Constant FREEZES and no infections

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by I.C. Greenfields, Feb 11, 2009.

  1. No infections of any kind can be found on this PC, yet MSMail, MozillaFF and
    IE7 lock up constantly. How can this be fixed short of a reformat and
    reinstall of the OS? Vista has been as unstable as W98 for us. Is there any
    way to get it as stable as XP? Does anyone know what causes these constant
    W98 type freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?
     
    I.C. Greenfields, Feb 11, 2009
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  2. I.C. Greenfields

    Mick Murphy Guest

    You don't say whether a clean install or upgrade.
    No hardware specs to see if your computer is capable of running Vista
    properly.
    We don't know what applications you are running.

    You don't say what you have scanned your System with.
    There are many applications to find different kinds of infections, spyware,
    Malware, Keyloggers.

    Post a proper question.

    "freezes so many of us are enduring with Vista?"
    Exact number please!
     
    Mick Murphy, Feb 11, 2009
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  3. I.C. Greenfields

    Grand_Poobah Guest

    --->
    Are you learning impaired? This answser has been given to you many
    times yet you still ask the same question. What par of:

    UNINSTALL ZONEALARM

    Don't you understand?

    Questor
     
    Grand_Poobah, Feb 11, 2009
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  4. I.C. Greenfields

    Questor Guest

    --->
    This guy has been asking the same question in several groups for the
    last couple of days. We all answer him, but he chooses to ignore our
    advice. He needs to uninstall ZoneAlarm until they fix the bug that
    traps these programs and won't allow killing them.

    Questor
     
    Questor, Feb 11, 2009
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  5. I.C. Greenfields

    Mick Murphy Guest

    Questor, thanks for that. I haven't come across his other posts.

    Cheers.
     
    Mick Murphy, Feb 11, 2009
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  6. Exactly how (using what software) did you look for "infections of any
    kind"?



    In my experience, on my own two Vista machines (one running Vista for
    over two years, since rtm in November 2006) and on many others, Vista
    has been absolutely stable, and has *never* crashed nor locked up.

    So if your experience is different from mine, be aware that the
    problem is not Vista, as you apparently believe, but is something
    specific to *your* computer. Here are the possibilities:

    1. Malware infection (despite what you think).

    2. Hardware (or drivers for the hardware) that doesn't get along with
    Vista.

    3. Software that doesn't get along with Vista.

    4. Some error you've made in setting up or configuring your machine.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 11, 2009
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  7. I.C. Greenfields

    Questor Guest

    --->
    Ken, give up on this guy. He has been asked for that information
    several times. No reply from him. And, he still makes these posts
    again and again.

    Questor
     
    Questor, Feb 12, 2009
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  8. Thanks. I hadn't remembered that.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 12, 2009
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  9. This is a HP and already had Windows Vista Home Premium installed.
    A-Squared, WindowsDefender (runs), Spybot, Ad-Aware, AVG and now Avira -
    nothing was found and Task Monitor will not close "Not Responding" programs
    of any kind.
    At the office? About 8 of the 15 PCs run no better than W98. Also read
    these forums and others. Lockups are not unique with Vista.
     
    I.C. Greenfields, Feb 13, 2009
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  10. What BUG is trapping the programs and stopping Task manager from working and
    causing the lockups? I did remove Zone Alarm this morning, but you failed
    to tell me what to replace it with that monitors crap trying to phone home.
    MS firewall allows anything and everything to connect to the net.
     
    I.C. Greenfields, Feb 13, 2009
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  11. What part of I did uninstall it and am still waiting for you to recommend
    another firewall that blocks unwanted outgoing connections.
     
    I.C. Greenfields, Feb 13, 2009
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  12. Thanks. I'll check it out. What firewall do you recommend that monitors
    both ways?
     
    I.C. Greenfields, Feb 13, 2009
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  13. See long list above - including WindowsDefender.
    Then why is this one and and at least 7 in the office? Why were there no
    problems with the old XP machines locking up?
    And how would I know which one is causing so many programs to lock up in
    cluding IE7, MozillaFF, WMail, TaskManager etc?
    And how can I know that? Everything freezes at one time or another. It's
    like the BLUE screen of death without the blue screen.

    It's out of the box so I don't know what you mean as far as configurations
    and setting up.
     
    I.C. Greenfields, Feb 13, 2009
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  14. What do you mean no reply? If see replies I answer them. Some people have to
     
    I.C. Greenfields, Feb 13, 2009
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  15. If you have unwanted outgoing connections then your system is
    already compromised. A resident Trojan virus can easily disable
    the outgoing portion of the firewall. The primary wall of defense
    should be prevention of incoming viruses and malware.
     
    Gary VanderMolen, Feb 13, 2009
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  16. If you have unwanted outgoing connections then your system is
    already compromised.

    It's compromised by WMP for example?

    A resident Trojan virus can easily disable
    the outgoing portion of the firewall. The primary wall of defense
    should be prevention of incoming viruses and malware.

    Please recommend software that monitors connections both ways that works
    with Vista.
     
    I.C. Greenfields, Feb 13, 2009
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  17. I.C. Greenfields

    Mick Murphy Guest

    http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

    Malwarebytes is as the name says, a Malware Remover!
    For the Free version scroll down their page to either download from
    Download.com, or Major Geeks.com

    Sounds like you do have an infection. Defferent programs find different
    things.
    Give the above a whirl.
     
    Mick Murphy, Feb 13, 2009
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  18. I.C. Greenfields

    Questor Guest

    --->
    ZoneAlarm traps programs (notably web browsers and email clients) by
    holding them in the 'system' area which prevents 'user' programs such as
    Task Manager and Process Explorer from killing them. In the ZA forum,
    there are quite a few posts pertaining to this particular bug. They
    appear to be working on it, but haven't come up with a solution yet.

    Questor
     
    Questor, Feb 13, 2009
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  19. I used to recommend ZA because of its outward protection, I've more
    recently become convinced that outward protection is an illusion. Once
    one of the nasties gets into your computer, it can essentially do
    whatever it wants, including circumventing the firewall. So the extra
    protection that a firewall that monitors outbound traffic provides is
    more apparent than real.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 13, 2009
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  20. Inline:

    Any outbound connections eminating from WMP are benign (not
    malicious). It's the malicious malware you should be cncerned about.
    Windows Firewall in Vista can be configured to monitor outbound
    connections, should you be so inclined. See
    http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/windows-firewall-enable-outbound-filtering
     
    Gary VanderMolen, Feb 13, 2009
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