Can I switch German version to English?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Andrew Fiddian-Green, Mar 17, 2007.

  1. I live in Switzerland, and foolishly I just bought by mail order Vista
    German Ultimate Upgrade when actually I want to have English.

    But before I go to all the trouble to return the software to the mail order
    company, Iwonder if I can anyway make this version speak English? I heard
    that if you have an English version (Ultimate) you can add other language
    packs to it, but my question is can I add English to a basically German
    version?

    And if I can change the language, will it change everything in the O/S or
    would there still be some functions that would remain in German?

    Thanks in advance.
    AndrewFG
     
    Andrew Fiddian-Green, Mar 17, 2007
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  2. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    kirk jim Guest

    you can go from english to any...
    but not the other way around...

    send it back and change it
     
    kirk jim, Mar 17, 2007
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  3. My understanding is that the Ultimate edition is the only one that can
    change languages.

    Have you tried Windows Update to see if the Language packs (MUI?) are
    there? I've seen others say they get them there.

    Try a search on the Microsoft VISTA website on [ Multilingual User
    Interface Packs }
     
    Hugh Wyn Griffith, Mar 17, 2007
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  4. Any language pack you would add would only add support for another language,
    not change the underlying language. The only way to fully "change" the
    language would be to wipe and reinstall using the language you wanted in the
    first place.

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    Richard G. Harper, Mar 17, 2007
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  5. I don't believe you are correct on that but that is only based on what
    I have seen others say; I've not done it myself.

    With Ultimate I understand you can go from any language to any language
    provided the MUI pack is available.
     
    Hugh Wyn Griffith, Mar 17, 2007
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  6. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    kirk jim Guest

    you are not correct.. You have to have english to start with
     
    kirk jim, Mar 17, 2007
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  7. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    Shane Nokes Guest

    You are incorrect.

    Any language for which an MUI update has been created can change to any
    other language.

    Vista has been programmed as a language neutral OS so that MUI packs will
    completely change the OS to the correct language and not leave strands
    dangling.

    It's not an EN-US only feature.

    Please know what you're talking about or at least do the research instead of
    just trolling.


     
    Shane Nokes, Mar 17, 2007
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  8. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    kirk jim Guest

    provide links please


     
    kirk jim, Mar 18, 2007
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  9. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    kirk jim Guest

    I stand corrected! For once you were right and I was wrong! astonishing..

    I hope you enjoy it because this will seldom happen :)

    Indeed Vista is language neutral (XP was not!)


     
    kirk jim, Mar 18, 2007
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  10. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    kirk jim Guest

    kirk jim, Mar 18, 2007
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  11. I have English thanks -- I was born in England.

    But you are still wrong ......

    What you may be thinking of is related to what the following MS website
    says about initially available language packs:

    http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/cfb72225-d7fd-
    46b0-9316-81769ec909791033.mspx?mfr=true

    Supported Language Packs

    The following tables show the supported language packs available for
    the release of Windows Vista. Additional language packs might be made
    available after the release of Windows Vista.

    which is followed by a table with column headings:

    Language | Culture | Windows Vista Starter Language | Language Pack
    Type | Supported Base Language | Hexadecimal Identifier | Decimal
    Identifier |

    To shortcut since I can't really reproduce the table:

    If you were to want to apply Arabic (Saudi Arabia) you would have a
    Partial Language Pack and you must already have installed EN-US,FR-FR

    But if want to apply English then you will find that it is a Full
    Language Pack and under Supported Base Language you will find the magic
    words "Does not apply" -- in other words you can apply English to any
    base language.

    So although some language changes may require another previous version
    this is not universally true and is specifically not true for English
    on top of another.
     
    Hugh Wyn Griffith, Mar 18, 2007
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  12. Check with Microsoft in Germany if you can but see my message to Kirk
    Jim since the MS Technet says you can put English on top of any base
    language.

    But you never know with Microsoft and different countries.

    One point to bear in mind however is that this applies to VISTA itself
    and any applications that came with it on your CD may either not change
    languages or require their own language packs if they comply with this
    new language system.
     
    Hugh Wyn Griffith, Mar 18, 2007
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  13. Thanks for that <s>

    I think people will find this set of pages more understandable and more
    directly useful:

    Manage Language Packs for Windows

    http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/f?en/library/5b61931f-e39a-
    41d0-98a8-51162e13539d1033.mspx

    What you can do to what is covered in the last of the pages under that
    reference:

    Supported Language Packs
     
    Hugh Wyn Griffith, Mar 19, 2007
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  14. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    Shane Nokes Guest

    Also incorrect.

    As I stated to Kirk Jim earlier Vista is programmed to be language neutral.

    Installing the new pack COMPLETELY changes the language of the OS.

    There is no "underlying language" used in Vista.

     
    Shane Nokes, Mar 20, 2007
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  15. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    Shane Nokes Guest

    How would it seldom happen?

    I helped build this OS for 2 years so I know what it can and cannot do.

    On the other hand, you are usually wrong unfortunately :(


     
    Shane Nokes, Mar 20, 2007
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  16. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    kirk jim Guest

    I helped build this OS for 2 years

    Can you explain the above? What do you mean?


     
    kirk jim, Mar 20, 2007
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  17. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    Shane Nokes Guest

    I do side work for Microsoft on occasion and part of that work was on
    Longhorn/Vista.


     
    Shane Nokes, Mar 20, 2007
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  18. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    kirk jim Guest

    Can you tell me in what area is your expertise?

    what kind of things did you do, or do you know?

    thanks


     
    kirk jim, Mar 20, 2007
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  19. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    leapfrog Guest

    I have a new Dell with SWEDISH vista home premium. I have been told it is not
    possible to get English as the OS language without upgrading to ultimate. How
    could MS do something so stupid? Many people living abroad, and even natives
    in foriegn countries want English. I am desperate and will eat my own hat if
    you can tell me how to get this Damn Vista Dell into English without
    upgrading. Or is it simply a matter of waiting until MS adds a download?
    --
    Leap Frog.


     
    leapfrog, May 3, 2007
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  20. Andrew Fiddian-Green

    leapfrog Guest

    I was born in the US, a stone throw from MS headqaurters. I have even been
    jetskiing right past good old Bill Gates's beach. My problem is I now live in
    Sweden and just got a new Dell that is Swedish version. I have home premium
    and have been told you cannot get it into English. I am a student here and do
    not want to spend my few crowns on an ultimate upgrade. Is there any hope for
    me?
     
    leapfrog, May 3, 2007
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