AD vs NDS Novell

Discussion in 'Active Directory' started by Antz, Apr 27, 2004.

  1. Antz

    Antz Guest

    AD vs NDS

    I have a MS guy here thinks Novell is the greatest OS.
    Wants AD to be our Authen primary.
    Tells us it's more secure than AD and with help manage
    the network and MS
    OS Boxes better.
    Is that true?
    This guy hates eveything about Microsoft.
    What can we use to manage our network and workstations?
    can't Novell and AD owrk together and manage MS user
    polices?
    How can a answer him back?

    thanks

    Tomi
     
    Antz, Apr 27, 2004
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  2. Antz

    Whatzupee Guest

    I cant say for sure that Novell is more secure than MS but it is very secure. It is without a doubt more steamlined and easier to manage. What you see is what you get. You dont have to naviagate from window to window everything is shown right there in your face. Permissions are not given by default. You must add the permisson manually, There is no everyone group. The users can be nested in OU's and groups and again I say it makes any administrator jobs simplier to manage without unexpected errors for the most part. If I were you I would grab a Novell 5.0 or higher book and glance thru it. You will see exactly what I am saying and Im just a student!!!!!!!! Surely you should check it out.
     
    Whatzupee, Apr 28, 2004
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  3. I have a MS guy here thinks Novell is the greatest OS.
    A system is always as secure as your system admin chooses to make it -
    it's mostly about properly ADMINISTERING a system, rather than an
    inherent "more or less secure" architecture.
    Typical Microsoft basher - we know those guys.....
    Yes, they can - but quite frankly, if you don't already HAVE Novell in
    a big way, AVOID putting it in! It's a dog - don't even get me started
    on the Novell client software..... what a crapload of .........

    There's a ton of really good AD vs. NDS case studies and whitepapers
    on Microsoft's site - then again, this guy will probably point out all
    the Novell propaganda on NDS vs. AD - it's a tie.

    AD case studies (in general):
    http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...=All&CompSize=All&NoMonths=All&submit1=Search)

    Comparing Microsoft's Active Directory to Novell's NDS Version 8
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/compare/adndsv8.asp

    Comparing Microsoft Active Directory to Novell's NDS
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...y/en-us/dnactdir/html/msdn_activedirvsnds.asp

    Active Directory Delivers Leading LDAP Performance
    Tests by KeyLabs Show Active Directory Is as Much as Seven Times
    Faster Than Novell's NDS Version 8 for Common Internet Operations
    http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2000/Feb00/ActiveDirPR.asp

    Just search microsoft.com for "Active Directory NDS" and you'll find
    quite a few more hits

    My biggest PRO AD vote would be simplicity - if you can limit yourself
    to just ONE system (Active Directory), then you don't have any
    interoperability hassles, your admin don't need to know about another
    *two* technologies, and not many folks become really proficient in
    both systems - most are either AD guys also going NDS admin (or the
    other way around).

    And quite frankly, I do *NOT* see Novell NDS as a truly viable
    alternative to be the only directory service in your company (unless,
    as I mentioned before, you've already heavily invested in Novell).

    Just my 2 cents.....

    Marc
    ================================================================
    Marc Scheuner May The Source Be With You!
    Bern, Switzerland m.scheuner(at)inova.ch
     
    Marc Scheuner, Apr 28, 2004
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  4. Antz

    Kerry Hoskin Guest

    I'd second that, you don't see many shops moving form MS to Novell, if you
    don't have Novell then don't bother putting it in, not that NDS isn't good,
    it is, it is very mature and runs on loads of platforms. And yes the Novell
    client software is a total pile of steaming, the problems we used to have
    with it when we were a Netware shop, a total pain

    Kerry
     
    Kerry Hoskin, Apr 29, 2004
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