automatic scan

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by janis75, May 10, 2008.

  1. janis75

    janis75 Guest

    this may seem like a weird question / situation whatever but I have both my
    windows defender and my anti-virus program set to automatically scan my
    computer at 2 am on a daily basis. I usually put my computer into hibernation
    when I am done working on it and for some reason it doesn't seem like either
    one of these programs is doing what it should be doing. If I actually do a
    complete shutdown on my computer then after I restart it it tells me that my
    computer hasn't been scanned in x amount of days. I thought I had everything
    set up correctly but I guess I may be missing something. Does anybody have
    any suggestions? I have never had an issue like this. Every other computer I
    have had things worked and scanned just fine like they were set up to do.
    Please help
     
    janis75, May 10, 2008
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  2. Were your other computers running Windows XP
     
    fuzor_silverbolt, May 10, 2008
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  3. Having both scans occur at the same time, if that is really what you've
    configured, could easily cause one or both to fail because of
    conflicting file access.


    *What* tells you it hasn't been scanned. Defender or your anonymous
    antivirus application? We can't even begin to help if you won't tell us
    which one isn't working.

    I can find nothing in either Vista's Power Management settings, or in
    Defender's settings, that would allow the computer to be awoken from
    hibernation. Can't speak to the antivirus applications abilities, as
    you've opted to keep that a secret.

    Remember, hibernation is the same as turning the computer's power
    completely off. The only difference is that the state of the computer
    (open applications and files, etc.) when it enters hibernation is
    automatically resumed when the PC is powered back on. With this in
    mind, I don't think you've ever been able to do precisely what you
    describe; you've most likely been putting the computers in Standby or
    Sleep mode - not Hibernate.



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    Bruce Chambers, May 10, 2008
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  4. janis75

    t-4-2 Guest

    Hello janis
    Maybe * I * am the one missing something. I always thought th
    computer had to be ON before scanning could be executed. Am I wrong
     
    t-4-2, May 11, 2008
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  5. janis75

    janis75 Guest

    Yes they were running XP.......I am new to Vista so I don't know if there is
    a difference with this or not. that is why I was asking
     
    janis75, May 11, 2008
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  6. janis75

    janis75 Guest

    defender will tell me that I haven't scanned my computer in days even though
    I could have just got doing a manual scan on it.

    that is where I am having issues.
     
    janis75, May 11, 2008
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  7. janis75

    janis75 Guest

    okay obviously *I* came across as a complete moron so *I* guess *I* didn't
    state the isue the right way.

    I understand that normally a computer would have to be on in order for it to
    do certain things however, I am new to Vista so I didn't know if it could do
    anyting special like that.

    just a question is all.......as I said I was just looking for direction
    because Vista is new to me.
     
    janis75, May 11, 2008
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  8. janis75

    Rojo Habe Guest

    Try using Sleep instead of Hibernate. This keeps the RAM and processor
    going in a low power state but shuts down pretty much everything else,
    including the hard drives, fans and all lights on the machine so that it
    looks like it's off. It does everything that Hibernate does (dumps the
    contents of memory to the hard drive) so it's safe in case there's a power
    cut, but it resumes A LOT faster, and is able to wake up to perform
    scheduled tasks.

    I've got a bit of a problem with Defender at the moment, so it's still not
    running a scan, but I do know Windows Update is running every morning at 3AM
    without problems.
     
    Rojo Habe, May 11, 2008
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  9. janis75

    Engel Guest

    Hello Janis,

    Am I correct in thinking that you are running Ccleaner or another registry
    cleaner?

    If so, in CCleaner/applications/Utilities dont mark Windows Defender.

    Than the history of WD keeps alive.
    - -- ---
     
    Engel, May 11, 2008
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  10. janis75

    t-4-2 Guest

    Hello janis,
    Please, don't take it as being offending. I DID NOT mean it that way.I
    truly was confused about the issue. I always thought I had to leave the
    computer on if I want to do scanning in the wee hour of the night.
    That's all. If I had hurt your feeling, I apologize, sincerely.
     
    t-4-2, May 11, 2008
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  11. janis75

    janis75 Guest

    Thanks for the insight I really appreciate it. I will try using the sleep
    mode from now on.
     
    janis75, May 11, 2008
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  12. janis75

    C.B. Guest

    No.

    C.B.
     
    C.B., May 12, 2008
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  13. janis75

    janis75 Guest

    Hello t-4-2

    I apologize then as well. I guess I shouldn't have been so quick to jump the
    gun and assume that you were trying to be offending in any way.

