ARTCLE= If You Think SP1 Fixed Windows Vista, Think Again

I have been vindicated once more!


http://keznews.com/4189_If_You_Think_SP1_Fixed_Windows_Vista,_Think_Again

If you think that the first service pack for Windows Vista has managed to
fix what was broken with the latest Windows client, think again.

The same problems that were initially associated with the gold version of
Vista have survived and moved on as the legacy of SP1. At the end of its
first year of availability on the market, Vista had passed the 100 million
sold license milestone, and according to Steve Ballmer, Microsoft Chief
Executive Officer, present at MIX08 the past week, the platform is the
second most popular Windows operating system in the world, despite its long
line of problems.

"I'm not saying that there aren't things that customers choose to comment
on. Come on, the number one issue we've had customers have issues on were
application compatibility and driver compatibility. We made a very concrete
set of choices in order to enhance the security, Vista is a very secure
system. We've had very little issue of that kind. It's the most secure
client operating system out there. But we did have it we did make the choice
to kind of hurt compatibility and our customers have let us know that that
has been very painful," Ballmer stated.

Still, the promise was that with Windows Vista SP1, Microsoft would soften
all the rough edges of the operating system. But just like the gold version
of Vista, the RTM build of Vista SP1 experienced integration issues with
existent hardware drivers, a detail that led to the postponing of SP1's
general availability until mid-March.

"A couple of things have happened, a lot of the apps have now been upgraded
to be compatible, and the drivers have been upgraded. We've shipped our
first service pack, Service Pack 1, which allows us to factor in a lot of
the quality and other suggestions that people have made, and I think we're
starting to see more uptake now in the business market, and Vista continues
to sell quite strongly in the consumer market," Ballmer added.

But not only is Vista SP1 not resolving the driver incompatibility issues of
Vista, but it is introducing new ones. Microsoft warned on March 12, that in
certain scenarios, following the deployment of Vista SP1, end users might
experience sound problems.

The company enumerated the issues starting with the fact that: "no sound is
produced when you play audio files or run programs that have an audio
component. The speaker symbol next to the clock in the notification area may
display the following message: 'No Audio Output Device is installed.' The
Sound Controller in Device Manager displays a yellow exclamation point."

The glitch is entirely the fault of Vista SP1. What the service pack does is
to update system files upon installation and inbox device drivers are
refreshed in an effort to evolve device reliability. This is done via the
redeployment of device drivers at the very end of Vista SP1's installation.
But this specific step could fail and result in no new drivers being
installed.

Microsoft advices end users to first restart the Windows Vista SP1 machine,
then unplug and plug back in the speakers, as well as verifying the default
output device. If these steps fail, then users should check to see if the
audio device driver exists, and either perform an installation or an update.

 

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Vindicated from what?
The fact that you're an idiot who also just happens to be a moron?
I don't think so.
Try reading the article bozo.
Now tells us exactly which driver incompatibility your one little
install of Vista suffers from, ok?
NO LYING ALLOWED...LOL!!!
Frank

 

This is a forum where people come to ask questions about problems the
are having so that they can be resolved. The absolute last thing we nee
here is people that do nothing but confuse the issue

Don't you have anything better to do other than echoing second-han
information? Where is the original Microsoft-posted article that say
sound will stop working after installing Vista SP1

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dzomlij

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NO LYING ALLOWED...LOL!!!

then you wont have anything to say anymore franky poo... lol

Ahh frank is back to insult mode...
How quaint....

 

Why its right here!

After you install Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1), you may experience one
or more of the following problems with sound:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948481

Mike

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So you can't answer the question huh?
You're pathetic! You know nothing. You're an attention starved bandwidth
sucking weakling.
Grow up!
Enough!
We're all sick of your diatribe bullsh*t!
Got it?
Frank

 

See, that wasn't so hard, was it? Backing up a claim with facts from a
legitimate, reputable source.

But quoting directly from the KB Article:

fault of SP1, but of the user who has neglected to keep his/her drivers
up-to-date in the first place?


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dzomlija

_____________________
Peter Alexander Dzomlija
-Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
you die, so shall I be Reborn...-

:cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/110939-show-us-your-rig-12.html#post533290)
went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee312/Dzomlija/Venus/)

 

Nah.. wrong again. This is not a forum. Its a newsgroup.
If you are getting these messages via a forum or the microsoft web interface
that is only
a secondary way to view the real contents of this newsgroup. The normal way
is through a newsreader.
And anyone is free to come and express their opinion about vista.
This is good. People who come here get to see all aspects of vista, and not
only the sugar coated hype.

I dont see why you wont want the truth to come out. I think that knowing the
truth is more important for users
than to solve a single problem they may have. But I do help them with those
very often too.

If you dont like this way that newgroups function, I suggest you join or
create your own moderated forum.


Have a good day.

 

Frank you may want to lure me into one of your ongoing fights.. and insult
throwing sprees...
It wont work with me...
If you dont want to read my posts please just block me, because you know I
wont stop & ill just ignore you.. lol

Actually no. I just post news that may interest people who like getting a
global view of vista. I can depend on you
showing the good parts of vista... keep telling them those. And I will show
the other side whenever I stuble upon an article.

I see no problem with that. There are 2 sides of the coin always...

there is a fundemental law in nature called duality.

On the other hand I will keep giving my support and help to people with
vista problems, as I did for many years with XP.

I may post critical news about vista, but I also give a helping hand to
people in need, because those are who I care about.

When was the last time you helped someone in here Franky poo?

I suggest you clean up your act, wash your mouth with soap, sober up, take
your meds,
and help some people instead of insulting everyone you dislike.

Now THAT is totally wasted time ....

