AVG8 loads avgrsstx.dll inside of each loaded process!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by mikk, Jul 27, 2008.

  1. mikk

    mikk Guest

    AVG8 loads avgrsstx.dll inside of each loaded process i.e. in every process
    there's a pointer of 4K to avgrsstx.dll (It uses 4K x number of processes).
    Why this horrible design in AVG8?

    NB. Use SysInternals Process Explorer to see these DLLs injected on all
    processes!
     
    mikk, Jul 27, 2008
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    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience -
    Windows Vista Enthusiast

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    :

    AVG8 loads avgrsstx.dll inside of each loaded process i.e. in every process
    there's a pointer of 4K to avgrsstx.dll (It uses 4K x number of processes).
    Why this horrible design in AVG8?

    NB. Use SysInternals Process Explorer to see these DLLs injected on all
    processes!
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Jul 27, 2008
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  3. mikk

    Malke Guest

    Lord, Carey you'd think you worked for the company what with these
    commercials you keep posting. While OneCare may be better than it was (it
    can hardly be worse), it is still not particularly good. In addition it is
    rather invasive, you can't install some other antimalware programs, and you
    must have a Windows Live account to use it.

    Not recommended for all those reasons.

    Malke
     
    Malke, Jul 27, 2008
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  4. mikk

    Malke Guest

    Uninstall it if you don't like it. I haven't recommended it for years. Or
    post on their user forums.

    AVG Free Support Forum - http://freeforum.avg.com/

    My own preferences are for NOD32, Kaspersky, or even Avast if you must have
    a free one.

    I do *not* recommend Windows Live OneCare.

    Malke
     
    Malke, Jul 27, 2008
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  5. mikk

    mikk Guest

    I'm happy with AVG8, although it has some design flaws
    I don't like the security suites! Too bloated, too intrusive, too useless!
    I would like a Free Microsoft antivirus
    I just use the Windows Firewall
    I just have the Windows Defender
    I just have the built-in Vista automatic defrag
     
    mikk, Jul 27, 2008
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  6. Inquiring minds would like to know some specifics:

    Specifically, why do you say "it is still not particularly good"?

    Specifically, why to you say "it is rather invasive"?

    Specifically, have you even used/tested the new OneCare v2.5?



    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience -
    Windows Vista Enthusiast

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    Lord, Carey you'd think you worked for the company what with these
    commercials you keep posting. While OneCare may be better than it was (it
    can hardly be worse), it is still not particularly good. In addition it is
    rather invasive, you can't install some other antimalware programs, and you
    must have a Windows Live account to use it.

    Not recommended for all those reasons.

    Malke
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Jul 27, 2008
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  7. Well, I don't think any AVG developers who designed AVG
    visit the Windows Vista newsgroups. Did you try to contact
    AVG support? Likely not since there is no support for the free
    copy of AVG! Shame!

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience -
    Windows Vista Enthusiast

    ---------------------------------------------------------------



    I'm happy with AVG8, although it has some design flaws
    I don't like the security suites! Too bloated, too intrusive, too useless!
    I would like a Free Microsoft antivirus
    I just use the Windows Firewall
    I just have the Windows Defender
    I just have the built-in Vista automatic defrag
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Jul 27, 2008
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  8. mikk

    Nonny Guest

    I do believe that you are in over your head (again). She actually
    works on computers, while all you do is copy-and-paste replies to
    posts here and in the XP groups.
     
    Nonny, Jul 27, 2008
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  9. Not at all! I would just like some clarification of
    some statements made which were general in nature.

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience -
    Windows Vista Enthusiast

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    I do believe that you are in over your head (again). She actually
    works on computers, while all you do is copy-and-paste replies to
    posts here and in the XP groups.
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Jul 27, 2008
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  10. mikk

    Nonny Guest

    If she comes back with convincing material, will you stop being a
    spammer/shill for OneCare???
     
    Nonny, Jul 27, 2008
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  11. Sure. I'll even uninstall it from all three of my malware-free computers.
    BTW, I'm not a "shill". I only make recommendations based upon my
    own personal use and experience with a product.

    Also, since I installed OneCare on several friend's PCs who used to
    attract malware like a magnet, I've not had a single request to
    "come fix my computer" in the past year and a half.

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience -
    Windows Vista Enthusiast

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    If she comes back with convincing material, will you stop being a
    spammer/shill for OneCare???
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Jul 27, 2008
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  12. mikk

    Nonny Guest

    I have never had OneCare on my computer, and I have yet to get a virus
    or have my computer infested with malware. And I haven't had to pay
    $50/yr to stay that way.
     
