Are you aware, Vista lifts PC sales by 67% in its first week

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Jonathan Schwartz 2, Feb 10, 2007.

  1. NOTE: The HP new Computer Sales are most interesting...

    Can't imagine what Vista Sales, via RTM as well as all new PCs will bring
    next week, next quarter, apparently much greater than was ever anticipated.

    (By Dina Bass )

    February 9, 2007

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/303036_vistasales09.html

    Microsoft Corp.'s new Windows Vista operating system spurred a 67 percent
    increase in personal computer sales at U.S. retail stores in its first week
    on the market, according to research firm Current Analysis Inc.

    Hewlett-Packard Co. was the top PC seller by units during the week that
    ended Saturday, with its share rising from about 33 percent to more than 50
    percent, according to the report by San Diego-based analyst Samir Bhavnani.
    Gateway Inc. was the No. 2 seller. Dell Inc., the world's second-largest PC
    maker, wasn't included because the company doesn't sell through stores.

    "It's one of the bigger sales weeks we have seen since 2003," Bhavnani said.
    The increase compares with sales in the same week a year earlier. Current
    Analysis declined to say how many PCs were sold in total in the week.

    Customers had waited through two years of delays for Vista, the first new
    Windows release for PCs since 2001. The first quarter typically is the
    slowest for PC sales. While Vista will provide a boost, it probably won't
    reverse that seasonal trend, Microsoft Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer
    said.

    Microsoft began selling Vista in stores on Jan. 30 after releasing it to
    some businesses on Nov. 30. About 5.5 million consumers will buy copies of
    Vista worldwide by the end of March, forecasts Roger Kay, an analyst at
    Wayland, Mass.-based research firm Endpoint Technologies Associates. That
    will rise to 29.2 million in the fourth quarter.

    "There are a few people that are buying it just because it's available," Kay
    said. "Vista is a mild stimulus for the market."

    Bhavnani said the increase in the first week "compares very favorably" with
    the first week Windows XP was on sale in 2001. XP went on sale six weeks
    after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, during a time of slower business and
    consumer spending. Also, XP was available on some PCs a few weeks before the
    official release.

    Seventy percent of the machines sold were loaded with Vista Home Premium, a
    higher-priced version that analysts expect will add hundreds of millions of
    dollars to Vista's sales this year.

    Kevin Kutz, Microsoft Windows client communications director, said the
    company is "pleased with the initial response to Windows Vista."
     
    Jonathan Schwartz 2, Feb 10, 2007
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  2. A lot of people were putting off their PC purchase until Vista was launched,
    as they didn't want XP and a month later have to buy a new OS.

    Several people I know have been putting off their purchase for ~6 months.

    --
    Dustin Harper

    http://www.vistarip.com

    --
     
    Dustin Harper, Feb 10, 2007
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  3. Jonathan Schwartz 2

    Chad Harris Guest

    I wonder what percent of people were so dumb that they paid $1000-4000 for
    these new boxes and didn't have the common sense to demand a Vista OS DVD
    for their purchases. MSFT and the OEM named partners are betting you're
    really stupid, and will blindly make a purchase without demanding access to
    Win RE--the major panopoly of recovery tools in Vista.

    Only Dell that I know of is shipping an OS DVD.

    If you didn't get the DVD by pushing for it, then you got screwed out of
    access to Win RE.

    I wouldn't run Vista without having it. Do you? Or did you get screwed
    after paying $1000-$4000 for that spiffy new HP. The recovery discs and
    partitions are a fool's crap.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Feb 10, 2007
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  4. Jonathan Schwartz 2

    Chad Harris Guest

    wonder what percent of people were so dumb that they paid $1000-4000 for
    these new boxes and didn't have the common sense to demand a Vista OS DVD
    for their purchases. MSFT and the OEM named partners are betting you're
    really stupid, and will blindly make a purchase without demanding access to
    Win RE--the major panopoly of recovery tools in Vista.

    Only Dell that I know of is shipping an OS DVD.

    If you didn't get the DVD by pushing for it, then you got screwed out of
    access to Win RE.

    I wouldn't run Vista without having it. Do you? Or did you get screwed
    after paying $1000-$4000 for that spiffy new HP. The recovery discs and
    partitions are a fool's crap.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Feb 10, 2007
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  5. What the hell is Win RE? Did you just make that up?

    ss.
     
    Synapse Syndrome, Feb 10, 2007
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  6. Hello Chad,

    The number of people that did not receive the OS DVD likely will remain
    unknown.

    Never have I owned a HP PC.

    My curiosity regarding HP was from pondering if their reported sales
    included Compact, and likely the answer is yes, but I don't know...

    Seriously, I'm beginning to think that perhaps the larger OEMs performed a
    typical *rush* Upgrade just as many Posters within theses Forums, and never
    realized the extent of their rush to judgment error.

    My machines, just simple built to specs with Genuine Microsoft Products.

    By the way, seriously, I enjoy your occansional news worthy rants, you have
    a very special insight, although, sometimes maybe over stoked just a bit,
    maybe.

    Keep those special well-documented responses coming our direction!

    PS: The guy wrote that he "ticked" both boxes, so, I assumed / guessed that
    indeed he checked to Repair... who knows but I valued your response.



    -- Windows Vista
    Become Part of The Legacy!



