Bitlocker wont turn on

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Peter, Mar 7, 2007.

  1. Peter

    Peter Guest

    I was hoping to avoid all this hassle as I don't have a TPM equipped PC but
    I don't like XP wiping all my Vista restore points.
    So I bit the bullet, plugged in my USB flash drive and started up the
    Bitlocker procedures as described in MSFT Technet (
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905065.aspx ) and got
    right to the final point - Control Panel/Security/Bitlocker Drive
    Encryption/Turn on.......and I get an error when the check starts that there
    isn't enough space. There's loads of space. Image of errors at
    Photobuicket here:
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/Ex-Brit/Purrint001.jpg
    I have 77.5gb free out 98.1gb on drive M
    The only thing I haven't yet done is set the boot to USB first in my BIOS.
    That was going to be my next step.
     
    Peter, Mar 7, 2007
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  2. Peter

    Jesper Guest

    I was hoping to avoid all this hassle as I don't have a TPM equipped PC but
    Is M: your boot volume? Bitlocker is designed to protect your boot volume
    only on Windows Vista, although you can get around that with the command-line
    tool (manage-bde.wsf). On Longhorn Server you can protect non-boot volumes as
    well.
     
    Jesper, Mar 7, 2007
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  3. Peter

    Peter Guest

    M: is my Vista Ultimate partition if that's what you mean.
    I have 2 hard drives.
    1 (250gb non-raid) C: XP Pro, D: XP Pro, E: Backup F: Spare G: Spare
    2 (250gb non-raid) M: Vista N: Vista backup
    I have 2 USB drives -
    1 I: Ativa U3 2gb flash
    2 V: Maxtor 1-Touch ll 200gb
    It allowed me to use either for key storage in the setup but then gave that
    error.
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    Peter
    Toronto, Canada
    XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
    P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
    ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
     
    Peter, Mar 7, 2007
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  4. Peter

    Peter Guest

    P.S. I ommitted SATA from the HDD descr. but they aren't RAID setup.

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    Peter
    Toronto, Canada
    XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
    P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
    ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
     
    Peter, Mar 7, 2007
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  5. Peter

    Antoine Leca Guest

    Bottom line, C: is your "system" volume (always; that's where is \BootMgr)
    and M: is your "boot" volume (when you run Vista on it.)
    Beware that's MS' terminology, you may encounter the reverse elsewhere. Also
    beware that the "boot volume" is known as the content of the "%SystemDrive%"
    environement variable...


    How much space on C: ? Doc tells you are required to have 50 MB free on the
    system volume (in addition to all other requirements) to be able to use
    BitLocker.


    Antoine
     
    Antoine Leca, Mar 7, 2007
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  6. Peter

    Peter Guest

    C: Has 53.6gb available out of 79gb.

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    Peter
    Toronto, Canada
    XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
    P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
    ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
     
    Peter, Mar 7, 2007
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  7. Peter

    Peter Guest

    I just noticed:

    a.. A BIOS setting to boot first from the hard drive, not the USB or CD
    drives.
    For any test that includes the USB flash drive, your BIOS must be configured
    to read and write to a USB flash drive during startup.

    Boot first from a hard drive...which hard drive..that could cause problems
    haveing 2 HDD's ??




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    Peter
    Toronto, Canada
    XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
    P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
    ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
     
    Peter, Mar 7, 2007
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  8. Peter

    Peter Guest

    It makes no dofference putting my 1st HD as first boot...same problem.
     
    Peter, Mar 7, 2007
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  9. Peter

    Jesper Guest

    M: is my Vista Ultimate partition if that's what you mean.
    Honestly, I don't know how you keep any of that straight. That's the most
    complicated partitioning scheme I've seen for a long time. I would try to
    remove some of the complexity, a little bit at a time. Start out by removing
    the external drives and see what happens.

    You also need to look at what your system partition is, the one with the
    boot manager. It seems like it is C:, but it is unclear.

    BitLocker really was not designed for that complicated a deployment.
     
    Jesper, Mar 7, 2007
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  10. Peter

    Peter Guest

    The boot manager is def. C: - I think I'll give up on this one and just let
    XP continue eating my Vista SR.
    Yes the setup is strange...but mostly consists of 2 XPs and 1 Vista...others
    are all for backups and storage etc. Not as bad as it seems, although if I
    tell you that I also have 4 DVD burners.....LOL....forget it!
    Thanks for all your help.
    I fired off a note to Microsoft asking if they have ever thought of a patch
    for XP to stop this carnivorous behaviour....;-)
    I'll probably get the usual non-committal reply from somewhere east of the
    Urals.

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    Peter
    Toronto, Canada
    XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
    P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
    ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
     
    Peter, Mar 7, 2007
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  11. I'm not sure what you mean by "XP continue eating my Vista SR", do you want
    to expand on that?

    The original error "not enough disk space" will occur if
    (a) The Vista disk is nearly full (< 3G space I think it is)
    or (b) There's not enough contigious space to store certain data structures
    on the disk
    or maybe (c) Disk corruption confusing the BitLocker driver

    Now that said, given the size of the disks, I wouldn't expect to get this
    error. Can you try the command-line tool instead (manage-bde) and see if
    that is reporting the same error.
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    Jamie Hunter [MS]
     
    Jamie Hunter [MS], Mar 8, 2007
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  12. Peter

    Peter Guest

    "XP continue eating my Vista SR" means XP wiping out Vista's System restore
    points in a dual boot scenario such as mine. I really am surprised that
    this hasn't been addressed instead of forcing us to use various other
    measures.
    Re: the disk space issue, I don't understand why it's doing that either.
    Re: command line....can you expand, I'm not familiar with that procedure?

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    Peter
    Toronto, Canada
    XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate
    P4 HT @ 3.00ghz, 4.0gb RAM, 700gb HDD

     
    Peter, Mar 8, 2007
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  13. Peter

    Peter Guest

    After doing some research with Google, tried the cscript manage-bde...didn't
    work either.

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    Peter
    Toronto, Canada
    XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate
    P4 HT @ 3.00ghz, 4.0gb RAM, 700gb HDD

     
    Peter, Mar 8, 2007
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  14. Peter

    Peter Guest

    Microsoft are hoping to include a cure for this in XP SP3...no promises
    though.

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    Peter
    Toronto, Canada
    XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Ultimate fully updated
    P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 4.0gb DDR 700gb HD
    Sapphire Radeon X1650 Pro Graphics
    Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio

     
    Peter, Mar 10, 2007
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  15. Peter

    Antoine Leca Guest

    [ Rearranged the post to make it readable ]

    Should be enough :)


    OK, another try: you said N: is "Vista backup". Is it a _clone_ of M:
    (byte-for-byte copy, i.e. same SID), or is it just another installation?

    If the former, perhaps this is the reason that is begging BitLocker.
    Again, this is just a thought.


    Antoine
     
    Antoine Leca, Mar 12, 2007
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