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Oliver Costich
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      04-16-2009
I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
Acrobat 8.

When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
action". Here's what I have tried so far:

UAC is off.

Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab

Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
/active:yes in cmd run as administrator)



I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.

HELP!!
 
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Steve McGarrett
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      04-16-2009
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:51:24 -0700, Oliver Costich <>
wrote:

>I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
>things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
>delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
>Acrobat 8.
>
>When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
>action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>
>UAC is off.
>
>Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>
>Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
>/active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>
>
>
>I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
>Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>
>HELP!!


Get this and install it. It will add "Unlocker" to your right-click
context menu.

http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/

Works most of the time.
 
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Dave Warren
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      04-16-2009
In message <> Steve McGarrett
<> was claimed to have wrote:

>Get this and install it. It will add "Unlocker" to your right-click
>context menu.
>
>http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/
>
>Works most of the time.


Be aware that this can cause some rather interesting file corruption...
Shut down everything you can, and reboot immediately after using
unlocker.
 
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      04-22-2009
Oh, It might be related to your previous operating system.
Vista is not able to ensure permission of operating files and folders which
are created in Windows XP automatically.
I'm not so sure, and do not have a solution.


"Oliver Costich" <> 写入消息
news:...
> I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
> things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
> delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
> Acrobat 8.
>
> When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
> action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>
> UAC is off.
>
> Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>
> Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
> /active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>
>
>
> I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
> Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>
> HELP!!


 
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FromTheRafters
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      04-22-2009
"Oliver Costich" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
> things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
> delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
> Acrobat 8.
>
> When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
> action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>
> UAC is off.
>
> Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>
> Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
> /active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>
>
>
> I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
> Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>
> HELP!!


You don't mention the use of icacls to affect the Mandatory Label.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc753525.aspx


 
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Dave
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      04-22-2009
Since the files on that drive were created by a different user, you don't
own them.
To take control of them, you need to take ownership & change permissions.

Assuming the files are on Drive D, and that you have an administrator
account:
Open a CMD prompt, by clicking on Start - All Programs - Accessories
right-click on Command Prompt, select "Run as Administrator"

takeown /f D:\ /r /d y
icacls D:\ /grant administrators:F /t

http://nemesisv.blogspot.com/2007/08...-in-vista.html



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"Oliver Costich" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
> things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
> delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
> Acrobat 8.
>
> When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
> action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>
> UAC is off.
>
> Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>
> Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
> /active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>
>
>
> I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
> Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>
> HELP!!


 
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Dave Warren
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      04-23-2009
In message <>
AstaLaVista <> was claimed to have wrote:

>I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but
>I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly, this
>will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do with
>permissions to move, transfer or save a file?


The difference between access being blocked by permissions or file locks
isn't particularly clear to all apps, even Explorer gets this confused
and offers to elevate to perform an operation when permissions aren't
the issue.

>Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant
>locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.


Unlocker will remove any open file locks, yes. However, permissions and
locks are very different things.
 
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Leo
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      04-23-2009
Maybe this will help.


Step by step instruction on how to take ownership of a folder



Run CMD (as administrator) and type: takeown [path] /f <filename or folder>

OR

- Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties

- Click Security Tab

- Click Advanced

- Click the Owner Tab

- Click Edit

- Select the Administrators group from the list

- Click OK

- Click OK

- Click OK

You have now taken 'Ownership' of the file and you can close the property

Windows



Now again



1) Right-click on the file

2) Select Properties

3) Go to the Security tab again, click the Advanced button

4) Now Press Edit, then double-click 'Administrators' in the list and tick

the 'allow' box for 'Full control'



You have now taken 'Full control' of file


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<> wrote in message
news:%23kF$...
> Oh, It might be related to your previous operating system.
> Vista is not able to ensure permission of operating files and folders which
> are created in Windows XP automatically.
> I'm not so sure, and do not have a solution.
>
>
> "Oliver Costich" <> 写入消息
> news:...
>> I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain
>> things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to
>> delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe
>> Acrobat 8.
>>
>> When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this
>> action". Here's what I have tried so far:
>>
>> UAC is off.
>>
>> Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab
>>
>> Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator
>> /active:yes in cmd run as administrator)
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful.
>> Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy.
>>
>> HELP!!

>


 
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FromTheRafters
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      04-23-2009
"Dave Warren" <dave-> wrote in message
news:...
> In message <>
> AstaLaVista <> was claimed to have wrote:
>
>>I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but
>>I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly,
>>this
>>will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do
>>with
>>permissions to move, transfer or save a file?

>
> The difference between access being blocked by permissions or file
> locks
> isn't particularly clear to all apps, even Explorer gets this confused
> and offers to elevate to perform an operation when permissions aren't
> the issue.
>
>>Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant
>>locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.

>
> Unlocker will remove any open file locks, yes. However, permissions
> and
> locks are very different things.


Confusion between "blocked" (executable from internet), "locked" (in use
by another application, or in some cases encrypted), "permissions"
(privileges), and "integrity levels" (Mandatory Label/IE protected
mode). All these just mean "Windows Vista won't let me..." to the
average user.


 
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Dave Warren
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      04-24-2009
In message <> "FromTheRafters"
<erratic @nomail.afraid.org> was claimed to have wrote:

>"Dave Warren" <dave-> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> In message <>
>> AstaLaVista <> was claimed to have wrote:
>>
>>>I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but
>>>I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly,
>>>this
>>>will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do
>>>with
>>>permissions to move, transfer or save a file?

>>
>> The difference between access being blocked by permissions or file
>> locks
>> isn't particularly clear to all apps, even Explorer gets this confused
>> and offers to elevate to perform an operation when permissions aren't
>> the issue.
>>
>>>Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant
>>>locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.

>>
>> Unlocker will remove any open file locks, yes. However, permissions
>> and
>> locks are very different things.

>
>Confusion between "blocked" (executable from internet), "locked" (in use
>by another application, or in some cases encrypted), "permissions"
>(privileges), and "integrity levels" (Mandatory Label/IE protected
>mode). All these just mean "Windows Vista won't let me..." to the
>average user.
>


True, but the solution is still quite different depending on the
underlying problem.
 
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