After creating 17 backup discs, Vista tells me backup "failed"

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by AS, Oct 9, 2007.

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    AS Guest

    I just spent a day and a half creating several back-up disks so that I can
    reinstall my OS. After creating disc # 17 (almost 18 hours after I created
    disc #1), I did what I did for the previous 17 discs and inserted a new disc
    #18. I then received this error:

    "The backup did not complete successfully. An error occurred. The following
    information might help you sove the problem: The wrong diskette is in the
    drive. Insert %2 (Volume serial number: %3) into drive %1. (0x80070022)."

    Again, I had already created 17 BACKUP DISKS and if I have to start over,
    well some blood will be spilled tonight (and it will be my laptop's and
    Vista's...)

    Please tell me all is not lost. I had previously installed Vista on a
    less-than-year-old laptop which apparently did not have enough juice to run
    this OS successfully (or efficiently or even slowly) and I'd had enough of
    waiting 30 seconds for a photo to open or 5 minutes for the the thing to boot
    up. So I wanted to install a fresh copy of XP and get out of this he**. So I
    did what I was supposed to do and let Vista do the backup. I have no idea
    where to go from here. Any advice would be most appreciated.

    --Annik
     
    AS, Oct 9, 2007
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    Kevin Weaver Guest

    Ok, I won't tell you that you will have to start from scratch again.

    Why are you backing up to disc ? Back up to a folder on your hard drive.
    Much faster. Or run a image program.
     
    Kevin Weaver, Oct 9, 2007
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    Mark M Morse Guest

    The spectrum of those using Microsoft software in general, and Windows in
    particular, is very broad; my intent for this post is to speak to the users
    who do not lie towards the endpoints of this spectrum. I realize ahead of
    time that this is going to be a long post (perhaps mostly off-topic in this
    thread), but I'm posting it here anyway. I see many kinds of anger in
    microsoft.public newsgroups, and I, too, need a moment to vent now and
    again.

    I believe that the original poster wants a clean reinstallation and has no
    other medium onto which the backup can be saved. For myself, I no longer
    consider freshly installing any of the 21st-century versions of Windows onto
    anything other than a completely-wiped hard drive. I no longer use upgrade
    Windows products, either. The post-9x versions of Windows are way too
    complex, and their issues way too numerous, for me to have confidence that
    post-installation problems (within a reasonable time interval) could not be
    a function of pre-existing conditions. My rhetorical question is, "Why
    skip eliminating *any* potential factors over which you have control when
    the end goal is to reduce the number of issues overall"? This question
    becomes less rhetorical in the light of how often a clean reinstallation of
    Windows turns out to be the easiest solution at the end of the day. It's
    easy when you're ready and waiting, that is.

    Kevin's rhetorical question makes an important point, also. It is no longer
    reasonable to rely on floppy disks for system-backup purposes if you are
    using any 21st-century version of Windows because it's definitely too much
    useless disks and wasted time when something goes wrong. (I recall swapping
    many floppy disks using the pre-21st-century versions of Windows, and some
    of those memories are not-very-happy times. In hindsight, it was stupid for
    me to have waited nearly three years after writeable CDs became available to
    begin using them.)

    After 20+ years of Microsoft experience, I'm convinced that the best way to
    go with Microsoft software today is mindset, preparation and priorities --
    in that order.

    Mindset: Train yourself to be satisfied with the basic functionalities that
    work for you, and forget about glitches related to cosmetics, the loss of
    bells or whistles, and all of the *minor* irritations that Microsoft must
    now pass from one version to the next. This is hard to do because we want
    both what we pay for and our expectations (all the way from "faster and
    easier" to "Wow") to be reasonably met. But, Microsoft's flagship product
    has become a run-away locomotive; Windows has evolved beyond the ability of
    any team at Microsoft to get a handle on it. Yet, Microsoft's business plan
    does not evolve as a "partner" in support of Windows. To stay one step
    ahead, Microsoft continues to aggressively seek out market share practically
    anywhere they sense opportunity for potential profit or some degree of
    revenue stabilization, and they continue to do it in the absence of certain
    foundational considerations. As long as Microsoft continues to try
    assimilate so many acquired technologies and ideas into Windows to market
    some integrated, seamless be-all-for-all OS concept, Windows becomes more
    complex, and the relative coding errors increase. Try to get used to it.
    This strategy also leads to misguided development-resource shifting. (An
    acquaintance at Microsoft's Redmond campus told me in late August that one
    might get the impression that Vista is "already obsolete" if they were to
    see some of the priorities being allocated to Microsoft's next vision of
    Windows features versus some of the priorities being given to address what
    remain as serious issues with released products.) I view the overall
    situation as a vicious cycle, and I force myself to deal with it every week
    through mindset, preparation, and priorities because I do not really have a
    choice of platforms.

