Aero Glass - Is it Usefull?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by JS, Jun 29, 2006.

  1. JS

    JS Guest

    Just installed Vista, no issues. But the Aero Glass look, I just don't see
    any value.
    Tell me what advantage there is to Aero?
    Are the default settings for Aero after a fresh install OK, or does more
    adjusting need to be done to get the best of Aero?

    JS, Jun 29, 2006
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  2. If you don't see the value then don't bother with it. It is a
    personalization feature. To each his own.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 29, 2006
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    MICHAEL Guest

    It has the same amount of value as a beautiful lady in
    a low cut red dress.

    It's eye candy. ;-)

    MICHAEL, Jun 29, 2006
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    Travis King Guest

    You are sure that you're viewing Aero Glass and not just Aero Basic, aren't
    you? Aero Basic is ugly. (and many others agree)
    Travis King, Jun 29, 2006
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    Tom Scales Guest

    If you believe they are of equal value, then your priorities are really,
    really wrong :)
    Tom Scales, Jun 29, 2006
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    MICHAEL Guest

    What's on the inside is most important. ;-)

    Don't be so superficial. :)

    MICHAEL, Jun 29, 2006
  7. JS

    JS Guest

    Is there an easy way to identify which mode Glass or Basic?

    JS, Jun 29, 2006
  8. Do you see a semi-transparent Task Bar?

    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 29, 2006
  9. JS

    JS Guest



    JS, Jun 29, 2006
  10. That's Glass.

    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 29, 2006
  11. JS

    JS Guest


    I'll try it for a while to see if there is any value.

    JS, Jun 29, 2006
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    Travis King Guest

    Have you experimented with Flip-3D (windows key + tab), Flip with live
    thumbnails (alt + tab), and the live thumbnail previews? Those are all
    parts of Glass and without Glass, you cannot have those.
    Travis King, Jun 29, 2006
  13. JS

    JS Guest

    Thanks, I'll try it.


    JS, Jun 29, 2006
  14. The quick launch toolbar icon for flip3d is back in build 5456. It was out
    for a couple of builds. When you get to RC1 you will be able to use flip3d
    with the mouse.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 29, 2006
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    Travis King Guest

    Good to know. Thanks. From screenies I've seen on 5456, I've seen a few
    subtle changes. Is it true that there is a new cursor scheme in place? I
    saw a screenshot of a new cursor scheme. (Unless someone just edited it.)
    The thing I don't like about the cursors is the 'stub' on the cursor is a
    little too short in my opinion, but maybe that's just because I've been used
    to the same cursor for seven years now. The Windows Mail icon has changed
    and is no longer the old OE icon. Colin mentioned the Flip-3D icon
    returning. It also appears that your icon on the logon screen is larger
    now. I also saw that the 'add gadgets' window is not completely
    transparent. The installation window also adds 'Check compatibility online'
    just above the 'Install now' option. I also noticed a few subtle changes in
    the task manager such as the 'services' tab. The system performance rating
    number (at least in the system properties window) no longer is in the shape
    of a circle but is instead in the shape of a square. A few changes in the
    networking section. A few new icons. And so on...
    Travis King, Jun 29, 2006
  16. Yes, the new cursor scheme is there. There are lots of changes as the
    result of tester feedback.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 29, 2006
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    Chad Harris Guest

    You can turn off aero glass and you can use a key combo to turn it off and

    If you find the Aero Glass user interface annoying, orif it is slow on your
    computer configuration, simply press Ctrl+Shift+F9 to turn it off. Press
    this key combination again to re-enable it.

    Aero glass is just marketing to people who would rather that it look good
    than work well. MSFT has done tons of focus groups where the result was
    that the unwashed masses of MSFT customers that they consider
    condescendingly as stupid and manipulable don't care whether something
    functions well as long as it "looks cool."

    If you do a careful analysis of most of the promotions that MSFT makes for
    Office any version or Windows any version they appeal to lower common
    denominators, are vague and devoid of detailed information on features, and
    are presented in superficial generalities.

