machine account

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Jesse, Sep 18, 2007.

  1. Jesse

    Jesse Guest

    I am still miserable and having fits trying to get around or get rid of this machine user account. I can't access many of my programs like system
    restore. I am denied access to many of my programs because it says that it is
    the administrator, and I don't have permission. I can't make myself the
    admin; and it won't delete or uninstall. Is ther anything that someone can
    tell me in laymans terms, how I can get rid of I hate it and it is
    driving me crazy. I didn't have these issues before I upgraded to vista home
    premium. Somebody please help me. I have tried to change permissions. Change
    user accounts. Cannot uninstall some programs because I get a message saying
    someone else is using it. Don't know what to do.
    Jesse, Sep 18, 2007
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  2. Jesse

    Spirit Guest

    Try this then elevate your User to Admin also.

    Turning on the Administrator account is straightforward.
    First, open an elevated command prompt by typing
    cmd into the Search box on the Start menu, right-clicking
    the command prompt icon that appears at the top of the
    Start menu, then selecting Run as administrator .
    Then enter this command and press Enter:

    Net user administrator /active:yes

    From now on, the Administrator account will appear as an
    option on the Welcome screen, along with any user accounts
    you may have set up. Use it like any other account. Be aware
    that it won't have a password yet, so it's a good idea to set a
    password for it.

    If you want to disable the account and hide it, enter this
    command at an elevated command prompt and press Enter:
    Net user administrator /active:no
    Spirit, Sep 18, 2007
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  3. Jesse

    Jesse Guest

    Thanks for trying to help. I printed your instructions, and tried them. I
    typed in what you told me to, then closed window. Restarted computer several
    times, but all that came up was the account with my name on it, and the guest
    account. Since the account with my name on it shows all of my files and
    folders I used it. I try to change it to make it my admin; account [from
    standard user] but it won't change. That account is password
    protected, and when I try to remove it, it says that windows cannot change
    the password. I have had it with vista stuff. I don't know what to do. No
    matter what I do, that go away. Every time I start my computer, a
    window says that task scheduler is not running. I can't use system restore.
    Most of my important programs won't run, or give me access. I tried to delete
    the guest account that comes up when I turn my computer on, but when I click
    Jesse, Sep 19, 2007
  4. Jesse

    Spirit Guest

    You do not restart the computer! Do the 1st part and your Admin should

    Spirit, Sep 19, 2007
  5. Jesse

    Jesper Guest

    Jesse, can you explain what exactly you are trying to achieve? It is very
    unclear. In your frustration, you seem to be mixing issues together. It seems
    the account is offending you for some reason. However, there
    shouldn't be such an account on Vista, or any other OS for that matter.
    Windows XP had an ASPNET account, and if you upgraded an XP system you would
    still have that account on the system.

    Can you explain in a little more detail, with repro steps, what you are
    doing? If you really do have an account called you have a problem
    with that system.

    Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:

    Jesper, Sep 19, 2007
  6. Jesse

    GTS Guest


    The link below discusses a case exactly like yours and provides a
    solution - see last post in the page.

    To clarify a couple of points for you- Firstly, the account is
    related to the.Net framework, is not abnormal, and is NOT a problem in
    itself. (I have one on my Vista machine and have seen it on many others.)
    It should not be deleted. However, it does complicate your real problem
    which is that you do not have access to an Administrator account.

    In Vista, the built in admin account is disabled by default. If there is
    no other administrative account on the machine the built in admin account
    will be enabled by booting into safe mode. However, if there is any other
    admin account, and in your case the one qualifies, the built in will
    not automatically be enabled in safe mode. This means that if the admin
    account had never been enabled, you can't get access to it AND if your
    current user account is a limited one, you do not have the rights needed to
    fix the problem. Spirits solution will not work because you cannot enable
    the admin account from a limited user account.

    This is an unfortunate design flaw. Microsoft's decision to enable the
    admin account in safe mode in the absence of any other admin accounts is a
    smart move intended to prevent a complete lockout of admin rights. The
    problem that is created by the presence of the account is
    essentially a bug or unforeseen problem (i.e. the admin account should be
    enabled in safe mode if no admin account other than is present).

    This link explains how to use the PE environment from a Vista DVD boot (I
    hope you have one) to make a registry change to enable the built in admin
    account. Unfortunately, the original poster did not confirm how it worked
    out, but I suspect it's a sound solution. It's somewhat complicated, and
    if you're not comfortable with it you may wish to get some professional
    help. Once that is done you can change your user account to administrative
    from the admin login if you wish.

    Good luck and please let us know how it works out for you.

    GTS, Sep 19, 2007
  7. Jesse

    Jesse Guest

    I do have It is in my user accounts, and has screwed up a lot of my
    programs. It has the administrator account, and no matter what I do, it won't
    go away or let me change it. It say it is password protected, and I can't
    change or remove the password. I guess it is trash time for the comuter. I am
    wondering if I can use the same vista program I have on another computer.
    Thanks anyway.

    Jesse, Sep 19, 2007
  8. Jesse

    Jesse Guest

    Thanks for your advice. I read the post on the link you gave me. It sounds
    exactly like what I am going through. Unfortunately I don't have a vista boot
    disk. All I have is the disk I used to install vista.
    Jesse, Sep 20, 2007
  9. Jesse

    GTS Guest

    You're welcome. If you have a standard Vista installation DVD that is the
    boot disk.
    GTS, Sep 20, 2007
  10. Jesse

    Jesse Guest

    Thanks again for trying to help. I am just lost. I tried to boot with my
    original vista install dvd, but with no luck. All I get is a window saying
    that I need to be the administrator to run the installation. I know it is
    some more of that stupid mess.
    Jesse, Sep 21, 2007
  11. Jesse

    GTS Guest

    You're welcome.
    Both the problem and the repair process are complicated, and it seems you're
    still confused about and the instructions for using the Vista boot
    repair options and instead were trying to run a reinstallation. I suggest
    you look for qualified professional help.
    GTS, Sep 21, 2007
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