Connecting PPC Wm5 & PC-CAL V USER-CAL

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by jd, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. jd

    jd Guest


    CALs: Ive read the help articles on CALS to no avail.

    If I setup a new USER can I add multiple PCs to that user??

    For example, Ive created a new user "NEWUSER" the wizard also creates a
    "PC-CLIENT" name. When I browse to the SBS "CONNECT" webpage, I enter new
    user and am then presented with "CLEINT" as the PC name.

    Have I used 2 CALs in the example above?
    Can I add another PC to the NEWUSER without using up a CAL

    After configering the NEWUSER and PC-CLIENT, I was interested to see what
    access that user would have with a PPC running WM2005. I navigated
    (internal) to the SBS server home page, but nothing would display!

    Whats the schema regarding TRUE mobile devices and SBS?


    jd, Jan 16, 2006
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  2. SBS CALs are allocated to physical things - people for User CALs, and
    machines (desktops/laptops/PDA's/SmartPhones/etc) get Device CALs.

    All authenticated access to the SBS from a machine by a user must be
    covered by at least one allocated SBS CAL (ie either the machine has a
    Device CAL, or the person has a User CAL, or both). As long as this rule
    is met, you can have as many people or devices as you wish (eg 200
    employees sharing <75 machines with Device CALs is OK, 1 employee using a
    desktop, laptop, PDA and smartphone with a User CAL is OK).
    Steve Foster [SBS MVP], Jan 16, 2006
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  3. jd

    jd Guest

    Ok so assume Im going for "users" rather than devices.
    If I add a user Im asked to add a computer/device name!

    If I dont add the computer/device name then how will the device logon to the
    domain without an authenticated computer/device name?

    Can I have 20 computers all with the same "user" login and "device" name and
    sync 20 Outlook mailboxes??
    jd, Jan 16, 2006
  4. You're asked if you'd like to set up a computer for the user, and if you
    choose yes (the default), it asks what you'd like to call it.

    This is an optional step. The wizard is simply trying to help you
    pre-configure a machine for the new user account you've just defined.
    After all, this new user account has to log on *somewhere* ...
    Somewhere along the line, PCs will need to be joined to the domain - you
    can do this manually, or let the wizards help you. If you don't set up a
    computer as part of the New User wizard, you can use the Add Computer
    wizard instead.
    No, computer names have to be unique, like user account names.

    If you configure many devices for the same user account, then the Outlook
    profiles generated will all be for that same user account.
    Steve Foster [SBS MVP], Jan 17, 2006
  5. jd

    jd Guest

    And regardless of whether I create a user or a device, each will eat up a
    single CAL, yes?

    So if I create 1 user and assign 1 device to the user thats 2 CALs yes?
    jd, Jan 17, 2006
  6. No. CALs are used by physical things. SBS User Accounts and Computer
    Accounts are not relevant for CAL management.
    No. The SBS doesn't track CAL usage (ignore anything it says about it).
    The only thing the SBS knows is how many CALs you have, and even then, it
    has no idea whether those CALS are User or Device CALs.

    It's really not that complicated. All authenticated access to the SBS from
    a physical device by an actual person must legally be covered by an SBS
    CAL. That can be a User CAL (stapled to the person's forehead), or a
    Device CAL (glued to the device), or both can have a CAL (because someone
    with a User CAL uses a device that's been allocated a Device CAL).

    Example scenarios:

    * a row of 10 hotdesk PCs, shared by 50/100/200/1m staff who only log on
    in the office, can be legal by allocating 10 Device CALs to the PCs.

    * an employee with a laptop, desktop, PDA and smartphone all accessing SBS
    can be legal by allocating a single User CAL to the employee.
    Steve Foster [SBS MVP], Jan 18, 2006
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