    I have been told to put the computer in sleep mode to make sure that the
    scanning will take place. However I am afraid that it will overheat itself. I
    may just try to do my scanning when I fire up my computer at least that way I
    won't have to worry about all this stuff. Thanks for the help though and
    again I am sorry for the mis-communication earlier.
     
    janis75, May 12, 2008
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  14. janis75

    t-4-2 Guest

    Hello janis
    I'm GLAD that we have cleared the cloud of misunderstanding
    Back to the question you asked in your original post. You Have to leav
    the computer on if you want it to do scanning . Sleep mode won't do
    Please see the screenshot of the question I asked and the answer fro
    Brink, one of our moderators. Screenshot link below :

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    (http://imagegrotto.com/view-scan11067.JPG
     
    t-4-2, May 12, 2008
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  15. janis75

    janis75 Guest

    Hello again t-4-2,

    I appreciate the insight again. As I said I may just make it a point to go
    ahead and run my own scans everyday for these things. At least then I know it
    will get done without any hesitation. In a worse case scenerio I wait a week
    to do a scan, I definately wouldn't wait that long but just figuring worse
    case scenerio.

    Are you running Vista? What are some quirks that I may experience? I have
    always used XP so I am not sure what to expect with Vista. So far I guess it
    has been decent but I don't really do anything all that involved on my
    computer anyway.......just schoolwork.

    Any pointers or warnings or whatever you can offer would be much appreciated.

    Thanks
    Janis
     
    janis75, May 12, 2008
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  16. This may depend on exactly what is meant by "on"
    or "off". Electronic gadgets are seldom really off.

    Check Vista's help FAQ entry for "When should I
    shut down my computer?"

    In help, use search term "turn off" and the first thing
    should be the FAQ. It's about halfway down.
     
    FromTheRafters, May 12, 2008
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  17. janis75

    t-4-2 Guest

    Hello janis,
    When it comes to scheduled scanning, you have the control. By that I
    mean if you do not want to leave your computer ON at 2 a.m. in order to
    do scanning, then why won't you schedule the scanning at a time you are
    Always home? Of course you'll have to "train" yourself to turn on the
    computer prior to the scheduled time. You might miss a day or 2, big
    deal!
    As to vista, I'm the opposite. I never have an XP. From what I
    understand, with XP you are pretty much your own boss. In vista, you'll
    be dealing with UAC ( user account controls) a lot of time. It will ask
    you to confirm the action you want, and sometimes you'll even get
    "Access Denied " message, and if you are on user account, certain
    actions you take will require administrator's password in order to
    proceed. Some people are quite upset about such hinderance, particularly
    when they had a free hand with XP. UAC is supposed to keep you from
    doing something "stipud" by asking you to "think about it one more time,
    before you are sorry." People will tell you to set up an administrator
    account but use it only on "administrative duties", and set up an user
    account to do you daily chore. Lastly, time and time again, there were
    people asking for help because they forgot their administrator's
    password and they couldn't login for "administrative duties", or worst
    that was their only account and therefore they had no access to their
    own computers. You will definitely have people advising you NOT to use
    your date-of-birth, your name etc as password. My question is if this is
    your computer for home use, what's the big deal?? You are not working
    for CIA, FBI or NSA, are you? You are not an accountant of some
    organised crime family, are you?? Let's not be melodramatic. I'm a rebel
    in heart. I always want to "buck" the norm. Any questions in the future,
    I'm here to give my best.
     
    t-4-2, May 12, 2008
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  18. janis75

    janis75 Guest

    T-4-2,

    By the way......what is your real name or should I just keep addressing you
    as t-4-2? I have been talking to you but feel weird using that title. If it
    is okay with you then I guess I will keep doing it that way however, I just
    thought I would ask.

    Okay.....not to computer savvy so please tell me how to set that up. From
    the way I'm understanding it and correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing
    that the purpose of setting up this administrative account thing is so that I
    can specifically do things like scanning? Is that right? does it help to have
    two different accounts?

    I really don't do anything special as far as the CIA, FBI and NSA are
    concerened so I am good there. As far as being an accountant for the "family"
    alas they felt I was to "pushy", so I am out! Just kidding to anyone who
    reads that statement!!! But seriously as I said I am simply using my computer
    to take online college courses, so I am not involved in anything to involved.

    Thank you for the extension of the offer to help......I may just take you up
    on that! I guess after reading this post do you think it is wise for me to
    set up another account as an administrator? If yes, I will looking for
    direction.

    Thanks!
    Kindly,
    Janis
     
    janis75, May 13, 2008
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  19. Here's another excerpted from the help system for the
    management console.

    ***
    You can also set a condition that tells the task to wake the computer from
    sleep mode to run the task when the trigger is activated. Before you set the
    condition to wake the computer to run the task, ensure that the task will
    not cause the computer to wake at inconvenient times.

    ***
     
    FromTheRafters, May 13, 2008
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  20. janis75

    janis75 Guest

    how do I do that?

     
    janis75, May 13, 2008
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