Brother Printer Ink Cartridge Nearly Empty --- After Only 2 Weeks!!!

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by midwest_46, Jun 23, 2008.

  1. midwest_46

    midwest_46 Guest

    I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4
    processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space.

    The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME).

    Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is
    a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner.

    ----------

    When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube
    system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors
    corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta).

    The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet
    showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear
    and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be
    done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and
    the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed
    again.

    When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing
    lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the
    yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and
    the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four
    times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and
    visible.

    After the color test, the rest of the installation was done.

    ----------

    In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2
    sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in
    color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed
    out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed
    out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the
    following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink
    cartridge was nearly empty.

    Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power
    supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I
    plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something.
    However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB
    cable.

    Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the
    print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide
    states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will
    regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that,
    in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can
    clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's
    guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes
    ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily."

    ----------

    So, here are my questions:

    1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks?
    The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print
    head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages.

    2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans
    the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the
    machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part
    of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued
    for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads
    whenever they want to?

    3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this
    particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer
    a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively
    lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to
    find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to
    Windows XP would be too much trouble.
     
    midwest_46, Jun 23, 2008
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  2. midwest_46

    TaurArian Guest

    What update do you believe caused this problem?

    If you believe an update wasn't response, perhaps contact Brother regarding
    the disappearing ink.

    Thank you.
     
    TaurArian, Jun 23, 2008
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  3. midwest_46

    TaurArian Guest

    correction "response" should be "responsible"
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    TaurArian, Jun 23, 2008
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  4. midwest_46

    Serge Guest

     
    Serge, Jun 23, 2008
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  5. midwest_46

    bm Guest

    I have an Epson combined Printer/Scanner and when bought new I was warned
    that the cartridges installed would be used for the initial loading of
    colour and black and the cartridges would not last as long as new
    cartridges and I was advised to buy a new set at the same time as buying the
    Printer/Scanner
    It may be similar in the case of Brother
    There was also a warning that carrying out cleaning too often will use a
    disproportionate amount of ink.
    Hope this helps
    Blair
     
    bm, Jun 23, 2008
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  6. midwest_46

    pjp Guest

    First - realize the printer companies are selling INK at an exorbitant
    price, that's the business model.

    Second - new printers often have a less than full ink load in the
    cartridges.

    Third - cleaning consumes ink.

    Fourth - for black and white/text output etc. consider getting a laser,
    magnitude less cost involved with consumables.

    Fifth - inkjets tend to be "use it or loss it" regarding ink, e.g. unused
    and ink dries forcing cleaning

    Sixth - buy the cheapest inkjet and when ink runs out buy another over
    buying just the ink
     
    pjp, Jun 23, 2008
    #6
  7. midwest_46

    Al Bundy Guest

    What were you using for a printer before this?
    Old printers are available from thrift shops, garage sales, the
    Salvation Army, and church rummage sales.
    You could buy the XP upgrade for $87 or so. It should run fine on your
    system and be easy to install.
     
    Al Bundy, Jun 23, 2008
    #7
  8. midwest_46

    mikeyhsd Guest

    new printers come with a "STARTER" cartridge.
    meant to last for just a few pages.
    that way the manufacturer can soak you $ for a new FULL cartridge.









    I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4
    processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space.

    The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME).

    Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is
    a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner.

    ----------

    When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube
    system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors
    corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta).

    The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet
    showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear
    and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be
    done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and
    the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed
    again.

    When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing
    lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the
    yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and
    the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four
    times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and
    visible.

    After the color test, the rest of the installation was done.

    ----------

    In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2
    sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in
    color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed
    out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed
    out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the
    following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink
    cartridge was nearly empty.

    Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power
    supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I
    plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something.
    However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB
    cable.

    Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the
    print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide
    states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will
    regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that,
    in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can
    clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's
    guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes
    ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily."

    ----------

    So, here are my questions:

    1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks?
    The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print
    head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages.

