Bad zoom or bad web design? Probably both...

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by Var, Jan 23, 2007.

  1. Var

    Var Guest

    Go here:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/expressupgrade.mspx

    Zoom in and out and you will see that some elements (an edit box in the top
    right part of the page) of the page will drift to the right. Even is you zoom
    out a lot they (so text becomes unreadable) they will will still remain on
    the right, so the horizontal scroll bar will not disappear and most of the
    page's width on the right side will be empty.

    Bad, bad design. Bad, bad programming. Folks, switch to Firefox!
     
    Var, Jan 23, 2007
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  2. Var

    Var Guest

    I mean, play with Zoom and play with browser window's width. Everything will
    be broken.
    Well, it looks like it's a bad Web design though - Opera behaves pretty much
    the same on this page...
     
    Var, Jan 23, 2007
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  3. Var

    Var Guest

    Go to this Microsofts' page:

    http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx

    Play with zoom and with browser (IE7) window width. You will notice that
    sometimes there will be wide wide margins, sometimes there will not. I was
    unable to find any correlation between zoom value, browser width and margin
    width. It looks like the margin width is set chaotically. Programmers who
    implemented zoom in IE7 apparently have problems with elementary arithmetics.
    Is this the level of mathematics you teach here in the U.S. (Microsoft does
    not hire less than B.S.)? Hire M.S. and PhDs then...
     
    Var, Jan 23, 2007
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  4. Var

    Var Guest

    Wow, this page (the front page of Microsoft's web site)

    http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx

    shows very well how bad IE7 is. Try to select any part of the text - you
    will see what I mean. If you click and start dragging the mouse, the text
    will be chaotically selected. I.e. you can drag to the bottom of the page,
    but text above the mouse pointer will be selected...

    Well, I saw many bad programs but never anything like this - a buggy and
    ugly "flagship" product of one of the richest corporations... Bill, can't you
    find anyone who actually CAN program?
     
    Var, Jan 23, 2007
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  5. Var

    Rob ^_^ Guest

    Hi Var,

    By coincidence Zooming was a field of interest for me today.

    Heres a reference to a published doc (25th July 2004), revised 11th Dec
    2006.

    http://www.designdetector.com/archives/04/07/IECanZoomPagesLikeOpera.php

    It seems that there are design considerations in making web pages zoomable
    (in proportion).
    Well I now know how to calculate DPIx and DPIy of client screens, and which
    elements do or don't zoom.
    Bugger if you can't please everyone and bugger those you never can.

    Regards.
     
    Rob ^_^, Jan 23, 2007
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  6. Var

    Rob ^_^ Guest

    Rob ^_^, Jan 23, 2007
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  7. Var

    Var Guest

    Opera dos a much better zoom job than IE7. This is especially noticeable when
    browsing microsoft.com

    Isn't it ridiculous - Microsoft's own sites do not work properly with IE7...
     
    Var, Jan 24, 2007
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  8. Var

    Rob ^_^ Guest

    Hi Var,

    Haven't you noticed? MS is huge. I can't get past the receptionist to find
    someone who knows about anything. I can understand how they have not got
    around to maintaining their own sites. Its all vapor-ware anyway, nothing to
    get excited about.
    If you are interested I have made some toolbar buttons for IE available from
    http://www.iecustomizer.com/?url=iebuttons
    I have compared these with the built-in zooming of IE7 and Operah and they
    use the exact same algorithim, so I think there are perception issues with
    the way browsers handle other elements of styling while the zoom attribute
    is toggled.

    Regards.
     
    Rob ^_^, Jan 24, 2007
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