Converting a domain to a workgroup ?

Discussion in 'Windows Server' started by C-A Berseth, Aug 4, 2006.

  1. C-A Berseth

    C-A Berseth Guest

    Hi all,

    Our unit is restructuring...
    We are planning to remove the domain controller (Win2000 Server) and convert
    to a simple workgroup structure.
    There are around 10 PCs (Win2k and XP Pro).
    Apart from the hassle of moving the centralized file storage (and backup !)
    from the server to one of the PCs, what
    should I be cautious about when doing the move ?
    - The DHCP service will be handled by another server on the same subnet. Any
    other important services that I need
    to relocate ?
    - I will probably have to choose a different name for the new workgroup,
    will this break some features or serices ?
    - When converting the PCs from "domain" to "workgroup", will the existing
    user accounts remain valid ?

    All help will be appreciated !
    C-A Berseth, Aug 4, 2006
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  2. C-A Berseth

    Anthony Guest

    All domain accounts will be gone. Anything set up to use domain accounts
    will cease to work. Any profile for a domain user account will cease to be
    You probably want to start by making sure everyone is using a local account
    for everything. Then you can have each PC leave the domain. Then you can
    demote the DC.
    Anthony, Aug 4, 2006
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  3. Profiles used under the domain account will still be
    accessible although the OP may need to change the
    existing permission structure.

    There is a more serious problem: If the OP moves to
    a workgroup model then he is likely to exceed the
    maximum number of concurrent share connections,
    which is 10. Lots of people with "around 10 PCs"
    (the OP's words) have tripped over this one.
    Pegasus \(MVP\), Aug 4, 2006
  4. C-A Berseth

    Gregg Hill Guest

    There is nothing "simple" about a ten PC workgroup. As you noted, you will
    lose centralized file storage and backup, which should be reason enough to
    stay with a domain.

    Why would you want to move your centralized storage from a device designed
    for that purpose (your server) to a device that probably cannot handle it
    (your PC)? Keep in mind the 10-connection limit for 2000 Pro and XP Pro,
    also, as someone else mentioned.

    If your goal is to have a workgroup, you could demote the DC to be a
    stand-alone server, which removes the domain but allows you to use the
    server in its current role of file and print server. You just have to hassle
    with all the user permissions because of taking out the DC role.

    HUGE mistake, in my opinion. Most people move the other direction, from
    workgroup to domain, to ease their management.

    Gregg Hill
    Gregg Hill, Aug 4, 2006
  5. C-A Berseth

    C-A Berseth Guest

    Hi Gregg,

    I agree with your comment "HUGE mistake" but I don't have the choice. We
    need to move from our own
    office into an environment having domains (sorry not to be more explicit -
    business reasons) where the people
    will not let us have our own domain inside.
    You proposal to remove the domain function from the server but keep it as
    file & print server might be the best
    move. Keeping the RAID drives and tape backup is the most vital function of
    that machine. De-centralized user
    management will be a hassle of course, but no more than that.
    As for the 10-connection limit, many thanks for pointing at this one. Anyway
    I think we would always be below, as some
    of the PCs are lab machines and are used only part-time.

    C-A Berseth, Aug 4, 2006
  6. C-A Berseth

    Gregg Hill Guest

    If your server and PCs are going to be on their network and their server
    will be doing DHCP, why not place your server into their domain? Or is that
    not allowed?

    I would keep the server, but make it a stand-alone, at the least. Or add it
    to their domain if they will let you do so, and let them handle the user
    accounts if your PCs will be accessing any of their resources.

    Gregg Hill
    Gregg Hill, Aug 4, 2006
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