Can't copy from an IE7 screen

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by Paul H, Feb 25, 2007.

  1. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    When I right-click on my IE7 screen - Google for example - the pane that
    appears ignores anything I left or right click on it - I cannot "select all",
    "create shortcut", or any other choice that is offered. Copy highlighted
    text or paste into fields also is ignored. I use CA Security Suite - I
    wonder if that, or some Vista Security issue, is causing the problem. Or is
    it some IE7 option?
    Thanks in advance,
    Paul
     
    Paul H, Feb 25, 2007
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  2. Paul H

    Chad Harris Guest

    Not a setup install question.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Feb 25, 2007
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  3. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    Where should I ask? I also put this query in "Vista.security". I'm
    attempting to make this new Vista machine useable, and this
    "installation.setup" seems the best place for new confused Vista users. I
    suspect that my questions and the solutions that have been provided have
    also helped other readers. I don't want to abuse this resource, so any
    guidance is appreciated.

    Paul

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    "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
    Not a setup install question.

    CH
     
    Paul H, Feb 25, 2007
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  4. The irony... the only person that could be considered abusing this
    resource is Chad.

    As to your problem, nope, that's not normal behavior. I just tried and
    the functions you mentioned seem to work as they used to in XP. The
    number #1 "security" isssue is Vista's halfass inplementation of UAC
    (the new User Account Control) which imposes all kinds of nag screens
    and may cause some applications to not function correctly or at all
    unless the permissions are changed. The short answer for those kind of
    issues is go to Control Panel, User Groups, find the spot for UAC and
    just turn it off. I doubt your problem has anything to do with UAC
    though. Sorry, haven't seen your problem before here or in the general
    group and it for sure hasn't been answered a "thousand times".

    Does right click work normally elsewhere in Vista and with your other
    applications?
     
    Adam Albright, Feb 25, 2007
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  5. Paul H

    Chad Harris Guest

    Albright gave you a purely ficitonal erroneous answer.

    UAC could be improved and probably will be but it does not "cause
    applications to function incorrectly" a typically witless non-documented
    proclamation. No applications' functions have been impacted by UAC since the
    Beta birthed 7/05.

    The short dumb answer is to turn UAC off. You can learn to live with it
    easily, and the only trick you really need to know is that ocassionally when
    it wants to lock you out of doing something with a folder>rt.
    click>properties>security tab> add the appropriate user and check the box to
    give them permission.

    Turning UAC off scraps the security MSFT has added in Vista and no one
    knowledgable about UAC has been recommending this on any group including
    this one althought it's not a setup/install question.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Feb 26, 2007
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  6. Chad, you're such a idiot. You just fall off the pumpkin truck? Did it
    ever occur to you that everyone doesn't use Win Mail that you
    constantly keep referring to? Some people actually use real email
    clients and news readers, not Microsoft toys.
     
    Adam Albright, Feb 26, 2007
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  7. Be careful Chad, you're skating on this ice.
    Chad the dummy he is isn't aware that these check boxes can often be
    missing or grayed out depending on application or process making them
    impossible for mere mortals to change. Lets ask Chad how you change a
    grayed out option or give administrative permission to a application
    that has no security tab. Come on Chad, tell how you do that. Put your
    clever response right here =====>
    Chad apparently isn't aware that Microsoft has admitted its latest
    "security" effort doesn't always work and oh my God... that's by
    design! Chad will now explain to us why that is. Go Chad, tell us, the
    floor is yours.

    Chad old boy, I suggest your visit the general group you keep harping
    about and you'll see several MVP's saying exactly what I said and why
    they too have disabled UAC.

    As far as Microsoft's security, recently they invited some well known
    "white hat" hackers to try and break Vista's "security" at a
    convention. Nobody but Chad would be surprised that not only could
    they, but demonstrated live on stage how they did it, with several
    Microsoft big shits standing a few feet away with their jaws dropped.

    Chad, on second thought, don't leave this group, you're a riot!
     
    Adam Albright, Feb 26, 2007
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  8. Paul H

    Jesper Guest

    When I right-click on my IE7 screen - Google for example - the pane that
    Starting this thread over because neither the abuse, nor the recommendation
    to try turning off UAC does anything to resolve the issue.

    What you are seeing is obviously not supposed to happen. Most likely, it
    happens because of some add-on to IE that is interfering with operations.
    Presuming that this happens all the time and that you do not have a mouse
    with a faulty button, I would do the following:
    1. In IE, click Tools:Options
    2. Click the Programs tab
    3. Click Manage add-ons
    4. Disable all the add-ons in IE
    5. Close IE
    6. Restart IE and try again. If the problem goes away, it was definitely an
    add-on issue. In that case, go re-enable the add-ons one at a time, testing
    the behavior in between. When you find the faulty one, delete it if it will
    let you, or leave it disabled if not.
     
    Jesper, Feb 26, 2007
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  9. Paul H

    BobS Guest

    Paul,

    After reading Chad's non-responsive help and his rant, one has to wonder if
    he simply put his mind to providing a suggestion to help you with your
    problem - wouldn't he be more productive? I think so....

