Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Zygy, Jan 19, 2008.

  1. I don't know what the beta versions were like, but, as I said, I
    haven't had any problems with the RTM version. What problems have you

    Running more than one anti-spyware program is a very good thing to do.
    I also run several. None is good enough to rely on completely.
    Ken Blake, MVP, Jan 21, 2008
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  2. What part of "avoid it entirely" did you fail to understand?
    Then they better learn. And they don't need all this protection stuff
    you mention. No matter what, modern OS's kept updated happen to be
    pretty secure. It's highly up to oneself. The idea that one cannot be
    connected to the Internet without some kind of "protection" is a
    fallacy imposed by security companies.

    And they better teach their kids too. I assume they don't send their
    kids out in the traffic without proper guidance either. And BTW, kids
    should never have administrative privileges on computers.
    If keeping ones computer patched and thinking about what to
    run/install is too big a task, one should reconsider using a computer
    at all.
    That's no argument. Any sophisticated tool you use you have to
    understand how to use properly. I bought a car only to be able to get
    me from A to B. I'm just a user. That doesn't mean I don't have to
    learn how to get from A to B safely.
    The human factor is the main problem and therefore the human factor is
    where there is the most to gain security wise. Just installing
    "security" products in order to "fix" the human factor doesn't bring
    us anywhere in terms of security. A stupid user with a security suite
    is still a stupid user.
    Software is unable to determine if what you're doing is good or bad.
    That's just a fact.
    What nonsense... What "security" software company do you represent?
    if you allow kids to download and install programs on their own, we
    are no longer discussing security.
    if you install/run programs from questionable sources like P2P
    networks, we are no longer discussing security.
    Policing software is an illusion. There is no easy cure for stupidity.
    Straight Talk, Jan 22, 2008
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    Charlie42 Guest

    Possibly what you meant by "it". I was under the impression you were
    referring to anti spyware programs, perhaps you meant the spyware itself? I
    sometimes find it a bit hard to interpret your posts, you ought not to leave
    us guessing at the meaning of your short statements.

    Employing a firewall and taking a restrictive approach to downloads are of
    course the better ways to prevent any form of malware, but we were talking
    about the cases in which a user - presumably without realizing it - is in
    the process of downloading/running a bugger, or has already had his or hers
    machine infected.
    And still my OS manufacturer (Microsoft) recommends adding security
    software, in fact their OS starts screaming for it if it's missing or merely
    And the OS manufacturer, and the OEM's and so on? I'm thoroughly familiar
    with the fundamentals of online dos and don'ts, but would you care to
    elaborate on how the security developers managed to pull off this conspiracy
    without any of us realizing it, and why security software can do us
    absolutely no good? I find that to be a sensational, but puzzling, claim.
    Agreed. Standard user accounts only for them as well.
    Bin the computer entirely, just because it's hard to judge what's good or
    bad on the Net? The world simply doesn't work that way, Straight Talk.
    I assume you disabled ABS, anti spin, air bags, safety belts, head
    restraints and the other safety measures of your car. Following the logic
    from the software parallel, they're probably a waste of money too - all you
    have to do is to drive carefully, right? With no worries for how others on
    the roads might behave?

    Personally, I wouldn't take such risks when driving. I'm probably a wary
    bloke, I safe guard my computers as well.
    I fully concur.
    I don't consider the computer commoner to be stupid. Particularly not those
    who care enough about their data to operate software to help them protect
    Is it? One key element of hardwalls and scanners is to set predefined rules
    (human decisions on policies, malware signatures aso) that data traffic can
    be tested against at a later point. Whether the initial decisions are
    flawless or not, It has been my understanding that computers are
    particularly useful at carrying out large scale logical tests like this. And
    the output provides me with part of the basis for making informed decisions
    later on.
    My employer neither develops nor retails software.

    But I'll rephrase myself: *Encountering* ad and spyware is inevitable,
    getting an actual infection depends on what you do when challenged. Bells
    and whistles from a real time protection program will make most of us stop
    and think, utter silence may not.
    Media sharing is a major thing today, we both know that, and the security
    issues of it have to be addressed. Doing something as simple as enabling a
    firewall and scanning files when you download/before you run something,
    significantly reduce the risks, even though risk can never be completely
    ruled out, particularly not on these networks.