 

Actually, I am a moderator on www.vistax64.com

And it's not that I don't want the truth to come out - it's that I want
all claims of any kind to be backed up with facts sourced from reputable
sources. I never even heard of KezNews until your post linked to an
article of theirs, so they in my book are not a reliable source. Another
poster (MikeP) had the right idea here by providing a link to the
Microsoft KB article that mentions the possible issue with sound after
SP1 is installed. That is a reliable source then.

We live in a skeptical world, and nothing should be taken on faith
anymore. Nothing.


--
dzomlija

_____________________
Peter Alexander Dzomlija
-Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
you die, so shall I be Reborn...-

:cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/110939-show-us-your-rig-12.html#post533290)
went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee312/Dzomlija/Venus/)

 

Hey.... as you may have understood, Im not that serious into bashing
vista... most of the times I include jokes in my posts.

I realy have no ill intent.. but what is alarming that people react
violently when I just post stuff they dont want to see or believe... lol

Remember, losen up, we are not in a court of law trying to determin if vista
is guilty or not...

its a newsgroup... with many different people expressing many different
sides of the same thing.

I have no problem with normal posters... not even frank although he curses
all the time.

The only people I dislike is spanky-kevpan who post irrelative stuff about
politics in here and alexb who is a racists.

Such stuff dont belong in here.

But positive AND negative news about Vista do belong in here. Both are good
for the viewer of this newsgroup ...

its better to know more about an OS than live in the dark. Vista means VIEW,
dont try to blind people.

 

correction "post irrelevant stuff "

 

Sorry pal, but no can do. Blocking is for losers. I will always rile
against liars and trolls and hate mongers. You bridge that gap. You tell
half truths which in effect, are whole lies. And you've been conducting
a Vista hate campaign from the start.

Yeah, the truth and the lie.

Cut the crap ok? You're not all that bright or well educated and we all
know that.

Yeah, google is your friend.

You only care about seeing your name in print.

Google is your friend!

I'd suggest you either stop your lying and your Vista hate campaign or
else get lost.
Frank

 

I'm afraid that you're the one who is really afraid of the truth.

I think that knowing the

Google is your friend.

Oh! Can't take the criticism, cc...LOL!
Frank

 

you understand that vistax64 is pulling these newsgroup posts from the
newsgroup, right?

the real source is the newsgroup that permits freedom of expression. You may
have moderation rights on the forum
but not here. And this is a good thing. I would never like to be muted, as
long as what I post is relevant to the newsgroup I am posting on.

Backing up EVERYTHING is a tedious chore, and I don't have or even want to
do it. Whoever likes reading some informative news ok.. they are free to
research the matter further by their own, in their own time.

I am not on some mission to degrade Microsoft... lol
Had I wanted I could have made videos showing some very disturbing aspects
of vista and put them on youtube so millions would see.. but why? I have
nothing to gain ... I only post out of interest in all aspects of an OS... I
use vista and even advise people to get vista with new computers...

Ok I may understand that its hard to categorize me. why?
I post negative news about vista, but on the other hand I help vista users,
I call it the crap OS, but I also use it and advise people to get it with
new computers...

I don't blame you for not being able to add a label on me. Its perhaps that
some people are too complex for a simple label?

I hope I am one of those complex people.

I hate labels... hey I even have defended vista...
so chill out...

this is just a newsgroup.

 

I can just imaging a frank moderated forum.. lol

can you imagine what that would be?

Anyone who posts vista-pro stuff will be left intact.. all the others would
be crammed up with insults or banned...

LOL FRANK, you are a riot...

 

Sorry pal, but no can do. Blocking is for losers

at last we agree on something.

I say something that one of your presidential candidates
is saying... "We can disagree without being disagreeable."

are you capable of that? I am.

 

Have to say in the month I've been here (and the 6 months, ages ago, when I
first got Vista), I haven't seen a single post from you offering help.
Perhaps I missed them. Very possible given the traffic here. What I have
seen is troll baiting, new threads started pointing to nonsense
youtube/Wikipedia articles and comments about incest and bestiality.
Maybe you used to help but have now tailed off and are fighting some form of
crusade against people. If you aren't careful you will be seen as one of
those people that you spend hours per day replying to.

 

Frank doesn't have the technical know-how to help.. but he has been in here
since this newsgroup was started...

Some of my technical wizardry should have rubbed off to him, if only he paid
attention to what I say instead of rushing to the end of each post to snip
and add his insults..

LOL... frank is amazing

 

I know where the posts of vistax64 come from. I just find that workin
through the moderated web interface is far simpler than what any new
reader can give me. It's far more productive too, because I'll have on
less program running that is vying for my attention. Using the we
interface, I stay in Internet Explorer 7, where about 75% of my work i
done

Yeah, I know that, but posting either positive or negative comment
with links to a reputable source (like Microsoft) strengthens you
claims, and minimizes the chance of being labeled a troll. It give yo
credence and better serves to help those who read your posts

Vista is not perfect. No OS in the world can make that claim. Bu
disturbing? I find that hard to believe

I never tried to label you. But calling Vista a crappy OS is hardl
helping people..

Each unto his own, right

Oi! that's all I've been doing since last week Tuesday (4 March 2008)!

Mother nature decided that it was time to retire my computer with
bang, and I'm running on a Windows XP machine with only 512MB of memor
while I'm waiting for the insurance pay out

I'm going out of my mind here

--
dzomlij

____________________
Peter Alexander Dzomlij
-Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And a
you die, so shall I be Reborn...

:cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen i
http://www.vistax64.com/general-discussion/110939-show-us-your-rig-12.html#post533290
went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the main
supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for th
insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-
' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee312/Dzomlija/Venus/)