After the in-place upgrade...

Discussion in 'Server Migration' started by Peter, Aug 4, 2004.

  1. Peter

    Peter Guest

    Hi Everyone;

    after doing an in-place upgrade to w3k server on new hardware, many
    recommend taking the old pdc off-line.

    Stupid Questions Of the Day:
    Notes: w3k will be in mixed mode, i still have a couple of NT4 servers that
    will be upgraded later.
    Mixed client environment w98/xp/w2k

    1. my data resides on the old PDC/BDC that is being replace, so need to xfer
    the data to new server using either robocopy or fsmigrate utility. can i
    keep the old server up till i xfer the data over.

    2. since the new server has a different netbios name than original server,
    once i copy the data over, and shut-off the old server, can i rename the w3k
    server to the old server name (or will this be a pain or need to jump
    through hurdles) , justwant to save time from re-mapping drives etc...
    i could use a login script to do this, but just want to keep everything the
    same and simple for now.

    3. I have a 2nd w3k box to install also (from scratch.... no in-place
    upgrade), to be used for printing services and other apps. When installing
    the 2nd w3k box, do i "join" it to the domain at install, or make it a
    "workgroup" server for now, then after installation is complete, use dcpromo
    to add it to the new "PDC" w3k server. -- basically i want this server to
    also act as backup/replication for the dns/ad etc for the main W3K Server..
    This box is also replacing some other servers as mentioned a print server,
    once again, since the printers are on a different server, and the clients
    are mapped to the old server printers, how did you xfer your clients to the
    new print server printer mappings - login script ???, walk to each
    workstation ?

    4. when the server is upgraded, can i take advantage of group policy, AD for
    the xp/w2k clients, even though the server will be in W3K mixed mode.

    5. in your experience, how long did your "in-place upgrade" take. any hidden
    'cavets'

    Thanks In Advance
    Peter
     
    Peter, Aug 4, 2004
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  2. Hi Peter,

    Thanks for your posting here.

    1. Do you still have NT PDC in the domain? In Windows 2003 domain, you can
    also keep some WinNT BDCs if it is in Interim Functional Level (Interim
    Mode).

    For more information about Windows 2003 domain and forest function levels,
    please refer to the following documents.

    322692 HOW TO: Raise Domain and Forest Functional Levels in Windows Server
    2003
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=322692

    2. You can change new file server name using the original one after you
    offline the original one and delete the related records in AD and DNS.

    In fact, if you would like keep the original share path, you can try the
    File Server Migration Toolkit.
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/upgrading/nt4/tooldocs/msfsc.mspx

    Reference:

    White Paper:
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/upgrading/nt4/tooldocs/msfst_over
    view.mspx

    Windows Server 2003: Scalable File Server Consolidation
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/fileconsol.mspx

    3. I would like to recommend that you join the computer to Domain then run
    dcpromo to promote it to be a DC and install DNS service on it. As for the
    printer migration, I recommend that you try a tool called Microsoft Print
    Migrator to perform printer migration.

    ================
    Print Server Upgrade, Migration, and Interoperability
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/fileandprint/print/miginte
    rop.asp

    Print Migrator 3.0 Download
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/fileandprint/print/downloa
    d.asp

    Microsoft Print Migrator 3.0 Document
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/docs/PrintMigrator3.doc

    4. Yes, you can deploy the Group Policy in the Windows 2003 domain now.

    5. That depends. I believe the following documents will be helpful.

    HOW TO: Upgrade a Windows NT 4.0-Based PDC to a Windows Server 2003
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=326209

    Upgrading from Windows NT Server 4.0 to Windows Server 2003
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/nt4/nt4tows
    03-2.mspx

    Windows NT Server 4.0 Upgrade Guide
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/partners/isvs/ntmigrate.mspx

    Have a nice day!

    Regards,
    Bob Qin
    Microsoft Online Partner Support

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    Bob Qin [MSFT], Aug 5, 2004
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  3. Peter

    Peter Guest

    Hi Bob,
    thanks for all the info, feeling more comfortable now.

    1. Do you still have NT PDC in the domain? In Windows 2003 domain, you can
    also keep some WinNT BDCs if it is in Interim Functional Level (Interim
    Mode).migration when i put in the new server, and has the data i need on it, once
    xferred, i'll shut if off for recovery purposes.

    yes, i saw the print migration utility and fsmigrate thta i will look at

    thanks again
    Peter
     
    Peter, Aug 5, 2004
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  4. Hi Peter,

    If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to post
    here. It is our pleasure to be of assistance.

    Thank you again for using our newsgroup!

    Regards,
    Bob Qin
    Microsoft Online Partner Support

    Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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    Bob Qin [MSFT], Aug 5, 2004
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