    Preparation: Keep reminding yourself that loss of even basic functionality
    *will* happen, probably proportionate to your setup and usage. You *will*
    eventually experience some degree of disaster. If you're busy, then it may
    be a few times per year. Get ready now. Take a serious look at your setup,
    and plan ahead. If you do not have an external hard drive, start saving
    money today to buy one. If your system cannot archive to CD or DVD discs,
    then you might consider that hardware upgrade, instead; don't make the same
    stupid mistake that I made by putting it off. Be organized. Start putting
    together a disaster-preparedness kit; get your drivers archived with notes
    and instructions, keep your passwords handy, find backup software you like
    and use it weekly to protect what's important to you. Your computer usage
    might call for more extensive preparation. I've saved several of my old
    systems from the past two decades, and I still use them. If you're lucky
    enough to have more than one computer, then dedicate your major tasks to one
    system or the other, not both. There are four computers in my place that
    are on almost every day. Three more get turned on once a month or so. I
    use separate computers for financial transactions, for play, for trying
    experiments (eg: freeware, shareware, Vista). Should I be embarrassed that
    I set up a dedicated laptop for responding to SPAM? I'm not embarrassed to
    say that most of my postal correspondence and database work is done on a
    Hewlett-Packard 486 desktop with a 16MB hard drive running Windows 3.1 on
    DOS 6.22, MS Word 5 and some version of dBase. Windows 3.1 is lightening
    fast for very basic computer work. Within 45 seconds of sitting down, the
    new document is open, the address is typed, and the envelope is coming out
    of the printer. Works 8 on my 2.16GHz TOSHIBA with 2GB RAM and Windows XP
    might still be launching. After reading this far, I hope that you get my
    point.

    Priorities: Which of the following two situations is more worthy of
    attention? Some pop-up taskbar notification balloons in Windows Vista still
    appear behind the taskbar at times when you really need to know what they
    say, along with 649 other irritating bugs and issues. Roughly 650* children
    under age 12 died from easily-preventable causes in developing countries
    during the 45 minutes that it took for me to type this post. Now do you get
    my point?

    ~ Mark

    *extrapolated from 1997 World Health Organization data based on annual
    non-HIV mortality estimates
     
    Mark M Morse, Oct 9, 2007
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    AJR Guest

    AS - Have done more backups han I can count on my fingers, however never
    involving "so many" disks- so this is onmly a shot at your problem: Are you
    certain you were being asked to insert another "blank" disk - backup may
    have been at the stage where you were to insert disk #1 to be, in some way,
    annotated to indicate the number of disks in the set. Unfortunately the eror
    code is one of the many "generic" types - genraal but not sspecific

    An aside: From your post "...So I wanted to install a fresh copy of XP and
    get out of this he**. So I did what I was supposed to do and let Vista do
    the backup. ..." - what is the source of "what I was supposed to do"?
    Reason you did not reformat drive and clean install XP?

    BTW _ Knowledge Database Article "927522 -
    "How to restore a computer to a previous windows insstallation after you
    install Vista" may be of value.
     
    AJR, Oct 9, 2007
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    John Hanley Guest

    When I started out with my Vista Home Premium computer, I tried
    to use DVD's as my backup media; however, this was futile for me because it
    took too long and used many DVD's. I bought an external 160 GB USB drive
    for about $60 that I use solely for backups and that has made my computer
    backup management a breeze. The problem with backups subsequent to the first
    one: most of your files do actually change between backups even though you
    did not overtly change anything; things like your anti-virus program marking
    the file as ok are enough to trigger the need to back it up again. Get that
    external drive and you will be glad you did! Cheers....
     
    John Hanley, Oct 9, 2007
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