Can WLM filter crossposted usenet messages?

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Will, Sep 25, 2009.

  1. Will

    Will Guest

    I keep on seeing the same messages over and over on different newsgroups. I know Agent can filter these well but I was wondering
    how well Windows Live Mail can do it? I've got the View setting to Hide Read Messages. Obviously that doesn't work. Obviously I'm
    not going to restart WLM every time I read a group. I expect it not to show mean messages that I just read 20 seconds ago. Just
    tried http://help.live.com/
    Is it just me or is Microsoft seemingly incapable of creating anything useful in Help?
    Over and over I put in things only to have totally unrelated results.
    Here I put in this:
    filter crossposted usenet
    trying to keep the search words to a minimum. This would be a very popular subject for a Usenet program you would think. I get 4
    results. None have the slightest to do with crossposting. 3 of the 4 are for email - they have nothing to do with Usenet at all!
    The odd thing is this happens over and over again when I consult Microsoft Help for most any Microsoft product. Just totally
    unrelated results. One wonders how in the world Bing works. They can design an OS but they sure cannot design a help system to go
    along with it. But its bizarre because it works so badly you would think this would be impossible to occur unless they were
    purposely trying to somehow make help so opaque you'd be forced to go to your dealer or some professional for help.
     
    Will, Sep 25, 2009
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  2. If a message is truly cross posted (the poster did one message listing
    multiple newsgroups), then if you see it in one newsgroup and mark it as
    read and have set to hide read messages, then when you go to the next
    newsgroup you should not see it. At least that works for me.

    If the poster did multi-posting instead (posted the same message
    multiple times), WLM will not catch that.
     
    Michael Santovec, Sep 25, 2009
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  3. Will

    skeeter Guest

    is there a rule for hiding cross posted messages? this is a basic rule but i
    can't find how to do it.
     
    skeeter, Sep 25, 2009
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  4. Will

    Will Guest

    WLM is definitely not catching cross posted messages. I see this over and over. But I bet if I mark it read then restart WLM it
    will work on the next few newsgroups. I'll try it later.
     
    Will, Sep 26, 2009
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  5. What sort of Synch options do you have for the newsgroups? Maybe that
    has a bearing on it.
     
    Michael Santovec, Sep 26, 2009
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  6. There's no such rule in WLM.

    For me it just happens my having WLM set to hide read messages (View,
    Show or Hide) and marking a message as read.
     
    Michael Santovec, Sep 26, 2009
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  7. Very strange. If I read a cross-posted message, I definitely won't
    see it in the other newsgroups it is cross-posted to. (Assuming
    you have "Hide read messages" selected.)
     
    Gary VanderMolen, Sep 27, 2009
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  8. There are at least two other assumptions being made too:
    1. Messages are being marked "read" when they are being
    read in the Preview pane. This need not be the case.
    In fact, because of a quirk in WLMail regarding its option
    Mark messages read after displaying for ___ seconds
    I had to abandon use of that option and hence may read
    messages more than once via the Reading pane where
    they will continue to show as unread until I either mark
    them as read or open them in their own message window.
    This happens regardless of whether the message is
    cross-posted but cross-posting may remind me sooner
    that it has only been read using the Reading pane. ; )
    2. A person is subscribing to all cross-posted newsgroups
    using the same news account. Some people separate
    their newsgroups into different accounts and even subscribe
    to some using different news clients. For example, I only
    subscribe to IE Beta using WLMail and IE General with
    OE so I frequently see cross-posted messages twice because
    of that but not because either does not support marking
    cross-posted messages to accounts subscribed to by the
    same news account.

    I just thought of a third reason why messages may not be marked
    read which is worth mentioning that could conceivably affect
    cross-posted messages more than normal. Occasionally it seems
    my WLMail index loses writes to it. This happens most frequently
    with the last newsgroup I read from. That newsgroup typically
    never involves cross-posted messages but if it was I can imagine
    seeing the OP's symptom with it too. However, then I think the
    reproducing scenario would have to involve opening one newsgroup
    at a time and then closing WLMail as quickly as possible.


    FYI

    Robert
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    Robert Aldwinckle, Sep 27, 2009
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