    Charlie42, Jan 22, 2008
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    Corrine Guest

    Hi, Ken. You will notice that the "Windows Vista Compatible" logo was
    removed from the Lavasoft web pages and blog. My guess is that they may have
    jumped the gun a tad bit. The Windows Vista AppReadiness website does show
    the Ad-Aware 2007 products as "Ready!". (Go to and select "L" for company name

    With regard to the Ask Toolbar, Lavasoft is "considering" it but as far as I
    know has not yet made a decision on whether it will be incorporated.
    Corrine, Feb 8, 2008

  5. Yes, thanks. I see it's gone now. Nevertheless, it works fine here
    without a problem.
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 8, 2008
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    shellp Guest

    Hi, I'm a Newbie to both PC's & Vista. So double shocked! Norton Internet
    Security 2008 has just been shown by Windows Defender to NOT be installed.
    Though it shows to be active. Is it the Defender or Norton whose right?
    Is there any way to tell?
    shellp, Feb 9, 2008
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    scott m. Guest

    scott m. wrote adaware2007 gave me nothing but problems with the vista home
    basic on an emachine pc.i had it installed for 6 months and it only caught
    one critical would shut down on its own.i uninstalled it and put
    "spybot search and destroy" on it with the resident shield and tea timer
    installed and it works great.
    i also have "spy sweeper" installed and between the two they catch most
    scott m., Feb 9, 2008
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    Charlie42 Guest

    Are you being told by the Security Center that no malware protection is

    Charlie42, Feb 10, 2008
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    Nick Guest

    I reccomend Pc tools Spyware doctor. I once tried Ad-aware, and after using
    the "write protect system files" option, my whole system crashed and I had to
    reload xp again.
    Nick, Feb 10, 2008
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    Robinb Guest

    I don't. I found it slows down the computer on startup to a crawl and I
    found this on a bunch of computers that it was on. I used to recommend it
    until this starting happening to so many of my clients. Now I recommend
    superantispyware pro or free
    Robinb, Feb 11, 2008
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    J13 Guest

    I'm having the same problem, the security center is telling me that no
    malware protection is present but my norton is active. I did notice that it
    also showed that my windows defender is turned off but when I try to turn it
    J13, Feb 27, 2008
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    Charlie42 Guest

    There is a general fix that can solve the problem with Vista reporting
    malware protection is missing, although it is present. All commands are
    typed in at the command prompt, you need to run as administrator:

    Method 1:

    winmgmt /verifyrepository
    If WMI repository is reported to be inconcistent, run the following command:
    winmgmt /salvagerepository

    Method 2:

    net stop winmgmt /y
    cd %windir%\system32\wbem
    ren repository repository.old
    Reboot the computer.

    As for the Windows Defender updates, they are available through Windows
    Update. You can also manually check for updates in Defender's Help menu >
    Look for updates. If neither works, you can download and install the latest
    definitions directly from Microsoft Malware Protection Center:

    Charlie42, Feb 27, 2008
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    cooperjames Guest

    where did you go to to get your free ad-aware

    cooperjames, Mar 4, 2008
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    cooperjames Guest

    where did you get ya free ad-aware from

    cooperjames, Mar 4, 2008
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    Charlie42 Guest

    Charlie42, Mar 4, 2008
  16. I have heard about Super Antispyware but have not use it yet, I have
    using an anti-spyware 'Adware Alert' this also can not run on Vista, but
    I think it is rogue anti-spyware because after purchasing their website also have not any information about this :mad:...
    santiagojames, Mar 4, 2008
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    Charlie42 Guest

    You are correct. Remove Adware Alert from your computer immediately, then
    run thorough anti malware checks. Rogue security software may carry malware.

    Take a look at the many posts on malware removal in this group, and follow
    their advice.

    In general, the experts recommend you run two or more anti spywares, since
    no single one has a sufficient detection rate. Remember, Windows Defender is
    such a programs and it is already installed on your system.

    Charlie42, Mar 4, 2008
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