Change user CAL to device CAL

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by B. Moore, Apr 23, 2004.

  1. B. Moore

    B. Moore Guest

    I understand it is possible for SBS2003 users to make a
    onetime change from user CALs to device CALs, or vice
    versa. It appears my new installation defaulted to user
    CALs. Now I'd like to change to device CALs, but can't
    find information on how do this. Can anyone give me a
    hand with this?

    Cheers,
    Brian
     
    B. Moore, Apr 23, 2004
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  2. From the FAQ
    (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/techinfo/overview/generalfaq
    .mspx)

    Q. What is the difference between a device CAL and a user CAL?
    A. A device CAL permits one device (used by any user) to access the server
    software. A user CAL permits one user (using any device) to access the
    server software.

    Q. Why is Microsoft offering both user CALs and device CALs for Windows
    Small Business Server 2003?
    A. Microsoft offers both user and device CALs for Windows Small Business
    Server 2003 to ensure that customers can implement a licensing plan that
    enables users to access the network using not only laptops and desktop
    computers, but also remote devices such as Pocket PCs and Smartphones.

    Q. Can I use a device CAL and a user CAL on the same server?
    A. Yes, device and user CALs can both be used on the same server. But for
    easier managing and tracking, we strongly recommend that you buy either
    user CALs or device CALs, not both.

    Q. Is there a difference in price between user CALs and device CALs?
    A. No, user CALs and device CALs cost the same.

    Q. Can I switch between user CALs and device CALs?
    A. If you have Software Assurance for your Windows Small Business Server
    2003 CALs, you can switch between user CALs and device CALs, or vice versa,
    when you renew your Software Assurance contract. If you do not have
    Software Assurance for your Windows Small Business Server 2003 CALs, then
    you cannot switch.

    Chris Ard
    Small Business Server
    Enterprise Platforms Support

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Newsgroups:
    SBS 4.x : microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz
    SBS 2000: microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000
    SBS 2003: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
     
    Chris Ard [MSFT], Apr 23, 2004
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  3. B. Moore

    B. Moore Guest

    Thanks for your response, Chris. But that doesn't answer
    the question. The question is, "How can I actually make
    the onetime change?"

    Cheers,
    Brian
     
    B. Moore, Apr 23, 2004
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  4. There isn't a tool or application where you would make any changes. The
    change is made on paper for your records.

    Chris Ard
    Small Business Server
    Enterprise Platforms Support

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    Newsgroups:
    SBS 4.x : microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz
    SBS 2000: microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000
    SBS 2003: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
     
    Chris Ard [MSFT], Apr 23, 2004
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  5. Brian,

    Are we talking about the 5 built-in CALs? Your installation didn't default
    to User CALs because the server cannot differentiate between them. The type
    of CAL is licensing/legal (as in paper) stuff... the server doesn't know or
    care about it.

    What you have to do is get the CAL piece of paper that you got with your SBS
    and write on the top (there a blank provided for it) which type are those.
    Additional CALs must be purchased with the correct denomination.

    BTW-> The link that Chris provided answers this part of your question. Check
    the question "Are the five CALs that came with the server license per device
    or per user?"
     
    Javier Gomez [SBS MVP], Apr 23, 2004
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  6. This is where I start to get really confused

    Believe me... you are not the only one :)
    Partially correct. For example, you could have an user that access the
    server only for OWA/RWW/Share from its home PC without being part of the
    domain. Although the user account must exist the "device" domain account
    does not (and you could have been using Device CALs).
    As I stated before... the server itself is not influenced by the type of CAL
    you installed. That's a nice way of saying that the server doesn't care and
    can't differentiate between the two. Just don't ask me why!
    Legally, the CALs are assigned to those 5 managers. You cannot allow other
    users to take these 5 user CALs (unless is in a permanent or semi-permanent
    basis, like maternity leave). You are supposed to follow this even if SBS
    doesn't enforce it.
    That's the beauty of user and device CALs... right now you can do it with 15
    CALs. In SBS2k you would need 25!
     
    Javier Gomez [SBS MVP], Apr 24, 2004
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  7. Are you saying that the "users" that are legally licensed thru a DEVICE
    CAL
    Well... if the device CAL belong to the home computer: yes. Although, I
    would admit is not a likely scenario (I can think of others more common).

    However, don't interpret this as you can have an user that works in the
    office (which has a device CAL associated with it) and then access it from
    home using that same device CAL (in that case you would need 2, but only 1
    if it were user CAL). You could do that SBS2000 (since no user CALs were
    available), but not with SBS2003.
     
    Javier Gomez [SBS MVP], Apr 24, 2004
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  8. Glad to help! :)
     
    Javier Gomez [SBS MVP], Apr 24, 2004
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  9. B. Moore

    Brian Moore Guest

    Then I guess I'm confused. This is my first SBS 2003
    install. I'm trying to insure that I don't end up in a
    situation where I get locked into a per seat (user)
    license mode. There is a relatively high number of part
    time employees at this account. So the per device license
    model fits much better.

    Are there steps that must be taken during user setup that
    determine whether the system will operate in per seat or
    per server mode?

    Thanks for your help,
    Brian
     
    Brian Moore, Apr 26, 2004
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  10. If you are buying retail CALS you buy user or device cals via the SKUs.
    The initial base doesn't matter.
     
    Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP], Apr 26, 2004
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