Antispyware

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Zygy, Jan 19, 2008.

  1. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    I am currently using SuperAntiSpyware, but I would be happier if I had
    another one, since I am advised one will not always do a totally
    comprehensive job. I used to also have Ad Aware, when I was on Win. XP, but
    they it is not yet compatible with Win. Vista. What others are as good as
    these two and are compatible with Win.Vista?
     
    Zygy, Jan 19, 2008
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    MickK Guest

    I use Ad-Aware 2007 (free) with Vista with apparently no problem.
    I also use Spybot S&D but have disabled the Resident protection as I
    considered it might cause some conflict with both the security included with
    Vista and also Avast! which I also use.

    MickK
     
    MickK, Jan 19, 2008
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    Charlie42 Guest

    The problem isn't SuperAntiSpyware in itself, but an issue with anti spyware
    programs in general: None of them have a sufficient detection rate. Experts
    therefore recommend you scan with multiple anti spywares, hoping that one
    will catch what the other(-s) do not.

    I assume you also use Windows Defender, so theoretically you should be well
    covered.
    There are several: Spybot S&D, AVG Anti-Spyware, Spyware Doctor, and of
    course the ones that come with security suites like Norton, McAfee, Eset and
    F-Secure.

    In addition you can run an online scanner like Kaspersky or HouseCall every
    now and then, just keep in mind that these are also advertising tools, and
    may portray things a bit dramatic in order to make you purchase a suite.

    Charlie42
     
    Charlie42, Jan 19, 2008
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  4. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    Hi, Thank you for the reply. There may not be any problem using 2007 ver. of
    Ad-Aware on Win. Vista, but is it doing the job it should be? Ad-Aware will
    not confirm that 2007 is suitable for Win. Vista. I asked them at least
    three times. Try yourself.
     
    Zygy, Jan 19, 2008
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    Gerald3092 Guest

    Go here.... pick one off top three.... end of story.
    TopTenReviews.Com - Antispyware
    http://anti-spyware-review.toptenreviews.com/

    Vista Ready.

    I am currently using SuperAntiSpyware, but I would be happier if I had
    another one, since I am advised one will not always do a totally
    comprehensive job. I used to also have Ad Aware, when I was on Win. XP, but
    they it is not yet compatible with Win. Vista. What others are as good as
    these two and are compatible with Win.Vista?
     
    Gerald3092, Jan 19, 2008
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  6. Zygy

    Gerald3092 Guest

    A "must see"....
    December 2007 Windows Vista Application Compatibility Update
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943302

    I am currently using SuperAntiSpyware, but I would be happier if I had
    another one, since I am advised one will not always do a totally
    comprehensive job. I used to also have Ad Aware, when I was on Win. XP, but
    they it is not yet compatible with Win. Vista. What others are as good as
    these two and are compatible with Win.Vista?
     
    Gerald3092, Jan 19, 2008
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    Robinb Guest

    Superantispyware happens to be one of the best antispyware around
    and you should purchase it so it runs in real time.
    Another good one that you can get free or purchase is AVG free antispyware
    Adaware 2007 is very funky in Vista and in XP
    I was using it and found it had so many problems on both operatiing systems
    that i removed it
    Spybot Search and Destroy 1.5 runs fine in vista too but I would take off
    tea timer when installing it.
    robin
     
    Robinb, Jan 19, 2008
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    Victek Guest

    I regularly use different antispyware applications to cleanup badly infected
    machines and I recommend Spyware Doctor which can be used "On Demand". I
    like SD because the "Intelli-scan" (short scan) is very fast which is
    important when I'm working and also because it does a good job of finding
    and removing malware. I can't recommend Adaware 2007. In my experience
    it's detection capability is very poor.
     
    Victek, Jan 19, 2008
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  9. If you will go to http://www.lavasoft.com/ and look at the picture of
    the Adaware box in the upper left-hand corner of the page, you will
    note that it says there "Windows Vista Compatible."

    I can confirm that it works fine in Windows Vista.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Jan 19, 2008
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  10. NonSuch [MVP], Jan 20, 2008
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  11. Zygy

    RyanHell078 Guest

    Vista 64 + AdAware = no
    They are not compatible. I have tried. Maybe 32 bit is, but not 64 bit
     
    RyanHell078, Jan 20, 2008
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  12. Zygy

    Zygy Guest

    Hi, Thank you all for the worthwhile responses. I am 101% satisfied that I
    will find what I need!
     
    Zygy, Jan 20, 2008
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  13. Why don't you simply stop installing spyware?
    AdAware is a proven piece of crap.
    That's only a problem if you actually believe it adds value to install
    it.
    Well, no anti-products can work reliably. Using not inherently broken
    software in combination with your brain works, though.
     
