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jeongyoon kim[414773]
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      06-20-2006
windows messenger is good..

why..?



 
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Nathan Millson
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      06-20-2006
Windows Messenger:

Good if you want to only just send text.

Windows Live Messenger:
a.. PC-to-PC Calling
b.. Even better video conversations
c.. Sharing Folders
d.. Text message their phones
e.. Your two-way, super-powered address book
f.. Windows LiveT Alerts
g.. Soon: Talk to your Yahoo! friends, too
"jeongyoon kim[414773]" <> wrote in message
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> windows messenger is good..
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> why..?
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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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      06-20-2006
Hi,

I'd like to disagree you on some of these.

Windows Messenger's PC to PC functionality uses exactly the same codecs and RTC (Real-Time
Communication) APIs as Windows Live Messenger does. To be fair, it's an updated version of
RTC /w better connectivity but fundamentally is the same thing.

Video is better in Windows Live Messenger true.

Sharing Folders, iffy -- file transfer works fine in Windows Messenger when properly setup.

You can text message phones in Windows Messenger with the correct 4.x version (to be
specific, 4.7.2009) as long as they've been setup for MSN Mobile.

Windows Live Alerts work in Windows Messenger exactly the same as they do in Windows Live
Messenger.

So, really, a lot of this is just marketing and UI. I know a number of die-hard Windows
Messenger users which like it's low memory usage, quick speeds and more "enterprise" feel as
opposed to the rather consumer oriented WLM/MSN client.

Although I think the OP was referring to Windows Live Messenger anyway

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Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
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"Nathan Millson" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Windows Messenger:
>
> Good if you want to only just send text.
>
> Windows Live Messenger:
> a.. PC-to-PC Calling
> b.. Even better video conversations
> c.. Sharing Folders
> d.. Text message their phones
> e.. Your two-way, super-powered address book
> f.. Windows LiveT Alerts
> g.. Soon: Talk to your Yahoo! friends, too
> "jeongyoon kim[414773]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> windows messenger is good..
>>
>> why..?
>>
>>
>>

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Jonathan Yaniv
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      06-21-2006
I disagree with this as well

Everything in Windows Messenger is in Windows Live Messenger with improved
functionality

Everything you can do with Windows Messenger you can do with Windows Live
Messenger.

One thing ive noticed is that the Messenger service has been removed from
Windows Vista Beta 2. Messenger is not included in Vista.

Windows Messenger seems to be out of development, and Windows Live Messenger
will be the main IM client of Microsoft Corporation.
"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to disagree you on some of these.
>
> Windows Messenger's PC to PC functionality uses exactly the same codecs
> and RTC (Real-Time Communication) APIs as Windows Live Messenger does. To
> be fair, it's an updated version of RTC /w better connectivity but
> fundamentally is the same thing.
>
> Video is better in Windows Live Messenger true.
>
> Sharing Folders, iffy -- file transfer works fine in Windows Messenger
> when properly setup.
>
> You can text message phones in Windows Messenger with the correct 4.x
> version (to be specific, 4.7.2009) as long as they've been setup for MSN
> Mobile.
>
> Windows Live Alerts work in Windows Messenger exactly the same as they do
> in Windows Live Messenger.
>
> So, really, a lot of this is just marketing and UI. I know a number of
> die-hard Windows Messenger users which like it's low memory usage, quick
> speeds and more "enterprise" feel as opposed to the rather consumer
> oriented WLM/MSN client.
>
> Although I think the OP was referring to Windows Live Messenger anyway
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
> "Nathan Millson" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Windows Messenger:
>>
>> Good if you want to only just send text.
>>
>> Windows Live Messenger:
>> a.. PC-to-PC Calling
>> b.. Even better video conversations
>> c.. Sharing Folders
>> d.. Text message their phones
>> e.. Your two-way, super-powered address book
>> f.. Windows LiveT Alerts
>> g.. Soon: Talk to your Yahoo! friends, too
>> "jeongyoon kim[414773]" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> windows messenger is good..
>>>
>>> why..?
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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      06-21-2006
Yes, the Windows Messenger team was disbanded about two years ago.

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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

"Jonathan Yaniv" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I disagree with this as well
>
> Everything in Windows Messenger is in Windows Live Messenger with improved functionality
>
> Everything you can do with Windows Messenger you can do with Windows Live Messenger.
>
> One thing ive noticed is that the Messenger service has been removed from Windows Vista
> Beta 2. Messenger is not included in Vista.
>
> Windows Messenger seems to be out of development, and Windows Live Messenger will be the
> main IM client of Microsoft Corporation.
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to disagree you on some of these.
>>
>> Windows Messenger's PC to PC functionality uses exactly the same codecs and RTC (Real-Time
>> Communication) APIs as Windows Live Messenger does. To be fair, it's an updated version
>> of RTC /w better connectivity but fundamentally is the same thing.
>>
>> Video is better in Windows Live Messenger true.
>>
>> Sharing Folders, iffy -- file transfer works fine in Windows Messenger when properly
>> setup.
>>
>> You can text message phones in Windows Messenger with the correct 4.x version (to be
>> specific, 4.7.2009) as long as they've been setup for MSN Mobile.
>>
>> Windows Live Alerts work in Windows Messenger exactly the same as they do in Windows Live
>> Messenger.
>>
>> So, really, a lot of this is just marketing and UI. I know a number of die-hard Windows
>> Messenger users which like it's low memory usage, quick speeds and more "enterprise" feel
>> as opposed to the rather consumer oriented WLM/MSN client.
>>
>> Although I think the OP was referring to Windows Live Messenger anyway
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>> "Nathan Millson" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Windows Messenger:
>>>
>>> Good if you want to only just send text.
>>>
>>> Windows Live Messenger:
>>> a.. PC-to-PC Calling
>>> b.. Even better video conversations
>>> c.. Sharing Folders
>>> d.. Text message their phones
>>> e.. Your two-way, super-powered address book
>>> f.. Windows LiveT Alerts
>>> g.. Soon: Talk to your Yahoo! friends, too
>>> "jeongyoon kim[414773]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> windows messenger is good..
>>>>
>>>> why..?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Nathan Millson
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      06-21-2006
well its because they got nipped for intergrating windows media player, and
windows messenger into windows xp.. From now on they cant include these
services because for some reason its an unfair advantage for other
competitors.
weird.

