Cannot connect to computer not joined to domain

Discussion in 'Server Networking' started by Erik Tamminga, Jun 25, 2004.

  1. Hi,

    At work we migrated from a Novell infrastructure to a Win2003 domain
    infrastructure. All went fine and all office computers are now member of the
    office-domain.

    Now when I go home and take my laptop with me I cannot connect to my home-pc
    (browse to a share) and windows complains about not being able to locate the
    domain controllers to authenticate the request.

    A "net use \\home-pc\c /user:homepc\myname" does work. Why doesn't windows
    ask for a username/password when I connect to my home pc via the
    explorer-gui?

    Home-pc is a Windows XP Home edition (SP1, stand-alone, no domains)
    Laptop is a Windows 2000 Professional (member of the office-domain).
    Both are connected via wired-ethernet, no firewalls on either machines.

    Erik
     
    Erik Tamminga, Jun 25, 2004
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  2. Hi Erik,

    The W2k pro machine is a domain member which by
    default authenticates against a domain controller. This
    explains why it's looking for a DC during the logon
    process. You can ignore the message and logon with
    cached domain credentials or create a local account
    and choose the computer name instead of the domain
    during the logon process at home. There are third
    party alternatives e.g., netswitcher which simplify
    the process.
     
    Michael Giorgio - MS MVP, Jun 25, 2004
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  3. Hi Michael,

    The problem is not with logging in to the w2k machine, that works fine
    (cached credentials).
    After I login to the w2k machine I would like to browse a network share of
    my home-pc.
    This is when the problem occors. Windows presents me a message that my
    credentials cannot be checked and does not present me a login-dialog.
    Connecting to the share from within a cmd box using "net use ... /user:..."
    does work. Now my question is: why doesn't the windows explorer gui ask me
    for a username password?

    Erik
     
    Erik Tamminga, Jun 25, 2004
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  4. Okay so when do you get the error message? Do
    you see the home PC in My Network places? Do
    you see the share?
     
    Michael Giorgio - MS MVP, Jun 25, 2004
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  5. You can't do this because the Workgroup Name and the Domain name do not
    match. Make your home Workgroup Name match the Domain name at work.
     
    Phillip Windell, Jun 25, 2004
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  6. Phillip, I have an XP home PC on my home
    network and I have no problems browsing
    the MSHOME default workgroup from my
    XP pro domain member using cached
    credentials..
     
    Michael Giorgio - MS MVP, Jun 25, 2004
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  7. Hi Phillip,

    Well, my home-pc is used as an example. The same problem occurs when I go to
    one of my customers and try to connect to their servers to transfer some
    files. I can't change their workgroup/domain configuration just to copy some
    files and also do not want to change my own domain settings.

    My computer runs Windows 2000 professional with Sp4 and all (known) patches
    applied. The message pops up when I click on the (remote-)computer in
    network neighbourhood. The same message also pops up when I issue the
    \\home-pc command in Start->Run.

    Erik



     
    Erik Tamminga, Jun 25, 2004
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  8. See my reply to Phillips' reply.

    Erik
     
    Erik Tamminga, Jun 25, 2004
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  9. Ok,..well I'm not sure what to make of it then. I haven't dealt with that
    exact issue, but in similar issues I always got a "login prompt" and then
    just simply prefixed the username with the target machine name and used an
    account that was locally on the target machine.
     
    Phillip Windell, Jun 25, 2004
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  10. I agree I would expect a "login prompt" although I
    do not recognize the error message. I am wondering
    if the error posted is the exact error message the
    poster is receiving?
     
    Michael Giorgio - MS MVP, Jun 25, 2004
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  11. The exact message is e.g., . No logon servers
    available to authenticate your logon request?
     
    Michael Giorgio - MS MVP, Jun 25, 2004
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  12. You will have much better luck with this if you log onto the local machine
    instead of using cached domain credentials. When the logon screen comes up,
    click the Options button and select the computername. You will need a local
    user account on the laptop to do this - preferably a member of the local
    administrators group.

    Doug Sherman
    MCSE Win2k/NT4.0, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

     
    Doug Sherman [MVP], Jun 25, 2004
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  13. Erik Tamminga

    Dave Guest

    this case is an easy one to fix. first the customer's drive or appropriate
    folder must already be shared. then you map a drive to their share and
    select the option to connect as a different user. have one of the users who
    has appropriate access to the machine do the login with their
    domain/username and password, then you have access to the share until you
    disconnect or shutdown.
     
    Dave, Jun 25, 2004
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  14. Keep in mind that XP Home is quite a bit different that XP Pro and W2K. It
    uses simple file sharing and everyone authenticates as guest to access a
    share. So first make sure that the guest account is enabled in XP Home in
    Control Panel/user accounts - guest. Then you need to create a share which
    will prompt you to start the network sharing wizard or just bypass it and
    share the folder. Note that the networking wizard will probably enable the
    built in ICF firewall which you make sure is disabled when you are done
    setting up sharing. --- Steve
     
    Steven L Umbach, Jun 26, 2004
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  15. Oops. I was wrong in that the guest account does not need to be enabled on XP Home,
    but file and print sharing needs to me enabled by creating a share. -- Steve
     
    Steven L Umbach, Jun 26, 2004
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  16. Hi michael,

    Yes the exact message is "there are currently no logon servers available to
    service the logon request". I notice there are a lot of messages posted on
    the internet about this error, but none give me a satisfiable answer.

    The problem is my laptop has numerous applications installed (together with
    their settings/profiles). I do not want to login locally because this gives
    me a complete different set of setting/profile in which the applications I
    use do not work as expected.
    Whenever I travel to one of my customers to offer them support I connect to
    their network and would like to transfer some files to their servers. I can
    browse the network and see the server, but whenever I double click the
    server I get this message.
    If I do a "net use \\server /user:username" in advance everything works
    fine. Now what I don't understand is why I'm not asked to enter my
    credentials when connecting to the server via the windows explorer.

    Erik
     
    Erik Tamminga, Jun 30, 2004
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