    But that aside, I have read that the Google Toolbar (if installed) may be
    the problem you're experiencing. Now you may have it turned off but if it's
    been installed you may want to uninstall it and see if the problem goes
    away. The Google Toolbar is loaded with many other downloads and you may not
    have noticed.

    I did a quick Google search and found several posts that may help and you
    can do the same. I used "right click doesn't work in IE7" as the search
    criteria and that turned up a number of interesting posts. Here's one......
    http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1303764&page=1

    Bob S.
     
    BobS, Feb 26, 2007
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  10. Paul H

    Chad Harris Guest

    Paul aside from the fact this has nothing in the world to do with a Vista
    setup/install and that it is routine to steer questions to the appropriate
    group and has been done for over fifteen years on MSFT newsgroups and I see
    it being done right now on at least 50 of the most popular ones by numbers,
    I don't understand your question.

    When you say IE7 screen do you mean an IE 7 browser window?

    If so, why would you be ***right clicking it to select all/create short cut,
    copy highlighted text or paste into fields in the very first place?

    Taking these one by one--if you have an IE browser window open, and correct
    me if that's not what you mean when you use the term "on my IE7 screen". if
    you want to

    select all>click edit>select all or simply hit ctrl+a

    shortcut>simply drag the "e" in the IE address bar in Vista; from the upper
    rt. corner in XP

    copy highlighted text>ctrl+a

    paste+ ctrl+c

    If I missed your point, I'm sorry. If none of the above works, I'd use the
    "side effect method" to disable all add ins and add one at a time.

    If I'm missing the boat on your term IE7 screen which I'm calling the IE7
    browser window, please let me know.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Feb 26, 2007
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  11. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    Bob, you're awesome!!! Removing the Google toolbar corrected my problem.
    You understood the problem I attempted to describe and solved it for me. I
    am sorry I started so much turmoil. I believe I should continue to use this
    newsgroup until I can routinely use my new laptop with Vista Home Premium as
    my primary computer. Unfortunately I'll have to keep my old and unreliable
    XP Pro laptop running because some applications can't be installed on Vista
    yet. And now I'm gun-shy, because a process I thought I could rely on - the
    Google Toolbar - set me back 3 days.

    =======================


    Paul,

    After reading Chad's non-responsive help and his rant, one has to wonder if
    he simply put his mind to providing a suggestion to help you with your
    problem - wouldn't he be more productive? I think so....

    But that aside, I have read that the Google Toolbar (if installed) may be
    the problem you're experiencing. Now you may have it turned off but if it's
    been installed you may want to uninstall it and see if the problem goes
    away. The Google Toolbar is loaded with many other downloads and you may not
    have noticed.

    I did a quick Google search and found several posts that may help and you
    can do the same. I used "right click doesn't work in IE7" as the search
    criteria and that turned up a number of interesting posts. Here's one......
    http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1303764&page=1

    Bob S.
     
    Paul H, Feb 26, 2007
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  12. Paul H

    Paul Adare Guest

    microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group, Paul H
    So to be clear here the context menu appears when you
    right-click but you can't use your mouse to select any of
    the options on the context menu? If so, try using the up
    and down arrow keys and then pressing ENTER when you've
    got the selection you want.
    I've seen this before and the problem was installing the
    Google toolbar. If you've got that installed, try removing
    it and see if that resolves the problem.


    --
    Paul Adare
    MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
    http://www.identit.ca
    "The English language, complete with irony, satire, and
    sarcasm, has survived for centuries without smileys. Only
    the new crop of modern computer geeks finds it impossible
    to detect a joke that is not clearly labeled as such."
    Ray Shea
     
    Paul Adare, Feb 26, 2007
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  13. Paul H

    Paul Adare Guest

    @msnews.microsoft.com>, in the
    microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group, Paul
    Sorry, I should have read the entire thread before
    responding. I see that someone has already pointed out
    this solution to you.

    --
    Paul Adare
    MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
    http://www.identit.ca
    "The English language, complete with irony, satire, and
    sarcasm, has survived for centuries without smileys. Only
    the new crop of modern computer geeks finds it impossible
    to detect a joke that is not clearly labeled as such."
    Ray Shea
     
    Paul Adare, Feb 26, 2007
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  14. Paul H

    BobS Guest

    But confirmation is nice......

    Bob S.



     
    BobS, Feb 26, 2007
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  15. Adam Albright skrev:
    Well said, Adam!
     
    news.microsoft.com, Feb 26, 2007
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  16. Paul H

    Chad Harris Guest

    "The context menu appears when you right click where is the question --on an
    IE browswer window?"

    What context menu when you right click on what where? I thought the OP
    meant an IE7 browser window. I don't understand then, the need for right
    clicking and where it would be done.

    Why is a right click needed at all for these functions in IE7?

    Any problem like this with IE7 if the normal means of doing what the OP
    wants to do aren't happening should include not only a disabling of add-ins
    and incremental reinstatement as has been said, but always at default SFC
    should be run.

