891711/MS05-002 Updated (fixed) for Win9x

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by PA Bear, Apr 12, 2005.

  1. PA Bear

    Shane Guest

    1) It shows up as a "checked item" in my Startup menu..........should it
    Yes.


    Shane
     
    Shane, Apr 13, 2005
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    Mike M Guest

    1) It shows up as a "checked item" in
    If by this you mean you see KB891711.exe as an entry in MSConfig | Startup
    then yes, this is correct. Therefore there is nothing to remove and all
    appears to be as it should be.
     
    Mike M, Apr 13, 2005
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    Rick Chauvin Guest

    That's great - glad to hear it worked for you!
    If you mean in msconfig? ..yes absolutely leave it checked, all is well.

    Don't read any of the old posts anymore, just go forward with any new
    postings about it.

    Rick


     
    Rick Chauvin, Apr 13, 2005
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    PA Bear Guest

    "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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    PA Bear, Apr 13, 2005
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  5. anyway ):

    Went through much the same thing with my grandfather, years ago. Not
    "fun" by any means. Poor guy had finally gotten past the inflammatory
    stage of rheumatoid arthritis, had moved to our town into a house the
    folks bought, had a couple of "keep busy" driving jobs--was as happy as
    I'd ever known him, ony to be laid low by a series of strokes. I think
    the worst part may have been that he lived another 4 years in a nursing
    home, alone, grandma having succumbed to a cancer not long after his
    first stroke.

    My folks will probably outlive me, but just in case, we're moving from a
    mile and a half away to only a quarter-mile away from their house. And
    the folks are investing heavily in an assisted living project that will
    go up next year, across the street from where I live now.
    though.

    Yeah, I was hoping not to see anything like that. Now hoping I can get
    Alan to fully participate in the diagnosis.
     
    Gary S. Terhune, Apr 13, 2005
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  6. Unfortunately, it's not always easy to tell when it's broke and when
    it's not, <g>. A piece of advice that supersedes PA Bear's: "When in
    doubt, *ask*!" Glad to see you've got that one almost nailed down, <s>.

    --
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    Gary S. Terhune, Apr 14, 2005
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    PCR Guest

    Your tracking of installs is very useful. Look how it prevented a
    budding misstatement of fact. But I agree Terhune is ultra-helpful, &
    there is always 99.28% factuality in all Terhune ever says. OK, then.

    Well, an .exe can do anything, I guess. Still... an .inf must do what it
    is coded to do. Some day I must study .inf-talk to see what these two
    may be doing regarding this matter. OK, bye.


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    PCR

    | PCR wrote:
    | > Right, uh, well, uh, yea, right. Anyway, here is your original post
    of
    | > what the first KB891711 did, followed by the original/new
    891711UN.INF.
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    | > I can't quite tell how it has been removed from Ctrl-Alt-Del.
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    | They do it right from within the run kb891711.exe itself.
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    | I never show or list what's in the install inf because it's messy and
    doesn't
    | show what actually gets done anyway and only what's on the to do list.
    I
    | only posted the actual facts of Exactly what got done. ..keeps it
    simple
    | and accurate ..not that anyone wanted to know anyway o:)
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    PCR, Apr 14, 2005
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    AlmostBob Guest

    cdrw, arent they 650MB? about $1 each
    65*650MB Approx 40 Gigs
    40 gig hard drive about 40 dollars (starting at 99c on ebay), Install and
    backup time about 2 hours

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    AlmostBob, Apr 14, 2005
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    AlmostBob Guest

    He wants cdRW, , I got a box of hard drives and some removeable cradles for
    backup

    cdRW $1 cdr $18 for 50 Truro(small town) has not much competition in the 1
    store that sells em

    except those hp lightscribe ones with the photo etch on the back, I want to
    play with them

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    AlmostBob, Apr 14, 2005
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  11. Ah, I see.

    I've never understood the attraction of CDRWs. It's not like they're
    endlessly reusable, and they are probably even *more* prone to getting
    screwed up than CDRs.
     
    Gary S. Terhune, Apr 14, 2005
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    John Corliss Guest

    My experience was that when I formatted CDRWs for drag and drop (UDF) I
    had nothing but problems. About 60% of the time, the format process
    failed. Of those I successfully formatted, about 50% of them wouldn't
    take data successfully. Of those that I successfully put data on, about
    50% of THOSE were unreadable. Of those that were readable, about 50%
    failed at a later date.

    However, when I use a CDRW like a CDR (ISO9600 or Joliet), they are very
    reliable, and can easily be erased and reused. That way, I don't have a
    pile of CDs building up because "it might have something I need on it".
    Kinda "self psych 101".

    YMMV
     
    John Corliss, Apr 14, 2005
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    roman modic Guest

    Hello,

    Uff, thank you for detailed explanation. After all, I think I will not
    do it manually.

    Regards, Roman
     
    roman modic, Apr 14, 2005
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  14. I don't like UDF, either, in any flavor. And perhaps it's that issue
    which colors my thinking, here. Using standard formatting, what do you
    think the life expectancy for CDRWs is?

    Regardless, I agree with AlmostBob--a spare hard drive, particularly an
    external HD if your system supports USB2 or Firewire, is a much more
    sane and economical solution for regularly backing up large amounts of
    data.
     
    Gary S. Terhune, Apr 14, 2005
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    John Corliss Guest

    I mainly use CDRWs for carrying stuff to other sites when I work on
    somebody's computer. I agree about the second hard drive. I have a
    second hard drive in my computer that I clone the main one onto on
    demand. I know it's not as good as a removable, but all in good time. As
    for the life expectancy of a CDRW, when they first came out the PR was
    that they could be written to about 1000 times.

    Yeah, right.
    Would that include Rainier? Seriously, I've never tried it.
     
    John Corliss, Apr 14, 2005
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    Bill in Co. Guest

    Or burn your important stuff to a DVD.
     
    Bill in Co., Apr 14, 2005
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  17. Cost-wise, I can't imagine that DVDs are much different from CDs except
    for convenience.I use DVDs (I forget which format) for permanent storage
    of projects (or copies of other DVDs.) But for re-writable, daily
    backups, I use a pair of external HDs (swapping them regularly.)
     
    Gary S. Terhune, Apr 14, 2005
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  18. Wouldn't know. Neither have I.
     
    Gary S. Terhune, Apr 14, 2005
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  19. Forgot to address this one: I use a few CDs, burned using Roxio EZCD
    (Joliet) for storing stuff that I typically take out to jobs, leaving
    the disk open and adding updated folders as necessary, eventually
    retiring the CD when it gets full. Sort of matches my "Downloads"
    partition, where I keep *every* version of everything. Typically keep
    the CDs segregated according to the version of Windows to which they
    apply. Headed out to work on an XP machine, I grab the XP CD.
     
    Gary S. Terhune, Apr 14, 2005
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    Bill in Co. Guest

    When I make a HD backup (in one burn), I can fit just about everything I
    really need on ONE dvd. So there is no comparison (for what I'm trying to
    do)/ No way am I gonna use 6 or 7 CDs in its place, regardless of the cost!
     
    Bill in Co., Apr 14, 2005
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