    2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans
    the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the
    machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part
    of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued
    for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads
    whenever they want to?

    3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this
    particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer
    a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively
    lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to
    find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to
    Windows XP would be too much trouble.
     
    mikeyhsd, Jun 23, 2008
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  9. midwest_46

    FrankV Guest

    The answer to that is never buy another Brother printer. I know because I
    have an MFC-5100c at home and another at my small business office. Both have
    the same problem with ink cartridges. I've learned I have to use the "ink"
    button every few days or the problem starts happening again.

    In other words, Brothers is JUNK.

    Frank
     
    FrankV, Jun 23, 2008
    #9
  10. What in the world does this have to do with Windows Update, WinXP OS, and/or
    WinXP Set-up and Deployment?
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 23, 2008
    #10
  11. midwest_46

    measekite Guest

    I would upgrade the OS to at least W2k if the hardware allows.

    Since a set of ink costs almost as much as a printer I would trash the
    Brother and buy a Canon on sale. You problems with the system you have
    will never cease.
     
    measekite, Jun 23, 2008
    #11
  12. midwest_46

    measekite Guest

    pjp wrote:

    First - realize the printer companies are selling INK at an exorbitant price, that's the business model. Second - new printers often have a less than full ink load in the cartridges.

    Not Canon


    Third - cleaning consumes ink.

    Never cleaned my Canon IP4000 in 4 years


    Fourth - for black and white/text output etc. consider getting a laser, magnitude less cost involved with consumables.

    True


    Fifth - inkjets tend to be "use it or loss it" regarding ink, e.g. unused and ink dries forcing cleaning

    Not the case with my Canon IP4000


    Sixth - buy the cheapest inkjet and when ink runs out buy another over buying just the ink

    Poor advice.  Buy the best standard format printer and use OEM ink at Costco.  The better printer usually will print photos better and faster than the cheapest.


    <> wrote in message news:...



    I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4 processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space. The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME). Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner. ---------- When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta). The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed again. When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and visible. After the color test, the rest of the installation was done. ---------- In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2 sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink cartridge was nearly empty. Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something. However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB cable. Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that, in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily." ---------- So, here are my questions: 1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks? The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages. 2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads whenever they want to? 3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to Windows XP would be too much trouble. ---------- Thanks for any information.
     
    measekite, Jun 23, 2008
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  13. midwest_46

    measekite Guest

    Not Canon

    mikeyhsd wrote:

    new printers come with a "STARTER" cartridge.



    meant to last for just a few pages.



    that way the manufacturer can soak you $ for a new FULL cartridge.



     



     



     





     







     





    <> wrote in message news:...

    I have a Gateway computer with the following: 1) a 1400-MHz Pentium 4
    processor, 2) 256 MB of RAM, and 3) 40 GB of hard-drive space.

    The computer is running Windows Millennium Edition (ME).

    Two and a half weeks ago, I bought a Brother MFC-240C printer. This is
    a multifunction device: printer, copier, fax, and scanner.

    ----------

    When I installed the ink cartridges, the machine cleaned the ink tube
    system. Then I pressed "Color Start" to test the four colors
    corresponding to the cartridges (black, yellow, cyan, and magenta).

    The machine printed out the Print Quality Check Sheet. This sheet
    showed a square pattern in each color. If all small lines were clear
    and visible, I had to press 1 for Yes, and the quality check would be
    done. If there were missing small lines, I had to press 2 for No, and
    the colors would be cleaned. Then the Check Sheet would be printed
    again.

    When the Check Sheet was printed the first time, there were no missing
    lines, but (in my opinion) some lines were not clear, especially the
    yellow lines. So, I pressed 2 for No, and the colors were cleaned, and
    the Check Sheet was printed out again. The colors were cleaned four
    times before I was satisfied that the small lines were clear and
    visible.

    After the color test, the rest of the installation was done.

