Cannot boot from XP CD (it is Vista relevant)...

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by Neil C, Apr 29, 2007.

  1. Neil C

    Neil C Guest

    Hi,

    I have a pre-installed Vista machine, which I want to install XP on another
    partition. I know this can be done, but when I install my XP CD it doesn't
    get recognised as a bootable disk. I have tried other bootable CD's and they
    work fine. Is there a reason why my laptop will not recognise the XP CD as a
    bootable disk. The BIOS is set to read CD/DVD Drive first, then HDD etc...
    I'm stumped.
    Thanks in advance.
     
    Neil C, Apr 29, 2007
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  2. Neil C

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi,

    Clean the XP disk with a lint-free cloth.
     
    Rick Rogers, Apr 29, 2007
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  3. Neil C

    Neil C Guest

    Yes I have tried that....

     
    Neil C, Apr 29, 2007
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  4. Neil C

    Chad Harris Guest

    Hi Neil--

    The problem that represents is relevant to more users than I think people
    realize who want to dual boot. But I have to launch a caveat for you Neil--

    The rule of thumb for a dual boot is usually to install the legacy or older
    OS first--then install Vista. The dilemma for many people like yourself is
    a new PC with pre-loaded Vista but no DVD so they could format with XP and
    *then make a partition to park Vista on.

    Take a look at this:

    Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of the
    Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529/en-us

    You cannot start Windows XP after you install Windows Vista so that the
    computer can start either in Windows Vista or in Windows XP
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933172/en-us

    You cannot start Windows XP after you install Windows Vista in a dual-boot
    configuration together with Windows XP
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927817/


    Reading your post, I wonder if you have created a separate partition on
    which to install Win XP although again I'd install XP first>Vista second on
    another partition ideally.

    You may also be helped by using Vista Boot Pro, but I still wonder if you
    have a partition for XP to be installed on.


    VistaBootPro from http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/intro.php

    Use BootIT NG to manage and install the bootloader from each OS:
    http://www.terabyteunlimited.com

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 29, 2007
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  5. Neil C

    Chad Harris Guest

    Neil --

    I should have added this link which fits your situation and may help you (I
    saw you have cleaned the XP CD):

    How to dual boot Vista and XP (with Vista installed first) -- the
    step-by-step guide

    http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 29, 2007
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  6. Neil C

    Neil C Guest

    Yeah I've seen all the resources Chad, but the annoying thing, my XP CD will
    just not get recognised as bootable. I have a partition ready to install
    on... The CD works in my desktop PC as bootable. It's just really frustrating.
     
    Neil C, Apr 29, 2007
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  7. Neil C

    AJR Guest

    If it is an upgrade XP cd it will not boot from the cd drive - must be run
    from within Windows.
     
    AJR, Apr 29, 2007
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  8. Neil C

    Neil C Guest

    Nah, it's a full version. Also, from within windows when the CD is inserted
    the 'install XP' option on the autorun screen is greyed out....

    I really dont wanna go through installing XP first then re-installing
    Vista... there must be a solution.... fingers crossed....

    Partition Magic used to let you install OS's on a desired partition from
    within windows which started on reboot, is there a program similar seeing as
    PM doesn't run with Vista???
     
    Neil C, Apr 29, 2007
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  9. Neil C

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Not so, any XP retail or generic OEM disk is bootable. Even all Vista disks
    are, including the upgrade disks, but the upgrade installation must be
    initiated from within an existing Windows installation. XP upgrade disks can
    be booted and installed simply by showing setup a qualifying media disk.
     
    Rick Rogers, Apr 30, 2007
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  10. Yep, I concur with Rick's comments.
    Sounds to me like the OP's laptop CD drive is having problems,
    especially so when the same CD boots fine in his desktop machine.

    Gary VanderMolen
     
    Gary VanderMolen, Apr 30, 2007
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  11. Neil C

    Neil C Guest

    I can assure everyone that the drive is fine, this is the only CD that will
    not boot from. However the CD does boot in my desktop PC. So the CD/Drives
    are fine.
    I am assuming the PC 'knows' the OS i'm trying to install is older than
    Vista and therefore will not boot? Like I say when I insert the XP CD in
    Vista and the splash screen comes up to 'install' 'check system' etc... the
    install option is greyed out, and manually running winnt32.exe says the OS is
    older and will not run....
     