    Nonny, Jul 27, 2008
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  13. Well Barney, you are a user that apparently is quite
    knowledgeable of computing and will take measures
    to secure your PC. But what about those users who
    are not so computer literate and haven't a clue
    about securing and maintaining their PC? I have
    several friends who use computer programs better
    than I, but cannot grasp the importance of PC security
    and safe internet surfing habits. For those folks,
    a comprehensive OneCare installation fits the bill!

    Cost of OneCare? If you shop around like I do, you
    can purchase OneCare from third-party sources such
    as amazon.com and get it for $19.99. That's $19.99
    for three (3) computers or $6.67 per computer per year!

    So for $6.67, I do not have to worry about my friend's
    computers not having proper Microsoft Updates, not
    having a good antivirus, antispyware or firewall, and not
    having a disk cleanup or defrag performed on a regular basis.

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience -
    Windows Vista Enthusiast

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    :

    I have never had OneCare on my computer, and I have yet to get a virus
    or have my computer infested with malware. And I haven't had to pay
    $50/yr to stay that way.
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Jul 27, 2008
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  14. mikk

    Mick Murphy Guest

    SPAM
    --
     
    Mick Murphy, Jul 27, 2008
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  15. mikk

    Mick Murphy Guest

    If you are unhappy with AVG, try Avast.
    Don't touch Live One Care; it is bloated GARBAGE.

    http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

    Avast Anti-Virus is Vista compatible (32bit and 64bit Versions), FREE,
    auto-updating, and a low resources user of your computer.
    And, only have 1(one) Anti-Virus installed / running on your computer at any
    one time..
    Conflicts may occur if you have more than 1(one).
     
    Mick Murphy, Jul 27, 2008
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  16. mikk

    Nonny Guest

    The FIRST year... RIGHT? What about at the end of that year?

    Kinda like signing up with the cable company for VOIP phone service
    for $9.99/mo with unlimited long distance, but at the end of six
    months, watch out for the REAL price.

    Still, I don't have three computers, only two. Most folks have only
    one.

    And virtually ALL of the services available in OneCare are either
    already available to me in Vista, or I have third-party software
    installed that perform the same tasks as well or better.

    Don't need it. Don't want it.
     
    Nonny, Jul 27, 2008
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  17. mikk

    Malke Guest

    Yes, I've seen what it does (and doesn't do) on clients' machines. I won't
    install it.

    Malke
     
    Malke, Jul 27, 2008
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  18. Same price if available. You don't have to purchase or renew
    a OneCare subscription directly from Microsoft. At the end
    of the subscription, simply shop around for the best price for
    a new OneCare license.

    In other words, there is no subscription contract with Microsoft
    and certainly no obligation to renew.

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience -
    Windows Vista Enthusiast

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    :

    The FIRST year... RIGHT? What about at the end of that year?

    Kinda like signing up with the cable company for VOIP phone service
    for $9.99/mo with unlimited long distance, but at the end of six
    months, watch out for the REAL price.

    Still, I don't have three computers, only two. Most folks have only
    one.

    And virtually ALL of the services available in OneCare are either
    already available to me in Vista, or I have third-party software
    installed that perform the same tasks as well or better.

    Don't need it. Don't want it.
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Jul 27, 2008
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  19. Well, your respond certainly tells us a lot! I guess you're not able to
    effectively communicate exactly what OneCare "does (and doesn't do)".

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience -
    Windows Vista Enthusiast

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    :
    Yes, I've seen what it does (and doesn't do) on clients' machines. I won't
    install it.

    Malke
     
    Carey Frisch [MVP], Jul 28, 2008
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  20. mikk

    Milo Guest

    Well in my stand point AVAST has a lot of False Positive as we call it in
    the Anti-malware/virus business.

    For the AVG user whose having such concern, first download a new installer
    go offline just to be sure, remove ( completer removal registry hive and
    binary folders ) of your currrently installed AVG8 and then reinstall it
    please.

    And for the onecare yes I've used it ( Look for me in Onecare Forums ), I
    would say its fine, other recommendations would be Kaspersky, Trend Micro
    and Bitdefender, but wait up you can have windows defender for free save you
    money just stay safe over the web and on downloading.

    No Anti-virus can say it can protect you all 100% of it
     
    Milo, Jul 28, 2008
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