Adding additional WINS server

Discussion in 'DNS Server' started by Holo20, Feb 22, 2005.

  1. Holo20

    Holo20 Guest

    Thanks to Kevin and Todd's top-notch advice, I cleaned up the poorly state
    that my existing DNS was in, added a second DNS server to the domain, and now
    a TON of errors have disapeared from my event log in Exchange. THANKS!!

    I no want to add a WINS server to the secondary/backup domain controller,
    and am wondering what the procedure should be. Is it like DNS, where I simply
    install the server, then let replication take its normal course, or is there
    more involved?

    Thanks for your time.
     
    Holo20, Feb 22, 2005
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  2. Holo20

    Herb Martin Guest

    Not quite. WINS replication must be enabled
    by the admin -- but the GUI makes that trivial
    if you just DO it.

    Is there a WAN between the (two) WINS servers?
    (There might be some considerations there but it
    will just be easy to just enable it.)
     
    Herb Martin, Feb 23, 2005
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  3. Holo20

    Holo20 Guest

    Thanks for responding Herb.

    There is no WAN; everyting is on the same subnet, same domain, just spread
    out between three buildings. The buildings are connected via fiber, so it is
    all just one physical network.
     
    Holo20, Feb 23, 2005
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  4. Holo20

    Herb Martin Guest

    No WAN, just setup the two (or sets of 2)
    WINS servers as both push and pull partners
    using the defaults for creating the partnerships.

    Make sure you get it "both ways". A<-->B

    If you have more then make each one has a
    partner that can get to the rest.
     
    Herb Martin, Feb 23, 2005
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    Ons subnet and one WINS server?
    Install the WINS server and add it to the DHCP scope in
    option 044 and add option 046 node type (0x8)

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    Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP], Feb 23, 2005
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    Herb, I don't think he wants to set up replicating partners even if he has
    two WINS servers. If all WINS clients are using both WINS server in their
    NIC, replicating parners are for two WINS servers with totally different
    sets of clients.

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    Herb Martin Guest

    Herb, I don't think he wants to set up replicating partners even if he has
    I have no idea where such a practice would originate
    but doing it that way would at best give up most of the
    advantages of multiple WINS servers (reduced name
    resolution traffic, redundance, client lookup performance,
    scalability, etc.).

    By having the WINS database fully replicated almost
    ever network will benefit.
     
    Herb Martin, Feb 23, 2005
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  8. Holo20

    Holo20 Guest

    Thank you. I'm not yet using any of the servers as a DHCP server, rather, the
    router is currently acting in that capacity. This is the state that things
    were in when I got this job some months ago. It is my intention to install
    DHCP server on one of the Server 2003 machines in the next night or two, so I
    will wait on the additional WINS server until after that is done. I should
    probably make a new post out of this, but any advice on a smooth
    installation/integration of DHCP would be appreciated as well.
     
    Holo20, Feb 23, 2005
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    The reason two WINS servers on the same network should not be replicating
    partners is each WINS server has its set of client names registered in its
    database. If both WINS servers have the same clients registered when they
    replicate you will get WINS replication errors because both WINS servers
    have the same names in them.

    The reason for WINS replicating partners is if I have a WINS server on my
    network and you have a WINS server on your Network and we decide we want to
    share our network resources. We would set up a link between our networks and
    we would set our two WINS servers to replicate with each other so all my
    clients are available to you and all your are available to me.




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    Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP], Feb 23, 2005
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    Herb Martin Guest

    By having the WINS database fully replicated almost
    That is exactly why you WANT them to replicate if
    they are expected to work together.
    They can resolve that. (And even were it true this
    would only be a reason for giving each client only
    one WINS server which is NOT necessary but
    much better than this idea of not replicating.)
    The reason for replicating is so that ALL clients
    will be able to FIND ALL servers.
     
    Herb Martin, Feb 24, 2005
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    Herb, all I can tell you is I have done it the way you say, two WINS servers
    all clients pointing to both WINS servers. Then I set them up as replicating
    partners and I got all kinds of conflicting name errors.

    If you don't want to believe me, set up two WINS server as replicating
    partners then set them up as primary and alternate on one machine.
    You will get errors and two identical records owned by two different servers
    in the same data base. It won't work.

    In this scenario, two WINS servers are fine, they just can't be replicating
    partners.

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    Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP], Feb 24, 2005
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    Herb Martin Guest

    We would set up a link between our networks and
    WINS servers have long been multimastered and
    understand how to deal with this.
    IF it is a problem the way to fix it is to not give
    the clients two WINS server settings but even
    that is a kludge for what was some other misconfuration
    or bug.

    What version of the OS? What service packs etc?

    This is NOT a general WINS server problem,
    although I cannot tell you that you never saw a
    problem due to a bug or mistakes you made.
     
    Herb Martin, Feb 24, 2005
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    Todd J Heron Guest

    but any advice on a smooth installation/integration of DHCP would be
    When you do decide to stand up a DHCP server on a Windows server, one point
    that I know both Herb and Kevin will agree on is that you'll need to turn
    DHCP off on the router. Let the DHCP running on Windows server handle
    everything from that point. You configure option 003 router for the
    client's default gateway in the DHCP server scope options, among the other
    settings that Kevin already told you about.
     
    Todd J Heron, Feb 24, 2005
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  14. Holo20

    Herb Martin Guest

    Yes, I agree -- or at least arrange to distribute different
    address ranges but most inexpensive dedicated routers
    probably don't offer that level of control.

    And make sure that router isn't giving ITSELF or an ISP
    DNS server to the the clients IF you have internal DNS
    server(s).
     
    Herb Martin, Feb 24, 2005
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  15. Holo20

    Holo20 Guest

    Thanks to you both. I plan to only have DHCP running on the server, and
    reduce the router to only doing 'router' functions (gateway, forwarding,
    etc.).
     
    Holo20, Feb 24, 2005
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  16. Holo20

    Herb Martin Guest

    Frequently the "router" can remain as a USEFUL
    Caching Only DNS server for the internal DNS
    server to forward to....
     
    Herb Martin, Feb 24, 2005
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