> the permissions on folders or how Vista will
>> allow you to access them in this manner?
>
> I suggest you use the hidden built-in Administrator account on Vista and
> start checking ownership and rights, because if you can see the folder but
> you cannot list the content of the folders, then there must be a
> permissions issue or account conflict somewhere, even if you are
> user/admin. You'll have to active that hidden admin account, use Google
>
> I am also saying that you do the other stuff as user/admin that I am
> talking about to see what happens, and you think to yourself. If one can't
> do it at the graphical UI of the security screens, they how does one think
> it's going to happen at the Command Prompt.
>
> I had one poster in the Security NG using a Batch file setting account
> ownership for users along with other security settings as ussr/admin for
> users running the Batch file, and Vista blew it all off.
>
>
>> Craig
>> "Paul Montgumdrop" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> alias wrote:
>>>> Thanks Paul,
>>>> Yes it does, not only did I set the rights but I also gave the proper
>>>> user ownership of the drive which propagated down to the
>>>> directories that I need to access. I thought maybe there was something
>>>> different with Vista but maybe not?
>>> It may not be the case as Vista is different. You're not user/admin with
>>> full rights to take ownership not in all cases. It maybe going through
>>> the motions, but not doing it.
>>>
>>> The hidden built-in Administrator account maybe able to take ownership,
>>> but it doesn't mean your user/admin account can do the same thing.
>>>
>>> Can you add a new account called stjoe573 to the folders if stjoe573 is
>>> the user/admin account you logged in with and give it full rights to
>>> match the Administrator group? What happens if you do that.
>>>
>>> As a test as user/admin here, can you go to Program Files and add a new
>>> user account, change existing user account permissions or delete a user
>>> account off of that folder or even C:\Windows?
>>>
>>> You can make a new folder in C:\Programs File. But can you use notepad
>>> to save a file to that folder without having to get stjoe573 on the
>>> folder to match Administrator group rights on the folder?
>>>
>>> Check it out.
>>>
>>