Cant shut off mail send/receive in WLM

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Bodger, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. Bodger

    Bodger Guest

    I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so
    that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the
    desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around an
    hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every download at a
    time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam software to work
    properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not downloaded to the
    desktop.

    I have checked the registry and find under Current
    User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of
    4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes to
    1800000000.

    I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other 'Live'
    service.

    What have I missed
     
    Bodger, Sep 1, 2010
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  2. Bodger

    Magnus Guest

    Click "Working online" (status bar/lower left corner) and go offline.

    Also... go to Tools/Options... "General" tab.... uncheck "Check for new
    messages". You can also change the download frequency to 999 minutes (though
    some have reported this is ignores), and set your connection attribute to
    "Connect only when not working offline".
     
    Magnus, Sep 1, 2010
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  3. Bodger

    Ildhund Guest

    For each account, right-click on the account name in the Folder pane and select Properties. Deselect 'Include this account when receiving mail or synchronizing'. Then select the account you want to synchronize from the dropdown next to the Sync button.
     
    Ildhund, Sep 1, 2010
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  4. Bodger

    ...winston Guest

    Registry value 1800000000 decimal(or 1b7740 hex) is microseconds

    30 minutes = 1800 seconds = 1800000000 microseconds

    4294967295 decimal (or ffffffff hex)
    - the registry value assigned when 'Send Receive every x minutes is unchecked'
    = 4294.967295 sec = 71 minutes (ie. an hour or so)

    For time conversion:
    http://www.convertworld.com/en/time/Microseconds.html

    WLM, by design intent, will poll all accounts.
    - the supposed rationale has its foundation in the name of the program 'Live' i.e. to ensure Windows 'Live' Hotmail type accounts using DeltaSync(which mirror folders and messages on the web server mail.LIVE.com) are always in sync. Fyi - also consistent with 'Live' Hotmail accounts in the web interface which also poll automatically.

    While, WLM supports pop3...the first and primary focus and intent is for use with Windows Live Hotmail accounts.


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    ....winston
    ms-mvp mail

    "Bodger" wrote in message
    I have unticked the box in Tools/Options/General/ send & receive mail so
    that WLM should not automatically download mail from my servers to the
    desktop. Unfortunately it still does at extended periods usually around an
    hour or so. At the moment I am having to close WLM after every download at a
    time i want. I need to shut this off to allow my spam software to work
    properly and keep spam deleted at the server and not downloaded to the
    desktop.

    I have checked the registry and find under Current
    User/Software/Microsoft/Windows live Mail/Mail/Poll for Mail as result of
    4294967295. If I change the download to a 30 minute period this changes to
    1800000000.

    I am using WLM build 14.0.8117.0416 and am not signed on to any other 'Live'
    service.

    What have I missed
     
    ...winston, Sep 1, 2010
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  5. Bodger

    Bodger Guest

    Thanks all,

    Magnus - 480 minutes is maximum it will accept (8 hours) so that will help.

    Ildhund - didn't really want to go down that route as I want to keep the one
    button does it all idea.

    Winston - So basically it is trying to poll Live Hotmail accounts every 70
    odd minutes or so and in doing so automatically does the same for any POP
    accounts that are ticked for auto sync. I was expecting it WLM to operate in
    the same way as OE did as far as POP accounts. ( I have made the jump from
    Windows XP straight to Win7.

    Now I know what is happening, I can live with it

    Thanks again
     
    Bodger, Sep 1, 2010
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  6. Bodger

    ...winston Guest

    Bodger,
    I should have looked in my registry before commenting on your 1800000000 value and stating it was microseconds..

    After looking at my registry, the value I see for 30 minutes has three less zeros:
    -> 1800000
    Which would indicate milliseconds not microseconds
    - 30 minutes x 60 seconds/min x 1000 milliseconds/sec = 1,800,000 milliseconds

    Thus the max value available is when the option is not checked
    - ffffffff (hex) = 4294967295

    4294967295 milliseconds = ~71,583 minutes (or 49.7 days)

    The unchecked setting, thus does not have any apparent significance to the automatic polling every hour or so(it also occurs sometimes sooner for a variety of of other reasons...a temporary lost tcp/ip connection as one example).

    The automatic polling occurs regardless of any configured 'send and receive' WLM options(and has done so for prior versions).
    The polling occurs by design/inherent code by assuming that syncable Hotmail accounts will be in use for a 'Live' email client. If not present, the polling still occurs with the other accounts coming along for the ride.

    Sorry for the math confusion.

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    ....winston
    ms-mvp mail

    "Bodger" wrote in message
    Thanks all,

    Magnus - 480 minutes is maximum it will accept (8 hours) so that will help.

    Ildhund - didn't really want to go down that route as I want to keep the one
    button does it all idea.

    Winston - So basically it is trying to poll Live Hotmail accounts every 70
    odd minutes or so and in doing so automatically does the same for any POP
    accounts that are ticked for auto sync. I was expecting it WLM to operate in
    the same way as OE did as far as POP accounts. ( I have made the jump from
    Windows XP straight to Win7.

    Now I know what is happening, I can live with it

    Thanks again
     
    ...winston, Sep 1, 2010
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  7. Bodger

    Bodger Guest

    Sorry Winston, My typing error adding the extra zero's in my original mail.
    It is only 5 zero's as you show below.

    So going on what you say below (last paragraph) it doesn't matter what
    number of minutes is set for 'send & receive' WLM will poll and download any
    POP accounts that are set to be included in 'downloading or synchronizing.
    So to stop it automatically polling POP accounts I need to remove the tick
    at 'download & synchronize for each individual POP account as Ildhund has
    suggested.
     
    Bodger, Sep 2, 2010
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  8. Bodger

    ...winston Guest

    Yes...that is correct.
    Unfortunately, I doubt this 'feature'(polling) will change having been in place in WLM for years.

    Personally, I've pretty much gotten used to it. While Outlook is my primary pop3 client, I do have a few of those pop3 accounts redundantly setup in WLM(configured to leave messages on the server) and Hotmail accounts configured for Http/DeltaSync. Knowing that its going to automatically poll(eventually) is workable for my usage pattern..and if something important arrives in one of the pop3 accounts, it serves as a notification to read or respond to a message I might otherwise delay until opening Outlook.



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    ....winston
    ms-mvp mail

    "Bodger" wrote in message
    Sorry Winston, My typing error adding the extra zero's in my original mail.
    It is only 5 zero's as you show below.

    So going on what you say below (last paragraph) it doesn't matter what
    number of minutes is set for 'send & receive' WLM will poll and download any
    POP accounts that are set to be included in 'downloading or synchronizing.
    So to stop it automatically polling POP accounts I need to remove the tick
    at 'download & synchronize for each individual POP account as Ildhund has
    suggested.
     
    ...winston, Sep 2, 2010
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