    Straight Talk, Jan 20, 2008
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  14. Erhhmm, no you don't. Simply because that's impossible.
    Yeah, right. Load your machine with tons of anti-crap. What makes you
    believe this has anything to do with security?
     
    Straight Talk, Jan 20, 2008
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  15. The problem is that the idea of scanning for spyware is broken already
    by design.
    Huh? What does "well covered" mean?
    Yes. The amount of crap available is overwhelming.
    What led you to believe that online scanners have anything to do with
    security? Commercials?
     
    Straight Talk, Jan 20, 2008
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  16. Zygy

    Charlie42 Guest

    And by that I believe you mean an infection may evade detection or disable a
    scanner, correct? True, but still a lot of spy and adwares are found and
    dealt with by scanners...

    Although a previously infected computer can never be 100% trusted again
    (unless you wipe and reinstall), the anti spywares on the market *are* able
    to help you identify problems you otherwise might never have found. That is
    the primary reason for using them. That some culprits might pass under the
    radar, doesn't change that fact.

    And a bulldozer wipe and reinstall is a bit over the top when all you need
    to get rid of is some minor to mid annoyance, like a pop up advertiser,
    toolbar or harmless cookie.
    That the OP follows the general advice to run more than one anti spyware. My
    point is I don't think "Zygy" needs to install further programs.
    I think I made myself clear in my post. Though I believe they can have some
    value in identifying problems, they should first and foremost be considered
    as advertising tools. False positives should hardly come as a surprise,
    exercise sound judgement if you use them.

    Charlie42
     
    Charlie42, Jan 20, 2008
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  17. Correct. Since the idea is broken by design, you can decide to play
    along and catch the small fish and let the big ones go unattended. I
    prefer to avoid it entirely.
    But why "deal with the problem" in such unreliable way when it's not
    that hard to avoid it completely?
    True. But the challenge for layman is to confirm a system to be clean.
    Heck, even a lot of "experts" fail that challenge.
    But "well covered" indicates also that ad- and spyware is somehow
    inevitable and that you therefore need to cover "as much as possible".
    That's a fallacy.
     
    Straight Talk, Jan 20, 2008
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  18. Zygy

    Charlie42 Guest

    Thereby leaving fish that could have been caught to run the pond? We
    disagree.
    Hard? Perhaps not to computer wizes, but they are a scarce resource. Most
    home and small business users simply do not have the motivation to learn how
    to avoid troubles that can be prevented by knowledge, a hw firewall and hips
    protection, or something along those lines. Not to mention their kids...

    Way to often I come across multiple infected computers, where the operator
    just couldn't be bothered with downloading Tuesday patches, and didn't have
    an understanding of what things like "reliable source" and "signature
    subscription renewal" meant.

    And I can't really scold anyone for it either, the average user is exactly
    that: A user. Computers are an aid, his or her training and work is in a
    different field. They want to use their computer for production or leisure,
    not dig into the esoterics of security and tweaks.

    I think it is unwise to advice against using security software, for the
    simple reason you would then be factoring out the human in front of the
    keyboard. Most of us need, and are quite happy with, software that will do
    the policing for us.
    Agreed. Like I said, there's no such thing as 100% here. When there's
    suspicion of a compromize, malicious attack, rootkit aso., most network
    admins know they're in for a late night shift rebuilding the system.
    In my opinion, ad and spyware *is* inevitable for a common surfer. It seems
    to hard to tell which downloads are safe, and which aren't. For kids and
    participants in social and P2P networks in particular. Hence a need for
    policing software.

    Charlie42
     
    Charlie42, Jan 20, 2008
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  19. Zygy

    SteveC619 Guest

    It may have the words, but it doesn't have the legal Microsoft symbol
    showing it is truly Vista compatable. I am a Beta tester for LavaSoft
    and ran precluders to AdAware 2007 and I am shocked by how buggy and
    unreliable it is. I am currently keeping AdAware SE despite LavaSoft's
    efforts to get you to change as they constantly badger you to do in
    their forums. I have also added other AntiSpyware programs to make sure
    all my coverages are current and my scans and removals accurate.
     
    SteveC619, Jan 21, 2008
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    robinb Guest

    i have run adaware 2007 on both xp and vista and it sucks
    Adaware SE was very stable, easy to use, very straight foward
    What i do not understand is if you have a product that works well and it is
    just not vista ready, just fix that part but do not change the entire
    program.

    robin
     
    robinb, Jan 21, 2008
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