Build 5384 is Slooooooooowwwwwww!!!!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by PimpTwzt, Jun 15, 2006.

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    PimpTwzt Guest

    God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When
    doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again.
    When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just
    sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs.
    Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or
    processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont
    understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G
    with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card
    PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a
    IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my
    graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect
    to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs
    constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are
    installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it
    just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you
    have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I
    can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works.
    What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it
    is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.
     
    PimpTwzt, Jun 15, 2006
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    Gene G Guest

    Pimp,

    I don't know why you're having such problems. I know this doesn't help you,
    but I have a 3.2 GHz 64 bit Athlon, 1 GB of memory, and two SATA drives one
    and a bunch of external drives and peripheral devices. I haven't had a
    problem. I had been to have reinstalled windows XP about a week before I
    installed Vista. So I had a clean install with about 15 programs. I use
    the upgrade install rather than the clean install. I find Vista uses about
    the same amount of resources and is just about as responsive as Windows XP.
    You seem to have a lot of bleeding edge devices that could be the problem.
    I hope he gets some actual advice rather than commiseration.

    -Gene
     
    Gene G, Jun 15, 2006
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    PimpTwzt Guest

    Ya me too. I just stayed up all night trying yet another fresh install. I
    have disabled everything on my motherboard in the BIOS and installed the
    Nvidia vista drivers. It DOES run faster and I am able to do more with it but
    it still hangs for 5+ minutes when I perform to many actions in a row. The
    only other devices I can remove are my cd drives so I think I will just
    unplug the cable from the mobo if nothing there then I will remove the
    wireless card, if still no differance then the graphics card and use the one
    on the mobo. THose are the ONLY other things I can take off. I even dissabled
    USB. Sheesh. Well thanx for the reply and keep em coming guys. Hopefully the
    vista team reads some of this.
     
    PimpTwzt, Jun 15, 2006
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    Jorn Guest

    Have you tried looking for VISTAcompatible drivers on your manufacturers
    homepages? Driver for Sound, Lan, Screen?? Do you have an antivirus-program
    installed? Try looking for updated, also BETA-versions for your hardware.
    Havent had any hardware-related problems here. Even still have XPpro on one
    hd and Vista on another, and the only prob i got is to log onto my
    Internetbanking, and so i still use both OSs. The vista is just to feed my
    curiousity :) If the final vista performs well, i think ill end up buying
    the Premium-version, but that doesnt have anything to do with your prob....
    :)
    Well...good luck
     
    Jorn, Jun 15, 2006
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    Jason Guest

    2 similar things on my system... I had an intel 875p chipset mobo and its
    drivers didnt work quite right... but they did work. I also had CA antivirus
    installed. This combo caused system hangs, slowdowns etc. Removing CA helped
    but in the end switching to my other mobo, nforce3, helped the most.
     
    Jason, Jun 16, 2006
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    Whoowhee Guest

    I'm running an Intel 3.2Ghz dual processor system with 4GB RAM and two video
    cards in SLI. Still not sure if the Nvidia drivers are giving me SLI, but I
    am experiencing some of the usual hangups and glitches with Vista, and the
    system rating only gives me a "4". LOL. Other than that, my only complaints
    are that Readboost crashes my system, WMP 11 wont load my digital media
    files, and Vista wont recognize two of my SATA disk drives, which is okay now
    because nothing is on them.
     
    Whoowhee, Jun 16, 2006
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    bman2409 Guest

    I also get hangups alot...I run P4 2.1Ghz with 712MB Ram and have 512MB ATI
    Radeon 9200X with all of the Vista drivers from the manufacturers
    website...as for control panel it won`t even open anymore neither will
    Windows Update. It looks cooler, has better features but as for performance
    XP is still better. And if any one can help me with my Control Panel problem
    that would be sweet.lol
     
    bman2409, Jun 16, 2006
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    bman2409 Guest

    I also get hangups alot...I run P4 2.1Ghz with 712MB Ram and have 512MB ATI
    Radeon 9200X with all of the Vista drivers from the manufacturers
    website...as for control panel it won`t even open anymore neither will
    Windows Update. It looks cooler, has better features but as for performance
    XP is still better. And if any one can help me with my Control Panel problem
    that would be sweet.lol
     
    bman2409, Jun 16, 2006
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    PimpTwzt Guest

    Well I disabled everything and took out all my hardware except for the mobo
    and processor. Just running on board graphics and the boot time went from 10
    minutes to 44 seconds. The video card was causing the hang up on boot and it
    sped up the whole experiance a bit but STILL hangs quiet often. Dunno why.
    maybe the Nvidia drivers were still loading even though the device was
    removed. I didnt uninstall the drivers. Im gonna try that. *Crossing fingers*
    Thanx for the input guys.
    P.S. Yes I have tryed all manufactures web sites for vista drivers.
     
    PimpTwzt, Jun 16, 2006
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    HDRDTD Guest

    Hmmm, I'm on a 2.8Ghz box right now with only 512meg ram, a FX5900 Ultra
    card, with clean install of Vista 32 on a 36gig raptor., and I'm suprised
    just how smooth everything is running. there is only 1 device that Vista
    didn't install a driver for and is marked 'Unknown' I have no idea myself,
    but everthing is working much better than I expected on a system with only
    512meg ram.