    Some of us watched a really moronic presentation by someone "from MSFT" at a
    joint AMD presentation and quickly realized he new next to nothing about
    Windows. We were peppered by such crebreal insights as "Windows XP SP2 is a
    really great operating system" and "Vista is really cool and will be a big

    The OEM system builders that were a large part of the audience, hammered
    him with questions like "Why are we required by MSFT to provide genuine
    retail media and your named partners provide crap recovery discs and
    partitions that just don't work"?

    Answer: "Ya wanna buy 50, 000 OEM preinstalls of Windows and then we'll
    letcha screw the public just like the large OEMs." Also amusingly MSFT's
    new mantra at these events is "we're really going after people who sell
    pirated software." Fact: You're going after the 1% of people you can find
    mostly in the US despite your cloak and dagger hiring investigators to wait
    in cars in European alleys."

    To why is WGA calling home: "We're um considering what to do and it will
    probably do this less." Questioner: No --you don't get it we'll just
    remove the component that calls home with software that's all over the web.

    At no time did it occur to the MSFT presenter that the OEM software crap
    they hose the public with works for anything. One of the bright bulbs from
    AMD chimed into a question about losing the media from the 300 named
    partners and the OEM system builders replacing it that "when they lose the
    recovery CD it's like the idiots lose a $100 bill." Far from it processor
    boy, its actually that they lose a piece of worthless crap on a disc.

    Aero glass effect much better than MSFT has in Vista and its spinoffs and
    sequels Aurora, Diamond ect. have been available for several years via 3rd
    party and they are all over the web. So are 3D effects that MSFT may never
    include in the OS. The caviat is you have to watch their CPU use.

    Chad Harris, Jun 29, 2006
  18. Don't hold back, Chad, tell us what you really think.
    Colin Barnhorst, Jun 29, 2006
  19. JS

    Chad Harris Guest

    Too much superficial holding back. Too much obsequieous behavior by people
    who hope to be included in whatever Beta. Too much screwing of a large base
    of their customers. Too much sucking up that reminds me of elementary
    school brown nosing. What I really think is I can see in countless threads
    that OEM named partners make tons by not supporting customers and MSFT is
    indifferent to this. OEM named partners refuse to supply customers with
    adequate media or partitions to reach Win RE in Vista or the Startup
    Recovery tools in Win RE and they refuse to supply customers with the same
    to do a repair install in XP. I really think this cycle is going to repeat
    itself in Vista and I heard MSFT give stupid answers to this very issue
    raised by multiple OEM system builders last night.

    I will try not to hold back. Holding back is for the superficial and it is
    what sheep urge. LOL the stupid administration of your country wanted the
    NY Times to hold back the SWIFT surveillance program and the wiretapping
    surveillance and threatened them. Those kind of threats to the press have
    ended very poorly for the administration threatening. MSFT was asked on
    June 1 and June 2 to turn over all their customer private information and
    web searches via MSN for 2 years and save them and hold back that info from
    their customers.

    Chad Harris, Jun 29, 2006
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    jonah Guest

    What I really think is I can see in countless threads

    I totally agree with this Chad, the problem IMO is lack of education
    in new / non-enthusiast users. I always advise anybody who asks to
    have a PC built to spec by a small OEM retailer and insist on a full
    MSFT OEM disk and to go nowhere near the likes of Dell, HP, PC World
    etc. The current PC World TV ads in the UK make me cringe, £495 for a
    crap laptop stuffed to the brim with "value added" spyware and they
    chuck in NIS 2006 for 1/2 Price. Also they go on at length about
    "surfing the net in the garden" without once mentioning an internet
    connection and wireless router might possibly be an idea.

    The only way this is going to change is for a massive public outcry
    combined with a proper popular press campaign to shine light on this
    issue (and the WGA fiasco) while they are at it, otherwise people will
    continue to "pay peanuts get monkeys" which is OK if they are aware
    thats what they are getting, trouble is people are not aware they are
    being conned.
    jonah, Jun 29, 2006
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