Beta is over, but Album Art still doesn't work - who is at fault Microsoft or SanDisk?

Discussion in 'Windows Media Player' started by Thanks, Nov 4, 2006.

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    Thanks Guest

    I have a SanDisk Sansa player and I accepted the fact during beta I would
    not get album art when using MTP, wither when drag and dropping (copy/paste)
    or when using WIndows Media to Synch, but now that Windows Media 11 is an
    "official released product" I'm not sure why album art still doesn't work.

    SanDisk (whose support has been quite good - i.e., at least you can talk to
    someone and they respond to email too) said they do not support beta
    software and was, in this case worthless, in terms of album art.

    Now that 11 is released, is this a Windows MEdia problem or a SanDisk
    problem?

    I guess since it works with 10 I suspect it is a SanDisk problem.

    SanDisk seems to be going "real" so perhaps I'm just stuck with it as is.

    Makes me wonder if I made the wrong choice buying a "playsforsure" after
    all.

    I guess I should have bought an iPod.

    The SanDisk player doesn't accomodate lossless files.
    If I archive my CDs on my in wma lossless, I'd have to also create a vbr of
    them.
    PROBLEMS:
    1) twice the work
    2) twice the space on my hard drive
    3) the library gets bloated (wait this is MS - they are all about bloated)
    4) sync doesn't work

    So I am stuck with MSC mode

    Oh well. You suck Microsoft.
     
    Thanks, Nov 4, 2006
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  2. There's a fair bit of suckiness on both sides.

    FWIW I don't know of any player that supports lossless WMA files, they seem
    to max out at 320kbps, even cutting out many VBR files.
     
    Mike Williams, Nov 4, 2006
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    Thanks Guest

    Actually, some of the hard disk based players do, like the Toshiba GigaBeat,
    but who wants a hard drive. Kind of defeats the whole purpose of getting
    away from mechanicals, for multiple reasons including durability and power
    consumption, and since Samsung announced 32 GB Flash, why would anyone want
    a hard drive?

    The SanDisk has a card slot, but it is very disappointing it doesn't support
    VBR lossless. During beta they told me they didn't know if it would or not,
    and recommended not playing files greater than 192!!!!

    I'm assuming the wma codec is in firmware, so the player should have no
    problem being upgraded, but my guess is SanDisk's shareholders would prefer
    to go the route of requiring us to buy a new player. Such a pity!!

    It is amazing that American companies still haven't learned from the
    mistakes of "Detroit".

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    Thanks, Nov 5, 2006
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    Thanks Guest

    BTW, the SanDisk plays VBR files, at the highest (average) bitrates from the
    CDs I've encoded at 577. But it reads BAD TRACK for lossless.

    If I synch them with Windows Media Player 11, it converts them to 320 CBR,
    but get this.. EVEN IF THEY WERE 250 VBR LOSSLESS!!! Weird!

    It still won't play the 250 VBR Lossless so it is not the bitrate, rather
    the fact it is lossless.

    In case you haven't noticed, Microsoft has also taken away the ability to
    identify the encoding for your files in 11. In 10, it was possible to view
    the encoding, and you'd easily see WMAL via explorer.

    Not sure what idiots are working up there at Microsoft, but why would you
    take things away? Lets see, are they planning on selling us a new Plus! with
    conversion to VBR from VBR Lossless and Encoding views via Explorer?
    Perhaps?

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    Thanks, Nov 5, 2006
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    zachd [ms] Guest

    And the first question is if you have the latest firmware from SanDisk,
    since almost all of the entire WMP functionality is driven by the
    information provided by that.
     
    zachd [ms], Nov 5, 2006
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  6. My 40GB HDD iRiver certainly couldn't and some of the other 6GB HDD devices
    owned by friends haven't either. The 320kbps limit was buried at the bottom
    of the manual. Even with that support I wouldn't go back to a HDD player, it
    took longer to boot the iRiver than my PC!
     
    Mike Williams, Nov 5, 2006
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    Thanks Guest

    Yes, it does. Since SanDisk doesn't tell you what is fixed/updated in the
    Firmware, however I wouldn't know if it has anything to do with 11.

    So is album art controlled by the firmware also?
     
    Thanks, Nov 6, 2006
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  8. The firmware is essentially the operating system for your device, so it
    controls 'most everything.
     
    Mike Williams, Nov 6, 2006
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