Can connect to network, cannot see other computers

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by monfried, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. monfried

    monfried Guest

    Like many other new Vista x64 users, I'm able to connect to my hom
    network and access the Internet, but my new HP laptop w/Vista is unabl
    to "see" the other computers or "see" the laser printer attached to on
    of them. Unlike the previous posts, I'm using XP Home (latest servic
    packs and updates), rather than XP Pro, so the fixes that work w/Pr
    won't necessarily work with XP Home (at least, that's one one of th
    experts on the Forum said). Any fast remedies that anyone might suggest
    (Using Linksys wireless router

    Thank you

    Dav
     
    monfried, Jul 31, 2008
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  2. monfried

    Malke Guest

    I don't know what "fixes" you mean that won't work with XP Home. You can
    network XP Home and Vista (either 32 or 64-bit) with no problem. The laser
    printer is a different story; you need to check on the printer mftr.'s
    website and see if they have Vista 64 drivers for it. If not, check with
    their tech support to see if their 32-bit drivers will run on Vista 64.

    Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
    applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
    daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
    systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
    sharing.

    Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
    Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
    and folders:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

    For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
    caveat in Item A below).

    Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
    by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
    firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
    built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
    identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
    to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

    A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
    traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
    Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
    XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
    will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
    third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm
    Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're
    fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance
    with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you
    would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. DO
    NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.

    B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
    is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

    C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
    need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
    assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
    need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
    PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
    to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
    can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

    Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
    http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

    D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
    Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

    E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
    directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
    directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
    See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.

    F. After you have file sharing working (and have tested this by exchanging a
    file between all machines), if you want to share a printer connected
    locally to one of your computers, share it out from that machine. Then go
    to the printer mftr.'s website and download the latest drivers for the
    correct operating system(s). Install them on the target machine(s). The
    printer should be seen during the installation routine. If it is not,
    install the drivers and then use the Add Printer Wizard. In some instances,
    certain printers need to be installed as Local printers but that is outside
    of this response.


    Malke
     
    Malke, Aug 1, 2008
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  3. monfried

    monfried Guest

    Malke,

    Thanks very much for your thorough, helpful reply. All is working now.

    There was a series of small changes needed - including changing the
    name of the XP network to workgroup and, most importantly, finding the
    correct 64 bit driver for the printer (no small feat). The article you
    sent along was extremely helpful and is a great reference for the sort
    of problem I encountered.

    Again, thanks very much.

    Dave
     
    monfried, Aug 2, 2008
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  4. monfried

    Malke Guest

    I'm very happy that I was able to help. Thanks for taking the time to let me
    know.

    Malke
     
    Malke, Aug 2, 2008
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