    ----------

    In my regular usage, the first thing I printed out was an HTML page (2
    sheets). Since the HTML page was in color, the printed pages were in
    color as well. After that, during the next 2 weeks or so, I printed
    out or copied about 20 - 25 pages in black and white. Today, I printed
    out 4 pages in black and white, and then the printer showed the
    following message: "Near Empty Yellow", meaning that the Yellow ink
    cartridge was nearly empty.

    Now, I will admit that I keep the printer unplugged (from the AC power
    supply and from the wall phone jack) if I am not using the printer. I
    plug in the printer ONLY if I have to print and/or copy something.
    However, the printer is ALWAYS connected to the computer via USB
    cable.

    Also, sometimes when I printed something, the machine cleaned the
    print head before the printing occurred. Page 99 of the user's guide
    states the following: "To ensure good print quality, the machine will
    regularly clean the print head." The user's guide then explains that,
    in addition to the automatic cleaning of the print head, the user can
    clean the print head manually (by pressing some buttons). The user's
    guide then states the following: "Cleaning the print head consumes
    ink. Cleaning too often uses ink unnecessarily."

    ----------

    So, here are my questions:

    1) How can the yellow cartridge be nearly empty after only 2.5 weeks?
    The colors were cleaned 4 times during the color test, and the print
    head was cleaned a few times, but I have printed only 2 color pages.

    2) If cleaning the print head consumes ink and if the machine cleans
    the print head whenever the machine wants to, then how can I stop the
    machine from cleaning itself too much? Is this some scam on the part
    of Brother to get me to buy more ink cartridges? Can Brother be sued
    for this? Do printers from other brands also clean their print heads
    whenever they want to?

    3) Do I have a defective printer? Should I get a refund? I bought this
    particular printer (Brother MFC-240C) because it was the only printer
    a) that was compatible with Windows ME, b) that was relatively
    lightweight, and c) that was relatively cheap. So, should I try to
    find a different printer? Unfortunately, upgrading my computer to
    Windows XP would be too much trouble.

    ----------

    Thanks for any information.
     
    measekite, Jun 23, 2008
    #13
  14. midwest_46

    Big_Al Guest

    I have a canon IP4000 and love it. Doesn't use ink that much and you
    can buy 3rd party cartridges for about $4 per rather than the typical
    $12 at Costco.
     
    Big_Al, Jun 23, 2008
    #14
  15. midwest_46

    measekite Guest

    Poor advice. You get poorer quality results, increased risk of fading,
    never know what you are buying cause the vendor will not tell you,
    increased risk of printhead failure, and more.
     
    measekite, Jun 23, 2008
    #15
  16. midwest_46

    Big_Al Guest

    Been working for years, guess I got the right vendor.
    Granted I send my photos to Walmart to print and rarely print photos at
    home. For color text printing the ink works fine. Even prints CD's
    fine too.
     
    Big_Al, Jun 23, 2008
    #16
  17. midwest_46

    Kelly Guest

    Kelly, Jun 23, 2008
    #17
  18. midwest_46

    HeyBub Guest

    Ah, the old Gillette business model: give away the razor and sell the
    blades.

    You can refill the cartridges and/or get a cartridge chip resetter.
     
    HeyBub, Jun 24, 2008
    #18
  19. midwest_46

    FrankV Guest

    I was answering questions 1) and 2).

     
    FrankV, Jun 24, 2008
    #19
  20. midwest_46

    midwest_46 Guest

    In a previous thread, I asked whether I should upgrade to Win XP or to
    another Win OS. It was determined that my hardware (RAM, hard-drive
    space) was insufficient and that upgrading the hardware would be too
    much trouble.
    Which problems with the system I have will never cease? Are you saying
    that Brother ink cartridges will always be used up quickly?

    Some of the other posters have said that only the ink cartridges that
    come with the printer are low. So, if I buy new cartridges, these
    cartridges should last a long time. Correct?

    Also, do I have to buy all 4 Brother cartridges at once? Or can I buy
    only the yellow, since that cartridge is the one that is almost empty?
     
    midwest_46, Jun 24, 2008
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