adminstrative password

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Chuck, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. Chuck

    Chuck Guest

    My Niece has a lap top and forgot her password. Can still use computer under
    quest. I seen all the things that cost money to redo the password. but is
    there a method that does not cost.


    Chuck
     
    Chuck, Jun 18, 2009
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  2. Only ONE method that works for Vista. ONE method.

    I walked my sister through it just this past week.

    http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/

    You will need to have a burner that will burn ISO files - Google
    ImgBurn.

    And you will need the detailed instructions for using the disc you
    burned:

    http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/walkthrough.html
     
    Manny Weisbord, Jun 18, 2009
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  3. Chuck

    Chuck Guest

    I am going to need a little more direction on how you do this. Went to both
    areas and did not see what to burn


    Chuck
     
    Chuck, Jun 18, 2009
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  4. You DOWNLOAD the file, and then you burn it.

    To accomplish what is needed requires some moderate computer skills.
    Maybe you aren't up to it.
     
    Manny Weisbord, Jun 18, 2009
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  5. Chuck

    Peter Foldes Guest

    Chuck

    Have you tried to enter through the Administrator. For user enter Administrator and
    for the password leave it Blank. See if you can enter like that. Post back and let
    us know, If you enter then I will tell you how to change the forgotten password
     
    Peter Foldes, Jun 18, 2009
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  6. Chuck

    Chuck Guest

    I have moderate skills but maybe a little better in direction. What you sent
    me took 45 minutes to read and still know answers.


    Chuck
     
    Chuck, Jun 18, 2009
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  7. Chuck

    Malke Guest

    Maybe this will help, Chuck. I will give you a fairly lengthy answer (and
    I'm sorry, but it has to be lengthy) but if you work through it patiently
    you'll be able to do this just fine. The actual work - not counting
    downloading and burning NTpasswd - is easy and quick. It takes only a few
    minutes to boot into NTpasswd and change your niece's password to a blank.
    I'm assuming her user account was an administrator. When you get to the end
    of the NTpasswd part, read my general instructions for setting up Vista
    user accounts at the end of this post. If this really seems too hard - and
    there is no shame in this because we all have our areas of expertise - have
    your niece take the laptop to a nice tech like me who will get her all
    fixed up in under 5 minutes. If you decide to go this route, don't use a
    BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place. But you can do this. ;-)

    http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/

    Download the CD image (.iso) and burn as an image, not as data. This will
    create a bootable CD. You will need third-party burning software. I agree
    with Mr. Weisbord that ImgBurn is excellent. So download ImgBurn and
    install it first.

    http://www.imgburn.com/

    Note: You don't need to download/install ImgBurn if you already have Nero or
    Roxio! Again, you must burn as an *image* not as data.

    Now that you've created the bootable CD with the .iso file you downloaded
    from NTpasswd's website, boot with it. You may need to change the
    computer's boot priority in the BIOS so the optical drive is first. Some
    computers allow you to access a temporary boot menu instead of having to
    change things in the BIOS. An example - to get the temporary boot menu on
    Dell computers, press F12 when you start the machine.

    So now you've booted with NTpasswd and you'll be in the program. Yes, it is
    just text but you don't need to know any commands. Just read the
    instructions and prompts carefully. You can usually just take the defaults.
    When you get to the part about changing passwords, you will see your
    niece's user account. Change that account's password to a blank. Now follow
    the directions to save the changes and reboot your computer. Don't forget
    to remove the CD so you don't boot into NTpasswd again!

    Boot into Windows, log into your niece's user account (which will no longer
    need a password), and there you go.

    General suggestions for setting up user accounts in Vista:

    You absolutely do not want to have only one user account. Like XP and all
    other modern operating systems, Vista is a multi-user operating system with
    built-in system accounts such as Administrator, Default, All Users, and
    Guest. These accounts should be left alone as they are part of the
    operating system structure.

    You particularly don't want only one user account with administrative
    privileges on Vista because the built-in Administrator account (normally
    only used in emergencies) is disabled by default. If you're running as
    Administrator for your daily work and that account gets corrupted, things
    will be Difficult. It isn't impossible to activate the built-in
    Administrator to rescue things, but it will require third-party tools and
    working outside the operating system.

    The user account that is for your daily work should be a Standard user, with
    the extra administrative user (call it something like "CompAdmin" or "Tech"
    or the like) only there for elevation purposes. After you create
    "CompAdmin", log into it and change your regular user account to Standard.
    Then log back into your regular account.

    If you want to go directly to the Desktop and skip the Welcome Screen with
    the icons of user accounts, you can do this:

    Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]
    Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by
    UAC

    Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this
    computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the
    desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password
    for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if
    there is no password (null).

    Malke
     
    Malke, Jun 19, 2009
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  8. Chuck

    Kromag Guest

    If you can start the machine into the command prompt and what not you can
    try this:

    http://www.petri.co.il/change_user_password_from_the_command_prompt.htm

    Else, you can try to reboot your system into safe-mode with the **default
    Admin** account
    and change her password there.

    Once you do this create a password reset disk which can be put on a USB or
    w/e.

    So you can then shut down some of these other insecure tools.

    Like setting a password to your default (hidden, per se) Admin account.

    Regards,
    Kromag.

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    Kromag, Jun 20, 2009
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  9. Chuck

    Kromag Guest

    You will most likely have to enter the following at command prompt:
    * Get the user account name.
    Do not need to use: net user exampleAccount examplePassword /domain

    IIRC, the /domain switch isn't needed on your system.


    Regards,
    Kromag.

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    Kromag, Jun 20, 2009
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  10. Chuck

    Chuck Guest

    That did not work thanks




     
    Chuck, Jun 20, 2009
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  11. Chuck

    Gordon Guest

    Err what bit "didn't work"?
     
    Gordon, Jun 21, 2009
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  12. Chuck

    Chuck Guest

    Leaving admin. password blank

     
    Chuck, Jun 21, 2009
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  13. Chuck

    Gordon Guest

    Soooooooo - presumably........what you mean is that you couldn't log on
    to the Administrator Account at all? If that's NOT what you mean then
    PLEASE be more specific....
     
    Gordon, Jun 21, 2009
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  14. Maybe you should consider paying someone to do this for you if you find it
    beyond the scope of your computer knowledge. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
     
    Richard Urban, Jun 22, 2009
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  15. Chuck

    Chuck Guest

    I did went to a friend and he went into the registry and blanked it out. I
    got copy of disk just in case. Thank all of you for your help.


    Chuck
     
    Chuck, Jun 25, 2009
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