Clone Vista onto new larger drive

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by jdr.smith, Feb 15, 2008.

  1. jdr.smith

    jdr.smith Guest

    OK,

    Hard drive is full, I've bought a larger new replacement drive,
    changing from EIDE to SATA into the bargain...

    In the old days I would have just reached for my copy of Norton Ghost,
    a short while later I had an exact copy of my original drive on a
    larger drive, swap them over, job done.

    Now...Vista...where do we start with that ?

    Anyone any recomendations on any cloning software to use with Vista.

    I am aware that I may need to speak to Microsoft to get it re-
    activated afterwards, but hey that's no great shakes is it.

    What I'm after is a cloning program for Vista, ideally a free one..?

    Jim.
     
    jdr.smith, Feb 15, 2008
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    Malke Guest

    You can still use Ghost (probably not your old copy, however) or Acronis
    True Image (my preference) with Vista. I don't know why you think you
    can't. It works fine. The tricksy bit will be to go from IDE to SATA. I
    know it can be done, but someone else will need to tell you how.

    Malke
     
    Malke, Feb 15, 2008
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    cheen Guest

    cheen, Feb 15, 2008
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    Bob Harris Guest

    If this were XP, you would need to do a repair installation of XP after the
    cloning in order to install SATA drivers, since XP has not native support
    for SATA. And, to do that repair you would need a retail XP CD, the same
    one that installed originally, or a new CD with associated unused license.

    Try a few newsgroup/google searches to see whether Vista is any smarter, or
    how to procede
     
    Bob Harris, Feb 15, 2008
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    AlexB Guest

     
    AlexB, Feb 16, 2008
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  6. jdr.smith

    AlexB Guest

    Bob hi,

    Could you elaborate on that. I am just curious. I installed XP on a few
    machines in the past with MB that does not even have IEDE support. They had
    only SATA slots. The MB was definitely designed for XP but at the time I
    purchased it from DELL I wanted Win2K badly (it was a bad idea which I later
    came to regret). So, they installed Win2K on 3 machines which I later had to
    abandon. I installed XP on same SATA drives then Vista.
     
    AlexB, Feb 16, 2008
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    forty-nine Guest


    The Dell Installation disk have SATA drivers...that's why.
    My Dell XP SP2 installs just fine on SATA.

    Try "bottom posting"......it 's the RAGE
     
    forty-nine, Feb 16, 2008
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    AlexB Guest

    Thanks a lot for the tip yesterday. I installed the driver for nVidia 7600
    with no problem. It allowed me to finish off the last piece of work that
    tied me to XP so far. Settled my last accounts with the old OS.

    I should also give my thanks to DanS. You both have good awareness.

    What is wrong with top posting? I am personally quite irritated when I have
    to go down the long window and see what is down there. I would prefer
    everyone would do it. Let's set a new rule: everyone top post from today.

    I am kind of serious believe it or not.
     
    AlexB, Feb 16, 2008
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    forty-nine Guest


    Does this.

    Top posting.

    No sense.

    It really makes.

    When you bottom post , its like reading a book from the beginning.

    When you top post, its good for reading one liners...but you lose the "jist"
    of the conversation.

    NoStop top post....DON'T BE A COMMIE !
     
    forty-nine, Feb 16, 2008
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    NoStop Guest

    hehe, OK. :)

    Cheers.

    --
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    How a Windows Firewall protects your computer:
    http://tinyurl.com/2z9qdn

    AlexB (another Vista expert): "I ruined at least 5 or 6 installations of
    Vista before I realized what was going on."

    Contact AlexB to find out how to "delouse" your Vista system.
     
    NoStop, Feb 16, 2008
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    Gary Mount Guest

    If you have Vista Ultimate, you could do a complete pc backup, then replace
    your hard drive, then do a restore onto the new larger drive.
     
    Gary Mount, Feb 16, 2008
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    jdr.smith Guest

    I've got Windows Vista Business, so I am trying the Complete PC
    Backup / Restore option.

    So far so good.

    I performed a Complete PC backup onto my external USB HDD.

    Then shut down, removed my internal EIDE 80GB HDD and attached the new
    SATA 250GB HDD

    Then inserted the Windows Vista DVD and booted to that and selected
    the repair option.

