Blocked Startup Programs

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Hristo, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. Hristo

    Hristo Guest

    my problem is this:
    i have blocked startup programs and when i right click the icon, and go to
    "show or remove blocked startup programs" the Software Explorer of Windows
    Defender shows up. from there i go to the blocked program and i want to click
    Enable... so it doesn't get blocked anymore... but all three buttons
    "Remove", "Disable", and "Enable" are gray. in other words, i cannot click
    those three buttons. some programs i can click all of the buttons but on some
    i cannot. how do i fix this so i can Enable my programs to run at startup?
     
    Hristo, Jul 16, 2007
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    P. Di Stolfo Guest

    Hello,
    for me, this happens very often, but if I wait until Defender has proceeded
    those programs, the buttons should be enabled again. Additionally, a click
    on "Show for all Users" could help.
    Which programs are having issues in detail?

    Greetings,
    P. Di Stolfo
     
    P. Di Stolfo, Jul 16, 2007
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  3. Hristo

    Hristo Guest

    Thank you for the Show for All Users. The buttons work now and the programs
    are enabled but they are still blocked from starting at startup. the programs
    are AVG Control Center (an anti-virus program's feature) and SSBkgdupdate
    Application for Scansoft's Paperport. by the way, what do you mean by "if I
    wait until Defender has proceeded those programs, the buttons should be
    enabled again" ?
     
    Hristo, Jul 16, 2007
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  4. Hristo

    P. Di Stolfo Guest

    Hello,
    sometimes (maybe it's only my computer), it takes some minutes for Defender
    to receive the programs' status and display it ("blocked", "permitted"
    etc.). Normally, it should be fast, but for me it's often very slow.
    In your case, I'd turn off Windows Defender completely, if I had another
    (better) antivirus and spyware program. You should be safe without Defender
    (I started using Live OneCare and it turned off Defender automatically).

    Greetings,
    P. Di Stolfo
     
    P. Di Stolfo, Jul 16, 2007
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  5. Hristo

    Hristo Guest

    the weird thing is that its really fast to get the status. for both programs,
    the status is "permitted" but they are still blocked at startup. the
    notification window still pops up and says these programs are blocked, even
    when defender shows "permitted". also, Live OneCare seems amazing, but it
    costs money. i wouldn't like to pay because my computer is completely safe.
    its just that the message keeps bugging me.
     
    Hristo, Jul 16, 2007
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  6. It sounds like you are running into this:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/uac/archive/2006/08/23/715265.aspx

    Programs that require elevation (i.e. a UAC dialog box) are blocked from
    running when a user logs onto the computer. This is to stop the poor user
    experience of having to type your admin password multiple times after you
    just typed your user password to log in.

    You cannot change this behavior, so you either need to get Vista-compatible
    versions of the programs that are being blocked or configure scheduled tasks
    for each blocked application:

    http://blog.gerke-preussner.de/inde...cking-Elevated-Startup-Programs-in-Vista.html
     
    Sean Barnes [MSFT], Jul 16, 2007
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    Jimmy Brush Guest

    Hello,

    I made a utility that will allow you to unblock some programs that
    Windows blocks from starting because they require permission to start:

    http://www.jimmah.com/vista/downloads/startupunblocker.zip

    The program works by translating the program startup to a scheduled
    task, as Sean explained.

    - JB
     
    Jimmy Brush, Jul 17, 2007
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    asphaltsally Guest

    I use a program called WinUtilities on Vista as administrator. It is
    constantly blocked at start up. In windows defender when it is selected the
    "remove" and "disable" buttons light up but the "allow" button remains grey.
    In StartUpUnblocker when I click the drop down menu "normal (blocked)" and
    "don't start" are the only options on the menu. Is there some way to allow a
    program like this to start with windows?
     
    asphaltsally, Sep 8, 2007
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    Gemma Guest

    Ik krijg steeds de melding dat SSBKgdUpdate toegang wil krijgen. Geen idee
    wat dit voor een programma is en of dat wel toegang moet krijgen. Wie weet
    het wel? Moet ik het voor en voor altijd verwijderen en zo ja, hoe doe ik dat
    dan.
     
    Gemma, Nov 7, 2007
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  10. I have the same, but the blocked programs include my remote printing, (on the
    network), and even MSCONFIG, as well as other programs. I bought the PC from
    Sony who say it is necessary to do a complete system restart (going back to
    the original configuration when purchased 3 months ago). This is ridiculous -
    they must be a fix for this bug. Vista appears to be full of this sort of
    thing - I have a history of problems. This has cost me many hours and I do
    not wish to have to reload all the programs and various fixes, downloads etc
    again.
     
    Barry H White, Jan 31, 2008
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