    Windows Key+ R and in run box>cmd or type cmd in search box above
    start>right click cmd>run as elevated>type at prompt sfc /scannow.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Feb 26, 2007
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  17. Paul H

    Chad Harris Guest

    Paul Adair wrote:

    "The context menu appears when you right click where is the question --on an
    IE browswer window?"

    Paul H--

    What context menu when you right click on what where? I thought the OP
    meant an IE7 browser window. I don't understand then, the need for right
    clicking and where it would be done.

    Why is a right click needed at all for these functions in IE7?

    Any problem like this with IE7 if the normal means of doing what the OP
    wants to do aren't happening should include not only a disabling of add-ins
    and incremental reinstatement as has been said, but always at default SFC
    should be run.

    Windows Key+ R and in run box>cmd or type cmd in search box above
    start>right click cmd>run as elevated>type at prompt sfc /scannow.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Feb 26, 2007
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  18. Paul H

    Paul H Guest

    Bob,
    I hope you saw my response to you - just in case, here it is again. And I'd
    like your opinion about where I should post questions while I attempt to
    make Vista into a trustworthy tool.
    Paul

    ==================


    Bob, you're awesome!!! Removing the Google toolbar corrected my problem.
    You understood the problem I attempted to describe and solved it for me. I
    am sorry I started so much turmoil. I believe I should continue to use this
    newsgroup until I can routinely use my new laptop with Vista Home Premium as
    my primary computer. Unfortunately I'll have to keep my old and unreliable
    XP Pro laptop running because some applications can't be installed on Vista
    yet. And now I'm gun-shy, because a process I thought I could rely on - the
    Google Toolbar - set me back 3 days.

    =======================



    But confirmation is nice......

    Bob S.
     
    Paul H, Feb 26, 2007
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  19. Paul H

    BobS Guest

    Paul,

    I thought that was addressed to someone else but here's my opinion. If the
    question definitely falls into one of the categories that another group
    (i.e. hardware_devices, networking, etc.) then I would try there first since
    you have a better chance of someone else already knowing a cure or a
    work-around. But if you feel a question is general in nature - such as how
    does a feature work - then there's a vista.general group that is probably a
    good fit.

    But.... I think you'll find a lot of the more critical problems and
    solutions right here in this group - and there's a reason why. Setup issues
    are caused by "something" - even shorts between the ears sometimes. It may
    be that in the end, you learn your setup issue was caused by an errant
    driver or lack of a Vista compatible driver. Now by definition - a hardware
    driver question should go over in the hardware_device group but since you
    didn't know that when you're trying to -setup- Vista - you asked it here and
    rightfully so.

    Now - with all your newfound knowledge that a device driver fixed your setup
    problem, you may want to take a wander on over to the hardware_device group
    and make a post about how your setup problem was finally solved and it just
    may help someone there to resolve their head banging issue.

    Also - if you're making a contribution to the effort (and you are if you
    share what you learned), then I would ask my questions here if they didn't
    fit anyplace else on the chance that the more friendly MVP's and geeks live
    here, they've already been-there, done-that and are a helluva group of
    individuals doing their best to help others (MVP's are volunteers). If no
    one takes a shot at your question - try it elsewhere or try to define it
    better. If the problem is not stated clearly - it's difficult to answer.
    Try to keep it short and to the point - don't combine 6 unrelated questions.
    You wouldn't try to answer one like that - why would anyone else.

    Finally - Google (and any search engine) is your friend and I go there -
    first - on the off chance my keywords (or sentence) are hot-spots - such as
    your question was. Found the connection in about 30 seconds - shorter time
    than it took you to post your question.

    Oh yeah - don't worry about the net nanny's. They can't cut you off, add
    points to your license for bad questions or cause acne. They're harmless
    but very protective of their turf but not to worry - the newsgroup cabal has
    got them under control..........;-)

    Bob S.
     
    BobS, Feb 26, 2007
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  20. Paul H

    Paul Adare Guest

    microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group,
    You seem to be the only one involved in this thread that
    doesn't grok this point. That is your problem, not the
    original poster's problem.
    So, because you don't understand the need for this it
    isn't a valid question? I right-click in browser windows
    all of the time, for exactly the same reason I right-click
    in other application windows; I want access to the context
    menu items that appear when I do so. Why do you have
    trouble understanding that simple point?
    Not that anyone owes you any kind of explanation, but
    here's a simple one; I'm at the bottom of a web page and I
    want to copy some text. I don't want to have to move all
    of the way to the top of the window to use the menus, and
    I don't want to use a keyboard shortcut either.
    SFC has no bearing on this problem what so ever. In case
    you missed it, the problem has already been solved, twice
    in fact.
    Not every problem can be solved via SFC and guess what,
    this is a prime example of one that cannot be.

    --
    Paul Adare
    MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
    http://www.identit.ca
    "The English language, complete with irony, satire, and
    sarcasm, has survived for centuries without smileys. Only
    the new crop of modern computer geeks finds it impossible
    to detect a joke that is not clearly labeled as such."
    Ray Shea
     
    Paul Adare, Feb 27, 2007
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