    Then selected the Complete PC Restore option.

    Went throught the steps, not a lot you can change, most if not all
    fields are locked.

    Started the restore, and just as it was about to kick off it said that
    it could not complete due to no drives being found or drives of a
    different size to the original backup !!!! eh..????

    So I went back a step and dropped down to the MS-DOS box.. Uhh..seems
    that it's made my Maxtor external USB drive the C:\ drive ?

    OK, restart without the Maxtor connected, then attached that after
    everything has got going...OK that doesn;t work, now cannot see the
    Maxtor drive at all.

    Back to the original setup again...

    ...weird...this time it's doing it OK....though I think it's going to
    restore the backup to an 80GB partition..I really don't want this, I'd
    like the whole C:\ drive to be 250GB..

    Anyone had any experience with Vista's Complete PC backup and more
    importantly a Complete PC Restore.

    Ideally I want the backup to restore onto the new drive but using the
    entire disk.

    Dontcha just love Vista eh !

    Methinks I might be doing a fresh install and then doing a File and
    Settings Transfer... :-(

    Jim.
     
    jdr.smith, Feb 16, 2008
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    jdr.smith Guest

    Ideally I want the backup to restore onto the new drive but using the
    Then again I suppose I could always extend the disk partition to
    include the remaining space with that new natty Vista tool.(perhaps
    that's why it's included...) .would I trust the system after
    that...Hmmm...

    Jim.
     
    jdr.smith, Feb 16, 2008
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    jdr.smith Guest

    Then again I suppose I could always extend the disk partition to
    OK it's finished restoring...

    At first it wouldn't boot so I turned off and booted back to the DVD
    disk and ran the Repair option, selected the C:\Windows folder to
    repair.

    It said that I should disconnect my USB camera and try again ???? (no
    camera connected obviously)

    So I disconnected the external USB and also removed the DVD disk and
    then it booted up OK.

    Seemed to take a long time booting into my profile, but once it had
    got in it said that it needed a restart.
    Did that booted back up and then all looked OK, albeit it was on an
    80GB partition as expected.


    OK, lets extend the volume then using the new option in Disk
    Management..
    Did that, added the extra 159GB, job done. now have one single 232GB
    volume

    So all seems to have worked, even went from EIDE to SATA as well, I
    wasn't counting on that working !

    Several trial reboots later all seems OK. Wonder how long that will
    last ;-)

    I've have a bit of a play around before I commit to using it.

    Anyone think of anything to look out for ?

    So seems that you can do it with just the native bits and bobs.

    Jim.
     
    jdr.smith, Feb 16, 2008
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  15. Ok, try this:

    Install the sata drive on your motherboard, don't bother putting it
    in the case. Format it the way you want. Now *copy* c: to whatever drive
    letter windows assigns.

    Turn it off, remove the current C drive and properly install the
    new sata drive. Boot the windows cd and repair your installation.

    If windows can't see the sata drive then you need to load sata
    drivers which will be available from your motherboard vendor.
     
    the wharf rat, Feb 16, 2008
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  16. Is there a reason you didn't merely attach your new drive, then copy *.* old
    drive to new drive, then remove old drive and boot from the new drive?
     
    Cameron Snyder, Feb 16, 2008
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    jdr.smith Guest

    Wanna run that one past me Cameron ?...how is that gonna work then..

    Jim.
     
    jdr.smith, Feb 16, 2008
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    jdr.smith Guest

    Am I missing a trick or two here with you guys...what happens to the
    literally hundreds of files that are going to come up with access
    denied when you are doing this.

    I take it you've tried this yourself ?

    Jim
     
    jdr.smith, Feb 16, 2008
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    Not Me Guest


    And I thought only Liberals & Democrats top posted...wait, they ARE
    Commies...and then there is Frank....
     
    Not Me, Feb 16, 2008
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  20. jdr.smith

    Not Me Guest

    He wants a bootable 'clone' without reinstalling.
    Copying the files from one drive to another (then sys'ing the drive) hasn't
    worked in a long time.
    I had a batch file that I could use in W95/98/ME for that, but it hasn't
    worked in XP ever.
     
    Not Me, Feb 16, 2008
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