     
    Jonathan Schwartz 2, Feb 10, 2007
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  7. Jonathan Schwartz 2

    Dale White Guest

    Are people still dumb if they paid $650 and only got an upgrade voucher ?
    I'm at a loss, I've done a google search for Win RE, but I don't see what
    you are talking about..Care to expand ?


     
    Dale White, Feb 10, 2007
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  8. Jonathan Schwartz 2

    Chad Harris Guest

    Dale--


    I can expand a little. My point was without the OS DVD, you can't reach
    most of these tools. WinRE is new for Windows Vista and completely replaces
    the recovery console in Windows XP. You should be able to perform most tasks
    of recovery console from WinRE. Depending on the problems, many you are
    helping with, major problems in Vista, some of them concommitant (or
    multiple at a time) might require a more sweeping solution than many of the
    fixes and corrections and tweaks we all offer to help.

    XP had the Recovery Console, which could do many interesting things outside
    Windows, but that has been replaced largely with the Win PE environment and
    Win RE environment. However, many people don't realize that although Win RE
    is meant to fix Vista so you don't have to use the Recovery Console's
    commands (13 of which were original Dos commands), they are available from
    the command prompt using Win RE, and some Recovery Console Commands aren't.

    XP had F8 options, and Vista can use them as well. But the Win RE team came
    up with other ways to fix Vista, and one of them in the Win RE environment
    can also be used to fix major system problems even when they don't cause a
    no boot, stop error (BSOD) situation.


    Here are some links, and here are the solutions I often offer for no boot or
    serious "Vista is broken and won't run or runs poorly" problems:

    Introducing Win RE (Windows Recovery Environment)
    http://blogs.msdn.com/winre/archive/2006/09/18/760295.aspx


    The Vista Win RE Team Blog
    http://blogs.msdn.com/winre/default.aspx

    You can search this for more solutions than show up on the home page.

    You can run Startup Repair by putting your Vista DVD in after the
    language screen in setup. You can also run System Restore from the same
    location.

    Here are a number of MSKBs dealing with Win RE:

    You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
    also sometimes effective):


    A Stop error occurs, or the computer stops responding when you try to start
    Windows Vista
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us

    See the explanation of startup repair at the bottom of the MSKB above.

    How to use the Bootrec.exe tool in the Windows Recovery Environment to
    troubleshoot and repair startup issues in Windows Vista
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392/en-us

    How to troubleshoot scenarios in which the rollback phase was unsuccessful
    after you upgrade from Windows XP to Windows Vista
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927523/en-us

    After you install a device or update a driver for a device, Windows Vista
    may not start
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927525/en-us

    **How to Run Startup Repair (From Win RE Environment)

    How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
    http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

    Note The computer must be configured to start from a CD or from a DVD. For
    information about how to configure the computer to start from a CD or from a
    DVD, see the information that came with the computer.
    2. Restart the computer. To do this, click Start, click the arrow next to
    the Lock button, and then click Restart.

    This usually means that you enter bios setup by whatever key or keys
    (sometimes there is more than one key that will do it for your model--go to
    pc manufacturer site) and configure CD to be first in the boot order.

    See for ref:
    Access/Enter Motherboard BIOS
    http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm

    Note If you cannot restart the computer by using this method, use the power
    button to turn off the computer. Then, turn the computer back on.

    3. Set your language preference, and then click Next.

    Note In most cases, the startup repair process starts automatically, and you
    do not have the option to select it in the System Recovery Options menu.

    4. Click Repair your computer.

    5. In the System Recovery Options dialog box, click the operating system
    that you want to repair, and then click Next.

    6. In the System Recovery Options menu, click Startup Repair to start the
    repair process.

    7. When the repair process is complete, click Finish.

    Additional References for Startup Repair With Screenshots:

    How to Use Startup Repair:

    ***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

    1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

    2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
    lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

    Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
    http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui/images/2014/500x375.aspx

    Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
    http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img_vista02ctp-installSysRecOpt2.bmp

    How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
    http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

    3) Select your OS for repair.

    4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
    theWin RE feature:

    You'll have a choice there of using:

    1) Startup Repair
    2) System Restore
    3) Complete PC Restore

    CH



     
    Chad Harris, Feb 10, 2007
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  9. I think HP does not include a DVD. Only Restore DVDs, if that (I had
    to burn my own Restore DVDs with my last HP ( read *LAST* HP).

    I got a Toshiba P105 laptop that came with Vista Home Premium
    pre-installed and an 'upgrade' dvd that is a full Vista OEM install
    DVD in addition to the Restore DVDs.

    I thought that was pretty classy of Toshiba. The silky feeling cloth
    notebook cover and screen protector sheets were nice touches, too.

    I intend to repartiotion my HD to dual boot XP and Vista. I guess I'll
    find out then if the OEM Vista DVD works and Vista can be activated.
     
    algernon bonzo, Feb 11, 2007
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  10. Jonathan Schwartz 2

    joe Guest


    I placed an order for a laptop from the HP website that included the
    "system recovery DVD w/Windows Vista Home basic". I did demand access
    to the WinRE tools and was told by their customer service that these
    tools would be available with the recovery DVD. Were they lying to me?
     
    joe, Feb 11, 2007
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  11. Jonathan Schwartz 2

    joe Guest


    I placed an order for a laptop from the HP website that included
    the "system recovery DVD w/Windows Vista Home basic".I did demand
    access to the WinRE tools and was told by their customer service
    that these tools would be available with the recovery DVD. Were
    they lying to me?
     
    joe, Feb 11, 2007
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