    No hang-ups at all here.
     
    HDRDTD, Jun 16, 2006
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    John S. Guest

    I am using an HP laptop that only has a 64meg video, so the performance
    rating here is a "1". I am experiencing no slow operation except when the
    Trend Micro antivirus is installed. Then the machine runs so slow that is
    takes 20 seconds for the "Start" menu to come up when the start button is
    clicked. The problem is the antivirus on this machine. The only way I could
    recover was touse a restore point before the AV was installed.
     
    John S., Jun 16, 2006
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    PimpTwzt Guest

    Man I replaced all my mobo drivers including IDE and SATA drivers. NOTHING.
    It still creeps along. This is not fare... lol I cant figure out what is
    going on with this thing. Wish I had another build so I could try that one
    out and see if its just this build that conflicts with my set-up. Thing runs
    great in safe mode even with networking enabled. shoot I noticed today when I
    started up in vista it hung for over 30 minutes before it "woke up"
     
    PimpTwzt, Jun 17, 2006
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  13. Hello

    Is Vista installed on a separate partition from your other OS?
     
    Daphne Foldes, Jun 17, 2006
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    Sean M Guest

    try disabling your graphics adapter and see what happens, cause im going thru
    the same problem (vista taking forever to start and running slow on doing
    anything) couldnt figure out what it was but i disabled my ATI Radeon card
    and Vista ran perfectly, give it a try and see what yours does.
     
    Sean M, Jun 17, 2006
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    PimpTwzt Guest

    Yes i had to remove the card and it boots up a hell of a lot faster. BUT it
    still hangs up whenever I open a program or apply a setting. Apparently there
    is still a problem with a device somewhere if others have it up and running
    without fault.

    I have two Drives, One has XP and the other has Vista. In fact when I run
    Vista I have the other drive unplugged. Hopefully they come up with a fix for
    all this asap, cuz I cant do anyting with it right now. It takes away from my
    normal use of XP so ya im going to just wait for now i guess until they get
    useful updates or drivers.
     
    PimpTwzt, Jun 18, 2006
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    BillD Guest

    I have a PC with Overall rating of 1 and Windows Vista beta2 takes less of
    30 seconds to start up.
     
    BillD, Jun 18, 2006
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    Mark Van Noy Guest

     
    Mark Van Noy, Jun 21, 2006
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    Mark Van Noy Guest

    Here is the good you have answered your own question. The problem
    is a driver, or more than one, somewhere. The biggest difference between
    Safe mode and a normal boot is that Safe mode only loads the drivers it
    absolutely needs to run at a bare minimum. When you stated, "Thing runs
    great in safe mode even with networking enabled," it indicates that all is
    well with Vista, but that a driver in your system is not ready for prime time.

    Here is the bad fixing this is going to be a bit of a pain. Yank
    every card, except video, out of the machine that is not integrated and
    disable any integrated devices other than your network adapter since that
    seems to be working in Safe mode anyway. Do a clean install of Vista.
    Without the cards plugged in it won't detect them and won't load the drivers.
    See if there are any performance issues. If there are problems at this
    point it is most likely the video driver. If things are running well then
    start re-enabling on board devices one by one until you have the performance
    problems again. If that goes well then you need to repeat the process with
    your PCI cards.

    Keep in mind that Microsoft does not actually make the drivers. This
    includes the ones that install automatically when you install an operating
    system. The companies that make the hardware devices supply the drivers for
    inclusion by Microsoft. Since this is a Beta you should report your findings
    through the desktop Feedback so that appropriate action can be taken.

    Good luck and please let us know how it works out.
     
    Mark Van Noy, Jun 21, 2006
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    Mark Van Noy Guest

    Here is the good you have answered your own question. The problem
    is a driver, or more than one, somewhere. The biggest difference between
    Safe mode and a normal boot is that Safe mode only loads the drivers it
    absolutely needs to run at a bare minimum. When you stated, "Thing runs
    great in safe mode even with networking enabled," it indicates that all is
    well with Vista, but that a driver in your system is not ready for prime time.

    Here is the bad fixing this is going to be a bit of a pain. Yank
    every card, except video, out of the machine that is not integrated and
    disable any integrated devices other than your network adapter since that
    seems to be working in Safe mode anyway. Do a clean install of Vista.
    Without the cards plugged in it won't detect them and won't load the drivers.
    See if there are any performance issues. If there are problems at this
    point it is most likely the video driver. If things are running well then
    start re-enabling on board devices one by one until you have the performance
    problems again. If that goes well then you need to repeat the process with
    your PCI cards.

    Keep in mind that Microsoft does not actually make the drivers. This
    includes the ones that install automatically when you install an operating
    system. The companies that make the hardware devices supply the drivers for
    inclusion by Microsoft. Since this is a Beta you should report your findings
    through the desktop Feedback so that appropriate action can be taken.

    Good luck and please let us know how it works out.
     
    Mark Van Noy, Jun 21, 2006
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