    Neil C, Apr 30, 2007
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  12. Neil C

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi Neil,

    That is much different than stating that the CD will not boot. It is booting
    from the CD, you just can't run the installer, a very different problem.
    Instead of Winnt32.exe, you would use winnt.exe in the I386 folder from this
    mode. Winnt32.exe is used to run from within an existing 32-bit
    installation, like doing an upgrade from Win9x or Win2000.
     
    Rick Rogers, Apr 30, 2007
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  13. Neil C

    Neil C Guest

    I think we are all getting confused.

    Booting the laptop with the XP CD in doesn't give the "Press any key to boot
    from CD.." option.
    Putting the CD in whilst Vista is loaded, loads the splashscreen to install
    XP, but the actual option to install is greyed out and unavailable.
    Running winnt32.exe and winnt.exe both give the same error stating
    incompatible as XP is older than Vista....
     
    Neil C, Apr 30, 2007
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  14. Neil C

    Neil C Guest

    I have got somewhere...

    I booted into safe mode and ran winnt32.exe from there, it gave me a warning
    first (older OS) then let me carry on... so it copied the install files over,
    then rebooted. I was greeted with the bootmanager screen which says Win Vista
    and now Win XP setup... I chose setup, it started copying the drivers over,
    but after it says Preparing to start windows, i get the blue screen "A
    problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage"
    then goes on about any new hardware etc...

    Tech Info: STOP: 0x0000007B (0xF7A57524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

    Anyone any ideas how I get past this?
    Thanks
     
    Neil C, Apr 30, 2007
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  15. Neil C

    Chad Harris Guest

    Neil--

    I don't know if this KB helps or not:

    You cannot select or format a hard disk partition when you try to install
    Windows Vista
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927520/en-us

    Also:

    Windows Vista setup log file locations
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927521/en-us

    Rick is correct that all DVDs are generally bootable as are XP CDs but Vista
    has one exception documented by Darrell Gorter [MSFT] has pointed out and
    that's the volume licensing upgrade DVD which is not bootable. This has been
    documented a couple times on threads on this group.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 30, 2007
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  16. Neil C

    Chad Harris Guest

    Rick--

    I think the one exception to bootable Vista DVDs are Volume Licensing
    upgrade Vista DVDs if I understand Darell Gorter correctly here:

    2/2/07 @ 4:15PM

    "Hello Chad,

    That page is not talking about the media availability specifically.That is
    talking about the license.

    The license for volume programs is for upgrade ( which means that you need
    to have a qualifying OS which would meet the compliance for upgrade
    scenarios(compliance checks). this should be in the license agreement, what
    Windows versions would meet the requirement.).

    You are not required to do an upgrade, You are not required to have the
    previous version of Windows installed. You are required to have a license
    for the previous versions of Windows.


    Some of the people posting in the newsgroups since November have posted the
    names to the downloads that were available from their VL programs.

    In each case they listed both the upgrade and full version names as
    available for download. ( x64 volume is only available as a non-upgrade
    option)

    So I had to ask around and got to borrow an upgrade volume license DVD,so as
    to confirm it is not bootable. This is only Volume upgrade media, all other
    Windows upgrade media should be bootable.

    However I also confirmed that the all the volume license programs have full
    prodcut media available as an option as well. Either for download or you
    can order a DVD. The default DVD shipped out is the Upgrade Volume Media.

    Thanks,
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 30, 2007
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  17. Neil C

    Jane C Guest

    This article may help:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324103

    0x0000007B INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE
    Windows lost access to the system partition or boot volume during the
    startup process. Typical causes: Installing incorrect device drivers when
    installing or upgrading storage adapter hardware, or a virus.

    http://aumha.org/a/stop.htm
     
    Jane C, May 1, 2007
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  18. That's incorrect. All legitimate WinXP Upgrade CDs are bootable.


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  19. Neil C

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi Neil,

    You can't (obviously) run setup from within Vista, it has to be done by
    booting (hence the problem you are having). Try booting to a DOS boot floppy
    with CD support. Load it, then run the winnt.exe file from the I386 folder
    on the CD.
     
    Rick Rogers, May 1, 2007
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  20. Neil C

    Chad Harris Guest

    According to Darrell Gorter [MSFT] on this group on Febuary 2, 2007 after he
    checked it out, and what I quoted was that a Vista Volume License Upgrade
    DVD is not bootable. I'm not sure about XP volume license CDs. I know
    every non-volume license CD that is XP or DVD that is Vista is certainly
    bootable.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, May 2, 2007
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