Analyze Disk Fragmentation

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Benzmum, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. Benzmum

    Benzmum Guest

    Hi. I've just moved over from XP to Vista, and I'm wondering why vista
    doesn't give me the option of Analyzing whether or not my drive needs
    defragmenting. I'd do the analysis once a month in XP and it almost always
    told me it was unnecessary.

    I'd be grateful if an MVP could respond to my question.
     
    Benzmum, Sep 24, 2007
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  2. Benzmum

    David Guest

    try Auslogics defrag. it's free. sorry I'm not an MVP.
     
    David, Sep 24, 2007
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  3. Try this; open the command promt elevated as an administrator. At the
    command prompt type defrag c: -s

    This will analyze the hard drive and tell you the fragmentation level of the
    drive.

    Hope that helps.

    Eddie Johnson
     
    Eddie Johnson, Sep 25, 2007
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  4. Benzmum

    Benzmum Guest

    Duuu-uuhhh.... Where's the command prompt in XP? I don't see "Run" where it
    was in XP (i.e., on the start menu).
     
    Benzmum, Sep 25, 2007
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  5. Benzmum

    Benzmum Guest

    ....Sorry - make that "where's the command prompt in VISTA?"
     
    Benzmum, Sep 25, 2007
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  6. I was also at first frustrated by vista not having a 'run' option righ
    on the start menu. But here's a quick way to get command prompt t
    open
    Create a new notepad document, and type in it:

    command.co

    Go to save as, change the file type from 'text (.txt)' to 'all files'
    and name it [anything].ba
    in effect, you're making a batch file to tell your computer to ru
    command prompt. it shouldn't be this complicated, and probably isn't
    but that's how i've been using command prompt in vista so far
     
    steaminshrooms, Sep 25, 2007
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  7. of course, it also works to open the start menu and type 'command' i
    the search bar. it'll come up in a few seconds, i personally prefer t
    save myself the extra second of typing
     
    steaminshrooms, Sep 25, 2007
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  8. oh, right...you're going to need to run as an administrator. so to d
    that, right click on the batch file you've created, click creat
    shortcut. the name shouldn't matter. right click the shortcut, clic
    properties. go to the 'shortcut' tab, click 'advanced', and then chec
    the check box to run it as an admin. then just run your batch file fro
    the shortcut, and windows should ask you for permission each time. yo
    can use a similar method if you open command prompt's properties whe
    you locate it via search
     
    steaminshrooms, Sep 25, 2007
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  9. Benzmum

    EliteKat Guest

    The command prompt is located in Accessories. click start, click programs,
    click accessories, right click command prompt, click run as administrator
     
    EliteKat, Sep 25, 2007
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  10. Benzmum

    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    To add the Run command to the Start menu: Right click on the Start Orb > select
    Properties > Start Menu tab > Customize button > scroll down and check "Run
    command".


    I Bleed Blue and Gold
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    Cal Bear '66, Sep 25, 2007
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  11. Benzmum

    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    To add the Command Prompt to the start menu: Start Orb > All Programs >
    Accessories > right click on Command Prompt and select "Pin to Start Menu" (you
    can also select "Add to Quick Launch" .


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    Cal Bear '66, Sep 25, 2007
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  12. wow
    i missed THAT? :eek:
    i was in the start menu properties literally 5 minutes ago, telling it
    to show system administrative tools in the programs menu
    and I still didnt see it ><
    ....
    thanks for the info cal bear ^^
     
    steaminshrooms, Sep 25, 2007
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  13. Benzmum

    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    You're welcome.

    Wouldn't it be nice if all problems had such a simple solution?


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    Cal Bear '66, Sep 25, 2007
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  14. Benzmum

    Chris Cowles Guest

    In the search box right above the start button, type 'command'. Right
    click it when it shows up, choose 'run as administrator'.
     
    Chris Cowles, Sep 26, 2007
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  15. Benzmum

    Benjamin Guest

    Another Vista defrag issue! IMHO, analyzing, defragmenting etc manually
    or on a schedule for individual drives is pretty much outdated. For a
    while now, the idea has been to automate the whole defrag process
    because we ought to move past the archaic idea of the user having to
    schedule or manually perform system maintenance regularly. Instead, it
    should be the responsibility of the PC/software to run it's own
    maintenance automatically. As I mentioned in another post, it's only a
    matter of time before manual/scheduled defragging goes the way of the
    dinosaurs, as it is becoming on servers.
     
    Benjamin, Sep 26, 2007
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  16. Benzmum

    Benzmum Guest

    Thanks so much, everyone, for your input. Eddie, Cassandra, & Cal: big help
    with those tips.

    I've run defrag c: -s and got some stats, but I never got the > prompt back,
    and my CPU is still chugging away (about 20 minutes later). How long should
    it take to do the analysis? XP used to take about 30 seconds.
     
    Benzmum, Sep 28, 2007
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  17. Benzmum

    Benzmum Guest

    Well I think I just defragmented c drive. I started out with a report saying
    percent file fragmentation = 1%. When the process completed, 2 hours later,
    it said fragmentation was 0%. So I guess -s doesn't just do an analysis.
     
    Benzmum, Sep 28, 2007
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  18. Benzmum

    Benzmum Guest

    Further on defragmenting analysis: I just discovered that when you open the
    Disk Defragmenter in Vista, it automatically analyzes your hard drive. It
    took about 3 minutes, tops, and came up with "Your file system performance is
    good. You do not need to defragment at this time." Just tripped over this
    while reading help files on performance and maintenance. So there it is - as
    simple as that!
     
    Benzmum, Sep 29, 2007
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    f_vo Guest

    I do not get it that many times in different threads it is said: "you
    have to log on as an administrator???? I thought everybody was
    administrator on his own PC?????

    Why not?

    Fran├žois
     
    f_vo, Sep 29, 2007
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  20. Benzmum

    Cal Bear '66 Guest

    With Vista, as part of it's improved security scheme, you are not a true
    administrator. You are an "Administrative User". The true administrator
    account can be enabled however.


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    Cal Bear '66, Sep 29, 2007
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