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Yes, the Windows Messenger team was disbanded about two years ago.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> --
>
> "Jonathan Yaniv" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I disagree with this as well
>>
>> Everything in Windows Messenger is in Windows Live Messenger with
>> improved functionality
>>
>> Everything you can do with Windows Messenger you can do with Windows Live
>> Messenger.
>>
>> One thing ive noticed is that the Messenger service has been removed from
>> Windows Vista Beta 2. Messenger is not included in Vista.
>>
>> Windows Messenger seems to be out of development, and Windows Live
>> Messenger will be the main IM client of Microsoft Corporation.
>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd like to disagree you on some of these.
>>>
>>> Windows Messenger's PC to PC functionality uses exactly the same codecs
>>> and RTC (Real-Time Communication) APIs as Windows Live Messenger does.
>>> To be fair, it's an updated version of RTC /w better connectivity but
>>> fundamentally is the same thing.
>>>
>>> Video is better in Windows Live Messenger true.
>>>
>>> Sharing Folders, iffy -- file transfer works fine in Windows Messenger
>>> when properly setup.
>>>
>>> You can text message phones in Windows Messenger with the correct 4.x
>>> version (to be specific, 4.7.2009) as long as they've been setup for MSN
>>> Mobile.
>>>
>>> Windows Live Alerts work in Windows Messenger exactly the same as they
>>> do in Windows Live Messenger.
>>>
>>> So, really, a lot of this is just marketing and UI. I know a number of
>>> die-hard Windows Messenger users which like it's low memory usage, quick
>>> speeds and more "enterprise" feel as opposed to the rather consumer
>>> oriented WLM/MSN client.
>>>
>>> Although I think the OP was referring to Windows Live Messenger anyway
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Kay
>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>>> Associate Expert
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>> --
>>>
>>> "Nathan Millson" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Windows Messenger:
>>>>
>>>> Good if you want to only just send text.
>>>>
>>>> Windows Live Messenger:
>>>> a.. PC-to-PC Calling
>>>> b.. Even better video conversations
>>>> c.. Sharing Folders
>>>> d.. Text message their phones
>>>> e.. Your two-way, super-powered address book
>>>> f.. Windows LiveT Alerts
>>>> g.. Soon: Talk to your Yahoo! friends, too
>>>> "jeongyoon kim[414773]" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> windows messenger is good..
>>>>>
>>>>> why..?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Jonathan Kay [MVP]
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      06-21-2006
Hi,

Actually the team moved to Office Communicator -- using that logic, the Windows Media Player
team should be gone as well.
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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

"Nathan Millson" <> wrote in message
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> well its because they got nipped for intergrating windows media player, and windows
> messenger into windows xp.. From now on they cant include these services because for some
> reason its an unfair advantage for other competitors.
> weird.
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> Yes, the Windows Messenger team was disbanded about two years ago.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> --
>>
>> "Jonathan Yaniv" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>I disagree with this as well
>>>
>>> Everything in Windows Messenger is in Windows Live Messenger with improved functionality
>>>
>>> Everything you can do with Windows Messenger you can do with Windows Live Messenger.
>>>
>>> One thing ive noticed is that the Messenger service has been removed from Windows Vista
>>> Beta 2. Messenger is not included in Vista.
>>>
>>> Windows Messenger seems to be out of development, and Windows Live Messenger will be the
>>> main IM client of Microsoft Corporation.
>>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to disagree you on some of these.
>>>>
>>>> Windows Messenger's PC to PC functionality uses exactly the same codecs and RTC
>>>> (Real-Time Communication) APIs as Windows Live Messenger does. To be fair, it's an
>>>> updated version of RTC /w better connectivity but fundamentally is the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Video is better in Windows Live Messenger true.
>>>>
>>>> Sharing Folders, iffy -- file transfer works fine in Windows Messenger when properly
>>>> setup.
>>>>
>>>> You can text message phones in Windows Messenger with the correct 4.x version (to be
>>>> specific, 4.7.2009) as long as they've been setup for MSN Mobile.
>>>>
>>>> Windows Live Alerts work in Windows Messenger exactly the same as they do in Windows
>>>> Live Messenger.
>>>>
>>>> So, really, a lot of this is just marketing and UI. I know a number of die-hard Windows
>>>> Messenger users which like it's low memory usage, quick speeds and more "enterprise"
>>>> feel as opposed to the rather consumer oriented WLM/MSN client.
>>>>
>>>> Although I think the OP was referring to Windows Live Messenger anyway
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan Kay
>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>>>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
>>>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> "Nathan Millson" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> Windows Messenger:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good if you want to only just send text.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Live Messenger:
>>>>> a.. PC-to-PC Calling
>>>>> b.. Even better video conversations
>>>>> c.. Sharing Folders
>>>>> d.. Text message their phones
>>>>> e.. Your two-way, super-powered address book
>>>>> f.. Windows LiveT Alerts
>>>>> g.. Soon: Talk to your Yahoo! friends, too
>>>>> "jeongyoon kim[414773]" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> windows messenger is good..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> why..?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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