75 User Limit - Fact or Fiction?

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by Rick K, May 13, 2006.

  1. Rick K

    Rick K Guest

    Can anyone explain the 75 user limit in SBS?
    What happens if you have more than 75 users?
    Is it 75 connected users?
    Are you able to have more users but will only receive licensing violations
    or warnings?


    - Rick K
    Rick K, May 13, 2006
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  2. Rick K

    Jeff Teel Guest

    It means that you can have a maximum of 75 separate users licensed to use
    SBS legally. That means 75 users set up on the server not connected users.
    Your question regarding violations is like asking what the fine would be for
    speeding or if you might get just a warning!!
    Jeff Teel, May 14, 2006
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  3. I've gotta jump in on this, it sortta ain't right.

    SBS CAL limitations have very little relationship to the number of defined
    users, the number of connected users, or the number of individuals accessing
    the system.

    A CAL must be assigned to either a user (a person) or a device. The initial
    five CALs which come with SBS can be used in either mode. Additional CALs
    must be purchased as one or the other type. For a person to acccess SBS
    either they or the device they are using must be _permanently_ assigned a
    CAL (of the correct type). If you have a 'process' which accesses SBS
    facilities without the intervention of a person then the device this process
    runs on must be allocated a 'device' CAL.

    Theoretically, you could have thousands of 'users' defined on the system,
    all accessing through the same 75 devices.
    Theoretically you could have thousands of devices attached to the system,
    all used by the same 75 people.

    CALs can only be re-assigned as a permanent move. Say Sally the secretary
    resigns, and is replaced by Steve, you can reassign the user CAL.
    SuperGumby [SBS MVP], May 14, 2006
  4. That is not correct. SBS has user or device CALs. If you use Device CALs you
    can have an unlimited number of Users using 75 Devices.
    Frank McCallister SBS MVP, May 14, 2006
  5. Rick K

    Rick K Guest

    All -
    I have a few questions:
    1) how can i determine if my 65 CALS are licensed for users or devices
    2) my maximum licenses listed is 73
    3) it appears I have 90 users listed and haven't had issues with users being
    able to login although I'm not sure if the maximum concurrent users has
    exceeded 73
    4) i really just need to know, can 76 users connect at the same time in sbs


    - RK
    Rick K, May 14, 2006
  6. The first 5 are whatever you want.. the other 60 are ..'what kind did
    you buy?'

    SBS's cal counting is done by the auditors at Enron... numbers aren't
    that precise.
    Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP], May 14, 2006
  7. That has to go with my list of all time favorite quotes :>) Hopefully the
    second par goes in your Blog!!!
    Frank McCallister SBS MVP, May 14, 2006
  8. Rick K

    Roy Guest

    You can only have up to max 80 concurrent connextions, after that SBS will
    BLOCK every attempt to make more connections. You can make more then 75 users
    however the first rule will be 80 con. max. How do i come to 80 connections.
    Well SBS takes cal packs of 5 users @ once. If you have a 5 user license you
    can connect with 6 because you get 1 for free. When you install more then 25
    cals you can connect until max of 30 NO MORE then it will be blocked untill u
    install a new user cal of 5. so the max free license you get is 5 from 25 up
    to any number. SBS has been for small business only when you have more then
    75 users concurrent then u should be considering 2003 Enterprise VL and
    Exchange 2003 Enterprise. Why enterprise for Exchange also then you have no
    max capacity for you DB. Normaly Exchange under SBS wil take up to 17,5 GB
    max. You can ajust this to max of 20Gb after that a block will come up and
    you have to purge you DB for Exchange also. So you see SBS is a great product
    but it hat his limits.

    I hope you can work with this answer.

    Good luck

    Roy, May 14, 2006
  9. Aloha Roy,
    Well, I'm not going to argue with your 80-user claim, though I have to admit
    being skeptical, but I will tell you that Exchange 2003 under SBS has a normal
    maximum store limit of 16GB (per store). You can temporarily increase that,
    by registry hack, to 17GB. SP2 of Exchange 2003 raises the base limit to
    18GB but it can be increased, via registry edit, as high as 75GB (per store).

    Ben M. Schorr, MVP
    Roland Schorr & Tower
    Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenote.htm
    Ben M. Schorr - MVP, May 14, 2006
  10. Uh... Exchange 2003 Service pack 2 will allow 75 gigabytes if your bold
    enough! (I believe 18 is the default with SP-2 to set 75 its a simple reg

    Dirk-Thomas Brown, May 14, 2006
  11. Rick K

    Roy Guest

    Well if you want up to 75 gb per store just go and do it but if you get
    things messed up don't look @ me, ms has his rules so don't do things ms
    won't support. 1 thing is right though it was a max of 17Gb max per store but
    it's only 3 gb more what i typed, call it a slip of the finger. :)

    The question however was the limit of users and yes the max is 80 concurrend
    users above that it won't logon anyone else. When someone logsoff and you
    logon again then it works.
    Roy, May 15, 2006
  12. Rick K

    Rick K Guest

    Thanks Roy,

    That WAS the question I needed answered and it clearly clarifies things.

    - Rick
    Rick K, May 15, 2006
  13. Rick K

    Kevin Rains Guest

    Please see SuperGumby's response above for a clear answer.

    Kevin Rains, May 15, 2006
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